The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

[BarneyFife]

Aside from court assigned judges. God is the ultimate judge. The grotesque images they’ve happened before there’s been people that burned people live on steaks because they did not believe or agree with another group of people. There’s also but of course, fetuses taken out of vaginas in thrown into the red waste basket.

There have been people who’ve gotten so mad that they decided to go buy a gun and then returned to the house. They lived out and were provided with and killed their whole family over something completely fricken stupid; because of anger in darkness and hatred in murder, that comes from the heart.

If they still have the death penalty here in America, people can go and sit in a little room and watch a criminal be put to death still, I believe anyway, I know what happened a lot in the movies and surely that was a real thing that was in real life.

Considering you know, hangings were people would watch people be hung. None of this stuff is new man it’s realistic to be realistic.


What is the point sugarcoating anything?

Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things. (Philippians 4:8)

 

[MatthewG]

Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things. (Philippians 4:8)

No doubt, but reality existence of the darkness and hatred in and violence in everything of those things.

You don’t live in a fairytale land.

The subject is about abortion and adoption. Some people don’t even know what a dead fetus looks like they need to know so they understand what the fook is going on.

 

[Jim B]

Aside from court assigned judges. God is the ultimate judge. The grotesque images they’ve happened before there’s been people that burned people live on steaks because they did not believe or agree with another group of people. There’s also but of course, fetuses taken out of vaginas in thrown into the red waste basket.

There have been people who’ve gotten so mad that they decided to go buy a gun and then returned to the house. They lived out and were provided with and killed their whole family over something completely fricken stupid; because of anger in darkness and hatred in murder, that comes from the heart.

If they still have the death penalty here in America, people can go and sit in a little room and watch a criminal be put to death still, I believe anyway, I know what happened a lot in the movies and surely that was a real thing that was in real life.

Considering you know, hangings were people would watch people be hung. None of this stuff is new man it’s realistic to be realistic.


What is the point sugarcoating anything?

You are completely insane!

BTW, people are burned live on steaks, as that would be some barbecue! LOL!

Your second paragraph is total madness.

 

[Jim B]

Why are you posting an image of a miscarriage?

He knows not what he doeth! I wouldn't want to be at his barbecue. (See my post immediately above.)

 

[MatthewG]

You are completely insane!

BTW, people are burned live on steaks, as that would be some barbecue! LOL!

Your second paragraph is total madness.

Thank God for freedom of speech man imagine if it was taken away.

Thank you for letting me know that the writing is good @Jim B .

 

[MatthewG]

You are completely insane!

BTW, people are burned live on steaks, as that would be some barbecue! LOL!

Your second paragraph is total madness.

Nero the emperor would have Christian’s tied up and burned for his night parties. They would be his night lights. Up on stakes.

 

[BarneyFife]

No doubt, but reality existence of the darkness and hatred in and violence in everything of those things.

You don’t live in a fairytale land.

The subject is about abortion and adoption. Some people don’t even know what a dead fetus looks like they need to know so they understand what the fook is going on.

Are you having a lot of success with with your style of expression?

I only ask because I'm pretty tolerant and fairly open-minded and I'm having trouble taking you seriously.

The utterance of vulgarities seems counterintuitive to advancing Christian principles.

Frankly, I can hardly believe this type of thing is allowed to continue.

Perhaps I'm just too old or naive to understand.

 

[MatthewG]

Are you having a lot of success with with your style of expression?

I only ask because I'm pretty tolerant and fairly open-minded and I'm having trouble taking you seriously.

The utterance of vulgarities seems counterintuitive to advancing Christian principles.

Frankly, I can hardly believe this type of thing is allowed to continue.

Perhaps I'm just too old or naive to understand.

Success is not what it is about.

It’s unfortunate that through out the Bible there is history of violence and death, through out the generations, and it offends you to bring truth forward?

What about Jesus having been beaten, put a crown of thorns on him, stripped naked, and then afterwards being clothed back up placed on the cross with nails in hands?

Maybe that part should be cut out, and replaced with something more wholesome.

If the decision by the person is simply to ignore all the bad, horrible parts only accept all the good parts… that would be living in a delusional state of mind wouldn’t it, @BarneyFife?

The subject with discussion with me and others went several different ways, and the main subject was about abortion and adoption.

 

[BarneyFife]

Success is not what it is about.

It’s unfortunate that through out the Bible there is history of violence and death, through out the generations, and it offends you to bring truth forward?

What about Jesus having been beaten, put a crown of thorns on him, stripped naked, and then afterwards being clothed back up placed on the cross with nails in hands?

Maybe that part should be cut out, and replaced with something more wholesome.

If the decision by the person is simply to ignore all the bad, horrible parts only accept all the good parts… that would be living in a delusional state of mind wouldn’t it, @BarneyFife?

The subject with discussion with me and others went several different ways, and the main subject was about abortion and adoption.

I'm afraid I'm no match for your imagination.

 

[MatthewG]

Reality or non-fiction. Fiction or imagination?

Truth is that violence exist, and abortion of a fetus that is growing into a human is indirect murder, but the decision is implemented on the individual to decide just like getting fried off of drugs, or go buying hookers out in the street, whatever it is all of it is there in the world.

To deny the fact of the existence is foolishness even leaving the ability to forget who the man in the mirror is.

When I see myself there is a reflection that which is seen there and it is the fleshly me not the real me caged in this flesh that I make the choice to direct.

Be it a crime, or an encouragement for someone to not abort but to keep and put forth up to the state, how hard are the choices which are laid in front of us to make.

Most likely difficult if I guessed myself.

 

[BarneyFife]

indirect murder

Very imaginative

Never heard of it.

 

[Gottservant]

The point is that most abortions could simply be adopted. The number of abortions where the life of the mother is at stake, is very limited.

The right to adopt, doesn't apply when the mother's life is at risk, but is secondary to the mother's decision. If I was being punitive, I might say "the mother who aborts, has no right to adopt", but I am not being punitive - simply sensibly minded.

As it stands, what I am saying is "moral", the fact that there are cases where it does not apply, does not make it less than moral. We should all be asking the question "can I afford to adopt?"

 

[BarneyFife]

The point is that most abortions could simply be adopted. The number of abortions where the life of the mother is at stake, is very limited.

The right to adopt, doesn't apply when the mother's life is at risk, but is secondary to the mother's decision. If I was being punitive, I might say "the mother who aborts, has no right to adopt", but I am not being punitive - simply sensibly minded.

As it stands, what I am saying is "moral", the fact that there are cases where it does not apply, does not make it less than moral. We should all be asking the question "can I afford to adopt?"

Good point but the problem is that as long as there are laws in place that allow people to abort for convenience, there's nothing compelling the mother to carry the baby to term anyway, so that it could be adopted.

So I'm not sure that what you're suggesting is a solution if that is, in fact, what you're doing.

But, yeah, I don't understand why the "mother's life is at stake" argument gets so much airtime. It's old and tired and, frankly, quite annoyingly stupid for the purpose of a serious conversation.

But, most democratic constitutions seem to provide the right to extremely verbose stupidity so, as they say:

"Whaddya gonna do in a small town without a Sheriff?"

 

[Jim B]

The point is that most abortions could simply be adopted. The number of abortions where the life of the mother is at stake, is very limited.

The right to adopt, doesn't apply when the mother's life is at risk, but is secondary to the mother's decision. If I was being punitive, I might say "the mother who aborts, has no right to adopt", but I am not being punitive - simply sensibly minded.

As it stands, what I am saying is "moral", the fact that there are cases where it does not apply, does not make it less than moral. We should all be asking the question "can I afford to adopt?"

No, what you are saying is wrong. Many abortions are performed because the fetus does not have the ability to survive on its own outside the womb. Do you want to adopt a dead baby?

 

[Naomanos]

But, yeah, I don't understand why the "mother's life is at stake" argument gets so much airtime. It's old and tired and, frankly, quite annoyingly stupid for the purpose of a serious conversation.

It gets so much airtime because people need to always be reminded that not all abortions are for convenience. We have people who continually say no abortion for any reasons at all, ever. They need to be reminded that sometimes the mother's life is at risk and, why have two deaths when there only needs to be one?

 

[Jim B]

Many people have made abortion a strictly emotional issue, using phrases such as "abortion is murder". They have lost the ability to reason and to consider each situation individually. It's really sad that some people throw out the ability to reason and look at each situation individually "out the window". But of course, that is what the propagandists want.

 

[MatthewG]

I personally don’t care what an individual does with their life.

It’s all up to you, and some people have abortions.

No one will live in a perfect social world; and if you think something is wrong; it may not be wrong to the other individual.

Everyone has subjective lives and no one is bound by any other rules but what the governments and the states of approve of.

Can’t we just be thankful for the doctors out there, aborting children being born in the womb? Or the caddy shack trailer park daddy, just uses a coat hanger or something?

Oh how evil we as human beings are.

Social ills you will never correct, nor will they ever be corrected though only fought against, and thankful for the Law enforcement and the government and the states regulations to be guided under.

 

[Gottservant]

No, what you are saying is wrong. Many abortions are performed because the fetus does not have the ability to survive on its own outside the womb. Do you want to adopt a dead baby?

I'm saying adoption should always be in mind.

Can you fault that? Is my wanting babies to live, a problem to you?

 

[Nhisname]

Is this supposed to mean somethin

Aside from court assigned judges. God is the ultimate judge. The grotesque images they’ve happened before there’s been people that burned people live on steaks because they did not believe or agree with another group of people. There’s also but of course, fetuses taken out of vaginas in thrown into the red waste basket.

There have been people who’ve gotten so mad that they decided to go buy a gun and then returned to the house. They lived out and were provided with and killed their whole family over something completely fricken stupid; because of anger in darkness and hatred in murder, that comes from the heart.

If they still have the death penalty here in America, people can go and sit in a little room and watch a criminal be put to death still, I believe anyway, I know what happened a lot in the movies and surely that was a real thing that was in real life.

Considering you know, hangings were people would watch people be hung. None of this stuff is new man it’s realistic to be realistic.


What is the point sugarcoating anything?

"Reply doesn't seem to be working correctly, so...

Nhisname wrote "
I love this "hysteria"...
psalm 139 and following
14 All children are fearfully and wonderfully made in the image of God. 16 Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your Book(the book of life) were written every one of the days that were formed for me when as yet there was none of then. God has every baby before it is formed on the womb it's life planned in the book of life. Before it ever takes breath it is planned by God. No one has the right to destroy was God has ordained. Abortion is intentional and a pre meditated ,ending of a life. It seems I say this so much but it's true...these Dr's are influencing these young women who are scared and are told exactly what you just mentioned in the definition of an abortion making it sound like it's no more than having a monthly period. To the MDs these women are only a source of income, a good source of income. Plain and simple. This baby certainly is being sacrificed for the good of who? Back in Biblical times were certain gods that stupid ppl used to sacrifice their babies and children for a better life...I don't think it worked...the only difference today is women dont wait until it's born how sad same sacrifices, for a better life? I don't think so."

Quoting part of a Psalm to prove doctrine will invariably get you in trouble.

Interesting that you omitted verse 15...
My frame was not hidden from you,
when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth.

So fetuses (literally "frames" aren't formed in the womb, but "intricately woven in the depths of the earth". It's obvious that you don't understand either imagery or exegesis. If, as you claim, "before it ever takes breath it is planned by God" then malformed fetuses that have zero chance of surviving outside the womb are planned by God! Do you really think that God forms babies without functioning heart or lungs or kidneys? Really???

Your accusation of doctors and others who terminate pregnancies is clearly wrong. You are incorrectly applying a universal standard to individual situations. In other words, you aren't thinking! And then you go completely "off the rails"! You can't equate sacrificing children and babies to "gods" with modern medicine. After you have seen a newborn die a horrible death because a pregnancy wasn't terminated you might think differently about this subject. But maybe not!

I do believe our lives are planned before birth, before we are formed. I believe everyone born serves a purpose whether they are born with the correct body parts that function or not we also live in a fallen world which I know our heavenly Father takes that in account. If you believe in God you will let his design be born to fulfill his or her own purpose.
Many women are sacrificing their babies life in order to live an easier one for themselves. You can't deny that. Why not put the little one up for adoption?

 

[Jack]

I'm saying adoption should always be in mind.

Can you fault that? Is my wanting babies to live, a problem to you?

Why are Liberals obsessed with killing babies? It's Satanic!