Zao is life
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In Revelation 18:2 Babylon is the hold of every foul spirit and cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Wherever in time you place Babylon, it has to contain Satan because Satan is foul and unclean.
If Premil has Babylon being no more by the time Christ returns then sometime prior to the second coming Satan is in Babylon. I’m just wondering if Satan can still deceive the nations while he’s in Babylon.
And one of the seven angels who had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues came to me and talked with me, saying,
And one of the seven angels who had the seven vials came and talked with me, saying to me,
Come here, I will show you the bride, the Lamb's wife.
Come here, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot sitting on many waters. ( (Revelation 21:9 & Revelation 17:1).
New Jerusalem is a city of gold, precious stones and pearls (Revelation 21:10-11 & 18-21).
The harlot is "..gilded with gold, precious stones and pearls,having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her FORNICATION" (Revelation 17:4).
The history of God's elect people and the writings of the prophets are full of examples where the unfaithful and the group of unfaithful running around in-between the faithful among the elect nation, are called a harlot by God.
We are now talking about the faithful church and the unfaithful part of the church - New Jerusalem vs. the harlot, a.k.a Babylon the Great.
The hold of every foul spirit and cage of every unclean and hateful bird is talking about the doctrines and practices of the part of the church that God considers a harlot.
It has nothing to do with either the place where angels who sinned are held in chains of darkness, or with the abyss where Satan will be bound.
Nor just because the ancient city of Babylon that sat on many waters ("catholic") is a symbol for this harlot that sits on many waters (catholic), does the unfaithful 'city' that sits on many waters have anything to do with the abyss where Satan will be bound.
And one of the seven angels who had the seven vials came and talked with me, saying to me,
Come here, I will show you the bride, the Lamb's wife.
Come here, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot sitting on many waters. ( (Revelation 21:9 & Revelation 17:1).
New Jerusalem is a city of gold, precious stones and pearls (Revelation 21:10-11 & 18-21).
The harlot is "..gilded with gold, precious stones and pearls,having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her FORNICATION" (Revelation 17:4).
The history of God's elect people and the writings of the prophets are full of examples where the unfaithful and the group of unfaithful running around in-between the faithful among the elect nation, are called a harlot by God.
We are now talking about the faithful church and the unfaithful part of the church - New Jerusalem vs. the harlot, a.k.a Babylon the Great.
The hold of every foul spirit and cage of every unclean and hateful bird is talking about the doctrines and practices of the part of the church that God considers a harlot.
It has nothing to do with either the place where angels who sinned are held in chains of darkness, or with the abyss where Satan will be bound.
Nor just because the ancient city of Babylon that sat on many waters ("catholic") is a symbol for this harlot that sits on many waters (catholic), does the unfaithful 'city' that sits on many waters have anything to do with the abyss where Satan will be bound.
You're conflating things that have nothing to do with one another, except that the harlot no doubt makes Satan a happy devil because she does exactly what he would want her to do, and teaches the saints exactly the kind of confusion and false doctrine he would want her to do.
But the devil's 10 kings are going to hate the harlot , eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
She goes down long before the devil does.