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BreadOfLife

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that sunburst monstrance you use is the mark of the sungod Baal.
THANK YOU for constantly exhibiting your abject ignorance.
It makes exposing your rubbish SOOOOOO much easier . . .

Monstrances have different designs.
Some attempt to depict God's shining glory . . .
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While others depict a more subtle reference to the cross . . .
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And some depict more of a Tabernacle setting . . .
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In short - do your homework and stop embarrassing yourself . . .
 

BreadOfLife

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The infallible word phenomenon ended with the NT scriptures.
The rest is hearsay.
The Pope is hearsay and doublespeak.
Really?

Can you show me whee the BIBLE makes this claim, my Sola Scripturist friend?
Chapter and Verse, please . . .

PS - while you're at it - please explain the meaning of the following Scriptures:

Matt 16:19
I will give YOU the keys to the kingdom of heaven. WHATEVER YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Matt. 18:18
Amen, I say to you, WHATEVER YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

John 20:23
Whose sins YOU FORGIVE are forgiven them, and whose sins YOU RETAIN are retained.”
 

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BreadofSatanslife: eat that cake you baked for the queen of heaven -Ishtar.
You have put the incense to your nose until you can understand nothing!
No Catholic will enter teh kingdom of heaven that Jesus will set up on Earth. Popey will lead you all into the fires of Armageddon - just as so many evil priests and nuns have burned children's fingers in candle flames!
Read this: Matthew 16:19 KJV: And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Matthew 16:19 Commentaries: "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven."
 
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BreadofSatanslife: eat that cake you baked for the queen of heaven -Ishtar.
You have put the incense to your nose until you can understand nothing!
Read this: Matthew 16:19 KJV: And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
More of the "Gospel according to Ellen G. White" . . .

TRANSLATION:
"Since you have completely obliterated my "Ball-Monstrance" nonsense - I have nothing more to add."

That's pretty much what I thought, my ignorant SDA friend . . .
 

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THANK YOU for constantly exhibiting your abject ignorance.
It makes exposing your rubbish SOOOOOO much easier . . .

Monstrances have different designs.
Some attempt to depict God's shining glory . . .
10-436_7_9_2010_11_42_05_am.jpg


While others depict a more subtle reference to the cross . . .
xcustodia-con-forma-de-cruz-niquelada-con-viril-11.jpg.pagespeed.ic.Jtc0fYz3tA.jpg



And some depict more of a Tabernacle setting . . .
TS688-edited.jpg



In short - do your homework and stop embarrassing yourself . . .
 

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no manmade object intended to hold cakes baked for the Babylonian queen of heaven can have the glory of GOD.

Moses commanded the golden calf be melted down and the idolaters dancing and whoring around it be made to drink the liquid gold.

The same will happen to you and your catholic idols!

you should not even be on a CHRISTIAN FORUM!
 

BreadOfLife

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no manmade object intended to hold cakes baked for the Babylonian queen of heaven can have the glory of GOD.
Moses commanded the golden calf be melted down and the idolaters dancing and whoring around it be made to drink the liquid gold.
The same will happen to you and your catholic idols!
you should not even be on a CHRISTIAN FORUM!
Another woefully-ignorant response from a person who forgets that God commanded Moses to fashion TWO GOLDEN CHERUBS to place atop the Ark of the Covenant, which was the Mercy Seat of God (Exod 25:18).

Your impotent attacks have become increasingly embarrassing . . .
 

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Really?

Can you show me whee the BIBLE makes this claim, my Sola Scripturist friend?
Chapter and Verse, please . . .

PS - while you're at it - please explain the meaning of the following Scriptures:

Matt 16:19
I will give YOU the keys to the kingdom of heaven. WHATEVER YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Matt. 18:18
Amen, I say to you, WHATEVER YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

John 20:23
Whose sins YOU FORGIVE are forgiven them, and whose sins YOU RETAIN are retained.”

Better question...

Can you show me by who's authority other than Peter's, exclaiming we can ignore the Bible scriptures and follow extra Biblical decrees to be saved?
 

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Wrong, Einstein.
ALL true Christians - Catholic AND Protestant have heeded Acts 2:39 - as well as Matt. 28:19.

As I schooled you before - Jesus NEVER said to Baptize in the specific name of the Father, the specific name of the Son and the specific name of the Holy Spirit.
Peter NEVER said to be Baptized in the specific name of Jesus Christ only.

CONTEXT, my woefully-ignorant friend . . . CONTEXT . . .
So, what is that name?

Are Father, Son and Holy Ghost that name?

Is the name of the son, "son"?

Is your name "son" too?

Is that name on your drivers license?

I am a son, so we share the same name, along with countless billions of others?
 

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Better question...

Can you show me by who's authority other than Peter's, exclaiming we can ignore the Bible scriptures and follow extra Biblical decrees to be saved?
YOU first.
I asked YOU a question based on YOUR claim: "The infallible word phenomenon ended with the NT scriptures."

Can you show me where the BIBLE makes this claim, my Sola Scripturist friend?
Chapter and Verse, please . . .

PS - while you're at it - please explain the meaning of the following Scriptures:

Matt 16:19
I will give YOU the keys to the kingdom of heaven. WHATEVER YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Matt. 18:18
Amen, I say to you, WHATEVER YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

John 20:23
Whose sins YOU FORGIVE are forgiven them, and whose sins YOU RETAIN are retained.”


I'll be more than happy to answer YOUR question when YOU have answered mine.
 
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So, what is that name?
Are Father, Son and Holy Ghost that name?
Is the name of the son, "son"?
Is your name "son" too?
Is that name on your drivers license?
I am a son, so we share the same name, along with countless billions of others?
According to Scripture - God's name is "I AM who AM" or "YHVH".

Does YOUR sect baptize in the name of "I AM who AM" or "YHVH"??
 

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YOU first.
I asked YOU a question based on YOUR claim: "The infallible word phenomenon ended with the NT scriptures."

Can you show me where the BIBLE makes this claim, my Sola Scripturist friend?
Chapter and Verse, please . . .

PS - while you're at it - please explain the meaning of the following Scriptures:

Matt 16:19
I will give YOU the keys to the kingdom of heaven. WHATEVER YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Matt. 18:18
Amen, I say to you, WHATEVER YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

John 20:23
Whose sins YOU FORGIVE are forgiven them, and whose sins YOU RETAIN are retained.”


I'll be more than happy to answer YOUR question when YOU have answered mine.
I noticed Jesus told Peter that.

Where in the passage does it include anyone else?
 

BreadOfLife

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I noticed Jesus told Peter that.
Where in the passage does it include anyone else?
Jesus spoke to Peter alone in Matt. 16:18-19 - but He was speaking to ALL of the Apostles in Matt. 18:18 and John 20:21-23.
And BECAUSE of the Authority He gave them in those verses - THEY had the Authority to pass it on to their successors.

Jesus NEVER said: "WHATEVER YOU BIND or LOOSE on earth will be bound and loosed in Heaven - but only for ONE generation."

There was NO expiration date on these promises.
 

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The son's name is "I Am"?
Try again....
Pay attention, Einstein:
If Jesus said to Baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit - why don't YOU baptize in the name of "I AM who AM/YHVH, and of Jesus and of the Holy Spirit??
 

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The son's name is "I Am"?

Try again....
By the way - Jesus revealed himself as God in John 8:58 when he said "Before Abraham was, I AM."

Sooooo, why don't YOU baptize in the name of "I AM"??
 

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By the way - Jesus revealed himself as God in John 8:58 when he said "Before Abraham was, I AM."

Sooooo, why don't YOU baptize in the name of "I AM"??
No, that was the Father speaking through His son.
The name of the son according to Matthew 1 is Jesus.
I baptize in the son’s name...Jesus.
Do you say the name of the son or do you parrot the title of the son when baptizing?
 

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Pay attention, Einstein:
If Jesus said to Baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit - why don't YOU baptize in the name of "I AM who AM/YHVH, and of Jesus and of the Holy Spirit??
Do you think the name of Jesus Christ is I Am?
 

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Jesus spoke to Peter alone in Matt. 16:18-19 - but He was speaking to ALL of the Apostles in Matt. 18:18 and John 20:21-23.
And BECAUSE of the Authority He gave them in those verses - THEY had the Authority to pass it on to their successors.

Jesus NEVER said: "WHATEVER YOU BIND or LOOSE on earth will be bound and loosed in Heaven - but only for ONE generation."

There was NO expiration date on these promises.
Oh I see now.

Any Christian from any belief system can bind and loose with Peters promise.

That was a universal command to all Christians in the disguise of a lone promise to Peter.

Also, all Christians get a set of keys to the kingdom like Peter to start their own Pentecost.

You just reduced Jesus’ promise and Peter to nothing, Roman Catholic.