Why I read/study God's Word: The Authorized Version

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Grace And Peace, Precious friend(s). I believe it is a very serious matter
to determine Which version of “the Bible” Is “The Correct Word Of God!”

I am sure we All agree, do we not, that we are All going to each give an
"account To HIM,"
(2 Corinthians 5:10), According to His Gospel of Grace,
To
Paul (Romans 2:16), correct?

Thus, in Light of Paul's "...knowing therefore The Terror Of The LORD..." {v. 11},
to me, I humbly present why I personally believe KJV Is “The Best Bible” to read/study:

(1) Q: Is IT not God’s Pure And PRESERVED WORD!?:

The WORDS Of The LORD Are Pure WORDS: as silver tried
in a furnace of earth, Purified Seven Times. Thou Shalt Keep THEM,
O LORD, Thou Shalt PRESERVE THEM from this generation for ever.”

(Psalms 12:6-7 KJB!)

Now, Comparing This, with a couple of newer versions, what do we find?

NASB: “The words of the Lord are pure words…You, Lord, will keep them;
You will protect him from this generation forever.

NIV: “The words of the Lord are flawless…You, Lord, will keep the needy
safe
and will protect us forever from the wicked,...

Do these Also claim God’s “Purity And Preservation for ALL generations”?

They both claim “pure/flawless” words, but, then they both
Omit Some Of: “Preserve THEM from this generation for ever” and
Change words TO the noted “Different” words above. How is that Purity?

Q: Will The Holy Spirit, our Blessed Teacher, Help us understand
The Purity of These Words,” considering these newer versions
have Changed Them? How, then, do we “study AND agree”?

{Diligent/Noble Berean students can find MANY of These Changes
{And, Also “omissions”}, and Prayerfully/Carefully decide for themselves
about the “Purity of God’s Words,” and which version is best, for them,
correct?}

(2) I personally have decided on Both “The Purity And The
Preservation Of The Authorized Version/underlying manuscripts,”

for the following reasons:

Q2: Is The Following the “Reason” why the newer versions Cannot claim:

God’s Promise To “Preserve HIS Pure Word for ALL generations”?

Since the newer versions did not appear until about 1880,
would not that be a “Lack Of Preservation,” due to the fact
that the underlying {older/better?} manuscripts had to be
“Re-discovered/translated,” Skipping the generations since 1611?

Can that be God’s Purpose For HIS Pure/Preserved Word?
+
(3) God's Pure/Preserved Word Is ABOVE All Else! Is IT not?:

"I will worship toward Thy holy temple, and praise Thy HOLY
Name for Thy LovingKindness and for Thy TRUTH: for Thou
Hast MAGNIFIED Thy WORD Above All Thy Name!
"
( Psalms 138:2 KJB! )

imho, unless I am mistaken, on Judgment Day, I would Not want
one of the "good deeds done in my body," to be “Bad, by my claiming”
that corrupt/Changed/Missing words {translated from older/hidden
{UNpreserved} manuscripts into “newer easier-to-read/understand
versions,” are to be:

God's Pure Word, Which Is Magnified Above All Of God’s Pure/Holy Name,”

would you, Precious friend(s)?
Finally:

IF it is true that “Many {~~ 2,800?} Of “God’s PURE Words”
are missing {ie: Acts 8:37 NASB et al?} from newer versions, then,
IF the “version user” Cannot read Them {because They are missing},
how is it possible then, for that one to obey God’s Exhortation:

“man Shall Not live by bread alone, But By EVERY Word
That Proceedeth Out Of The Mouth Of God!

(Matthew 4:4 cp Luke 4:4; Deuteronomy 8:3 KJB!)?

Just wondering: How can God's "children of light" be in agreement
when each uses a Different Problematic version?: Are we not all,
By A Faithful God:

"...Called Into Fellowship With God's SON, The LORD JESUS CHRIST"
(
1 Corinthians 1:9 KJB!), And, should we not all be:

"Endeavouring to keep The Unity Of God's Spirit In The Bond Of
PEACE!..." (
Ephesians 4:3 KJB!), obeying God's Exhortations!:

...speak...the things which become Sound Doctrine!”
(
Titus 2:1 cp "SAME mind And judgment!" 1 Corinthians 1:10 KJB!)?

Being faithful And Pleasing to our LORD and Saviour, JESUS CHRIST, Correct?

--------------------------------------------

Addendum: Some do Not like archaic words in God’s Preserved Word,
but isn’t that Why God Commands us to “study”? I.e.:

“...we which are alive and remain unto the coming of The LORD shall not
prevent [precede] them which are asleep…” (1 Thessalonians 4:15 KJB!)

Once I “studied & found the meaning,” have never had any problem since. Amen?
+
I would also, when Prayerfully/Carefully “studying, like to know," When "God Is
Addressing"
one person {singular: thee, thine, & thou}, or More than one person
{plural: ye/you/your}. Could make a Huge Difference in His Pure Words, correct?

Since newer versions have Totally Lost these distinctions, considering
“you/your” Could be Either singular OR plural, causing Confusion, of
which
God Is Not the author of,” (1 Corinthians 14:33 KJB!), correct,
Precious friend(s)?

Conclusion: Besides changing God’s PURE Words, is there not Also
HIS “Command NOT to Add, Nor To Take Away From HIS Word!”?
(
Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32; Proverbs 30:5-6; Revelation 22:18-19 KJB!)

So, yes, I sincerely believe This Is “A Very Serious And Important”
decision Of faith to be made! After all, "a corrupt {#} version Will
Cause a corrupt faith,” correct? Since God’s PURE Word Teaches:

...faith cometh by hearing, and hearing By The WORD Of God!”
(
Romans 10:17 KJB!)

Be Blessed!

{#} Corruption had Already Begun in "Paul's day," thus it should not
surprise us, that it very well Could be in our midst, today, correct?:

"For we are not as many, which corrupt The Word Of God: but as
of sincerity, but as of God, in The Sight Of God speak we in CHRIST."
(2 Corinthians 2:17 KJB!)

Precious friend(s), instead of All of the Mass Confusion, is not
God's Simple Will Much Better? To be continued in (2) below...

what is the authorized version and who authorized it?
 

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Opps, this scripture does not exist in many modern versions based on the Greek alexandrian text.
Are "you" (KJV advocates) really arguing that it is (evil/bad/wrong) to move a verse from the body of Biblical Text to a footnote just because it never appeared in the original manuscripts written by the Apostles and was added by a later scribe for clarification? Verses are not removed because the translator "prefers" one version of Ancient Greek over another or one family of manuscripts over another. That is not how "textural criticism" works. A verse is examined based on linguistics and thousands of new manuscripts uncovered since the previous translations were made and the preponderance of the evidence indicates that some verse was originally:
  • included in the earliest manuscripts.
  • not included in the earliest manuscripts.
  • included in the earliest manuscripts in a different location.
The Translators then choose where to include the text and where to place a footnote explaining that the text is not found in the oldest manuscripts, usually by accurately stating something like "[some mss. add: ...]" in a footnote. No words have been LOST. Truth about what most likely appeared in the original autographs and what has been added to those autographs is added to the text. I prefer to know which verses appear in only SOME manuscripts and which verses (all the rest) appear in virtually ALL manuscripts.

The strength of the KJV is the ability to distinguish between "you" (singular) and "you" (plural) with the archaic "thee, thine, thou, ye". The lack of access to more recent manuscript discoveries is NOT an advantage of the KJV over newer translations.

[EDIT: Sorry for the thread necromancy. I followed a link to here and didn't notice the dates. :oops: ]
 

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Grace And Peace, Precious friend(s). I believe it is a very serious matter
to determine Which version of “the Bible” Is “The Correct Word Of God!”

I am sure we All agree, do we not, that we are All going to each give an
"account To HIM,"
(2 Corinthians 5:10), According to His Gospel of Grace,
To
Paul (Romans 2:16), correct?

Thus, in Light of Paul's "...knowing therefore The Terror Of The LORD..." {v. 11},
to me, I humbly present why I personally believe KJV Is “The Best Bible” to read/study:

(1) Q: Is IT not God’s Pure And PRESERVED WORD!?:

The WORDS Of The LORD Are Pure WORDS: as silver tried
in a furnace of earth, Purified Seven Times. Thou Shalt Keep THEM,
O LORD, Thou Shalt PRESERVE THEM from this generation for ever.”

(Psalms 12:6-7 KJB!)

Now, Comparing This, with a couple of newer versions, what do we find?

NASB: “The words of the Lord are pure words…You, Lord, will keep them;
You will protect him from this generation forever.

NIV: “The words of the Lord are flawless…You, Lord, will keep the needy
safe
and will protect us forever from the wicked,...

Do these Also claim God’s “Purity And Preservation for ALL generations”?

They both claim “pure/flawless” words, but, then they both
Omit Some Of: “Preserve THEM from this generation for ever” and
Change words TO the noted “Different” words above. How is that Purity?

Q: Will The Holy Spirit, our Blessed Teacher, Help us understand
The Purity of These Words,” considering these newer versions
have Changed Them? How, then, do we “study AND agree”?

{Diligent/Noble Berean students can find MANY of These Changes
{And, Also “omissions”}, and Prayerfully/Carefully decide for themselves
about the “Purity of God’s Words,” and which version is best, for them,
correct?}

(2) I personally have decided on Both “The Purity And The
Preservation Of The Authorized Version/underlying manuscripts,”

for the following reasons:

Q2: Is The Following the “Reason” why the newer versions Cannot claim:

God’s Promise To “Preserve HIS Pure Word for ALL generations”?

Since the newer versions did not appear until about 1880,
would not that be a “Lack Of Preservation,” due to the fact
that the underlying {older/better?} manuscripts had to be
“Re-discovered/translated,” Skipping the generations since 1611?

Can that be God’s Purpose For HIS Pure/Preserved Word?
+
(3) God's Pure/Preserved Word Is ABOVE All Else! Is IT not?:

"I will worship toward Thy holy temple, and praise Thy HOLY
Name for Thy LovingKindness and for Thy TRUTH: for Thou
Hast MAGNIFIED Thy WORD Above All Thy Name!
"
( Psalms 138:2 KJB! )

imho, unless I am mistaken, on Judgment Day, I would Not want
one of the "good deeds done in my body," to be “Bad, by my claiming”
that corrupt/Changed/Missing words {translated from older/hidden
{UNpreserved} manuscripts into “newer easier-to-read/understand
versions,” are to be:

God's Pure Word, Which Is Magnified Above All Of God’s Pure/Holy Name,”

would you, Precious friend(s)?
Finally:

IF it is true that “Many {~~ 2,800?} Of “God’s PURE Words”
are missing {ie: Acts 8:37 NASB et al?} from newer versions, then,
IF the “version user” Cannot read Them {because They are missing},
how is it possible then, for that one to obey God’s Exhortation:

“man Shall Not live by bread alone, But By EVERY Word
That Proceedeth Out Of The Mouth Of God!

(Matthew 4:4 cp Luke 4:4; Deuteronomy 8:3 KJB!)?

Just wondering: How can God's "children of light" be in agreement
when each uses a Different Problematic version?: Are we not all,
By A Faithful God:

"...Called Into Fellowship With God's SON, The LORD JESUS CHRIST"
(
1 Corinthians 1:9 KJB!), And, should we not all be:

"Endeavouring to keep The Unity Of God's Spirit In The Bond Of
PEACE!..." (
Ephesians 4:3 KJB!), obeying God's Exhortations!:

...speak...the things which become Sound Doctrine!”
(
Titus 2:1 cp "SAME mind And judgment!" 1 Corinthians 1:10 KJB!)?

Being faithful And Pleasing to our LORD and Saviour, JESUS CHRIST, Correct?

--------------------------------------------

Addendum: Some do Not like archaic words in God’s Preserved Word,
but isn’t that Why God Commands us to “study”? I.e.:

“...we which are alive and remain unto the coming of The LORD shall not
prevent [precede] them which are asleep…” (1 Thessalonians 4:15 KJB!)

Once I “studied & found the meaning,” have never had any problem since. Amen?
+
I would also, when Prayerfully/Carefully “studying, like to know," When "God Is
Addressing"
one person {singular: thee, thine, & thou}, or More than one person
{plural: ye/you/your}. Could make a Huge Difference in His Pure Words, correct?

Since newer versions have Totally Lost these distinctions, considering
“you/your” Could be Either singular OR plural, causing Confusion, of
which
God Is Not the author of,” (1 Corinthians 14:33 KJB!), correct,
Precious friend(s)?

Conclusion: Besides changing God’s PURE Words, is there not Also
HIS “Command NOT to Add, Nor To Take Away From HIS Word!”?
(
Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32; Proverbs 30:5-6; Revelation 22:18-19 KJB!)

So, yes, I sincerely believe This Is “A Very Serious And Important”
decision Of faith to be made! After all, "a corrupt {#} version Will
Cause a corrupt faith,” correct? Since God’s PURE Word Teaches:

...faith cometh by hearing, and hearing By The WORD Of God!”
(
Romans 10:17 KJB!)

Be Blessed!

{#} Corruption had Already Begun in "Paul's day," thus it should not
surprise us, that it very well Could be in our midst, today, correct?:

"For we are not as many, which corrupt The Word Of God: but as
of sincerity, but as of God, in The Sight Of God speak we in CHRIST."
(2 Corinthians 2:17 KJB!)

Precious friend(s), instead of All of the Mass Confusion, is not
God's Simple Will Much Better? To be continued in (2) below...

I've been here for a short while. When you post your favorite Bible version is the KJV you've opened a whole can of worms. Brave soul.

I think it's like anything else. If it is your personal preference and it serves you and you then serve God's purpose for you, Amen!

Let the outrage commence. :(
 

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Q: Is IT not God’s Pure And PRESERVED WORD!?:
I think the KJV is a beautiful version, yet in old English and errors exist. Errors exist in all versions. God's Word is in three languages, Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic - not English. Translators from the 17th century were no more spirit filled and certainly not more educated then translators today. We have discovered more manuscripts from which to work with.
I use about a half dozen versions or more. Ruth Graham said, "I have about twenty different versions and they all say the same."
They Holy Spirit gives discernment, meaning much deeper than the literal words on the surface.
As a matter of fact, my first Bible was called, The Book. It was a paraphrased version, not even close to a literal version, yet I was saved by reading the words in it. The message and stories were there. When I finally found a church, of course and used different versions, but didn't feel quite comfortable with KJV. It took awhile before I got used to it.

Will The Holy Spirit, our Blessed Teacher, Help us understand
The Purity of These Words,” considering these newer versions
have Changed Them? How, then, do we “study AND agree”?
God's word (even paraphrased) can be spiritually discerned. The message is received and transformation takes place.

God’s Promise To “Preserve HIS Pure Word for ALL generations”?

Since the newer versions did not appear until about 1880,
would not that be a “Lack Of Preservation,” due to the fact
that the underlying {older/better?} manuscripts had to be
“Re-discovered/translated,” Skipping the generations since 1611?
His word was preserved for the fifteen century prior to the KJV in Greek. We have over 5k manuscripts.


Look as this KJV: "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." Romans 8:28
Think about it, do "all things work together for good"? Do they just fall into place by themselves, or does God cause them to work together for good?
Now look at NASB : And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.

Isn't that more understanding and to the point. Things just don't happen by themselves. I know that when reading KJV, it is implied that God does these works, but to a new believer, the other version is more precise.

You can go to Biblegateway.com and look at this verse and read 60 different versions. After you do that, you'll agree that a person new to the gospel can get God's word from any of them and believe.
 
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A God fearing scribe “added” words to the holy scriptures for clarification?

Impossible!

A heathen removing scriptures is more believable.

You believe what you want.
I believe that the current theory that a scribe made a note in a margin that a later copyist wrote within the body is perfectly valid as an explanation for why some manuscripts (mostly later) include words and phrases that are not found in other (mostly earlier) manuscripts. The existence of manuscripts with notes added to the margins and between lines of text certainly lends support to the plausibility of this theory.

In the end, it is just a theory. What modern bibles note in footnotes is FACT: some lines appear in some manuscripts and do not appear in others. This is true whether the translation chose to include the verse and add a footnote or exclude the verse from the body and place it in a footnote. It is not true for paraphrases or translations that do not use footnotes.

PS. Remember that “scribe” could have been someone that knew the original author and added a clarification that was needed in AD 150 that was not needed in AD 60 when most people still remembered the referenced events. So the “copies of copies” made before the clarification do not include it and the “copies of copies” made after the clarification do include it.

In at least one case, the original author may have revised the ending after it had been copied and circulated for a while, so one can hardly criticize a NT writer for revising his own manuscript to add more information 30 years later.
 
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I've been here for a short while. When you post your favorite Bible version is the KJV you've opened a whole can of worms. Brave soul.

I think it's like anything else. If it is your personal preference and it serves you and you then serve God's purpose for you, Amen!
@Abigail I do appreciate the King James. It's a translation, not the original, but I do myself appreciate it very much.
 
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Grace And Peace, Precious friend(s). I believe it is a very serious matter
to determine Which version of “the Bible” Is “The Correct Word Of God!”

I am sure we All agree, do we not, that we are All going to each give an
"account To HIM,"
(2 Corinthians 5:10), According to His Gospel of Grace,
To
Paul (Romans 2:16), correct?

Thus, in Light of Paul's "...knowing therefore The Terror Of The LORD..." {v. 11},
to me, I humbly present why I personally believe KJV Is “The Best Bible” to read/study:

(1) Q: Is IT not God’s Pure And PRESERVED WORD!?:

The WORDS Of The LORD Are Pure WORDS: as silver tried
in a furnace of earth, Purified Seven Times. Thou Shalt Keep THEM,
O LORD, Thou Shalt PRESERVE THEM from this generation for ever.”

(Psalms 12:6-7 KJB!)

Now, Comparing This, with a couple of newer versions, what do we find?

NASB: “The words of the Lord are pure words…You, Lord, will keep them;
You will protect him from this generation forever.

NIV: “The words of the Lord are flawless…You, Lord, will keep the needy
safe
and will protect us forever from the wicked,...

Do these Also claim God’s “Purity And Preservation for ALL generations”?

They both claim “pure/flawless” words, but, then they both
Omit Some Of: “Preserve THEM from this generation for ever” and
Change words TO the noted “Different” words above. How is that Purity?

Q: Will The Holy Spirit, our Blessed Teacher, Help us understand
The Purity of These Words,” considering these newer versions
have Changed Them? How, then, do we “study AND agree”?

{Diligent/Noble Berean students can find MANY of These Changes
{And, Also “omissions”}, and Prayerfully/Carefully decide for themselves
about the “Purity of God’s Words,” and which version is best, for them,
correct?}

(2) I personally have decided on Both “The Purity And The
Preservation Of The Authorized Version/underlying manuscripts,”

for the following reasons:

Q2: Is The Following the “Reason” why the newer versions Cannot claim:

God’s Promise To “Preserve HIS Pure Word for ALL generations”?

Since the newer versions did not appear until about 1880,
would not that be a “Lack Of Preservation,” due to the fact
that the underlying {older/better?} manuscripts had to be
“Re-discovered/translated,” Skipping the generations since 1611?

Can that be God’s Purpose For HIS Pure/Preserved Word?
+
(3) God's Pure/Preserved Word Is ABOVE All Else! Is IT not?:

"I will worship toward Thy holy temple, and praise Thy HOLY
Name for Thy LovingKindness and for Thy TRUTH: for Thou
Hast MAGNIFIED Thy WORD Above All Thy Name!
"
( Psalms 138:2 KJB! )

imho, unless I am mistaken, on Judgment Day, I would Not want
one of the "good deeds done in my body," to be “Bad, by my claiming”
that corrupt/Changed/Missing words {translated from older/hidden
{UNpreserved} manuscripts into “newer easier-to-read/understand
versions,” are to be:

God's Pure Word, Which Is Magnified Above All Of God’s Pure/Holy Name,”

would you, Precious friend(s)?
Finally:

IF it is true that “Many {~~ 2,800?} Of “God’s PURE Words”
are missing {ie: Acts 8:37 NASB et al?} from newer versions, then,
IF the “version user” Cannot read Them {because They are missing},
how is it possible then, for that one to obey God’s Exhortation:

“man Shall Not live by bread alone, But By EVERY Word
That Proceedeth Out Of The Mouth Of God!

(Matthew 4:4 cp Luke 4:4; Deuteronomy 8:3 KJB!)?

Just wondering: How can God's "children of light" be in agreement
when each uses a Different Problematic version?: Are we not all,
By A Faithful God:

"...Called Into Fellowship With God's SON, The LORD JESUS CHRIST"
(
1 Corinthians 1:9 KJB!), And, should we not all be:

"Endeavouring to keep The Unity Of God's Spirit In The Bond Of
PEACE!..." (
Ephesians 4:3 KJB!), obeying God's Exhortations!:

...speak...the things which become Sound Doctrine!”
(
Titus 2:1 cp "SAME mind And judgment!" 1 Corinthians 1:10 KJB!)?

Being faithful And Pleasing to our LORD and Saviour, JESUS CHRIST, Correct?

--------------------------------------------

Addendum: Some do Not like archaic words in God’s Preserved Word,
but isn’t that Why God Commands us to “study”? I.e.:

“...we which are alive and remain unto the coming of The LORD shall not
prevent [precede] them which are asleep…” (1 Thessalonians 4:15 KJB!)

Once I “studied & found the meaning,” have never had any problem since. Amen?
+
I would also, when Prayerfully/Carefully “studying, like to know," When "God Is
Addressing"
one person {singular: thee, thine, & thou}, or More than one person
{plural: ye/you/your}. Could make a Huge Difference in His Pure Words, correct?

Since newer versions have Totally Lost these distinctions, considering
“you/your” Could be Either singular OR plural, causing Confusion, of
which
God Is Not the author of,” (1 Corinthians 14:33 KJB!), correct,
Precious friend(s)?

Conclusion: Besides changing God’s PURE Words, is there not Also
HIS “Command NOT to Add, Nor To Take Away From HIS Word!”?
(
Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32; Proverbs 30:5-6; Revelation 22:18-19 KJB!)

So, yes, I sincerely believe This Is “A Very Serious And Important”
decision Of faith to be made! After all, "a corrupt {#} version Will
Cause a corrupt faith,” correct? Since God’s PURE Word Teaches:

...faith cometh by hearing, and hearing By The WORD Of God!”
(
Romans 10:17 KJB!)

Be Blessed!

{#} Corruption had Already Begun in "Paul's day," thus it should not
surprise us, that it very well Could be in our midst, today, correct?:

"For we are not as many, which corrupt The Word Of God: but as
of sincerity, but as of God, in The Sight Of God speak we in CHRIST."
(2 Corinthians 2:17 KJB!)

Precious friend(s), instead of All of the Mass Confusion, is not
God's Simple Will Much Better? To be continued in (2) below...
You do realize that Authorized Version means King Jimmy authorized it, and it’s not God’s authorized version, right?
 
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@Abigail I do appreciate the King James. It's a translation, not the original, but I do myself appreciate it very much.
I think MOST people appreciate it.
I also think that the few that seem to think that [begin hyperbole] the Apostle Paul read from HIS KJV BIBLE and that when we get to Heaven, God will speak in KJV English [end hyperbole] scare some of us into over-reacting when commenting on the KJV to try and balance the scale. ;)

[Lately I have begun to appreciate the translation accuracy of the ESV. It is much closer to a "word for word" literal translation of the Greek than I had originally realized.]
 

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A God fearing scribe “added” words to the holy scriptures for clarification?

Impossible!

A heathen removing scriptures is more believable.

You believe what you want.

the kjv boys deleted many books and some chapters like dan 13 the great faith story of blessed susana negating the word of God
 

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the kjv boys deleted many books and some chapters like dan 13 the great faith story of blessed susana negating the word of God
I went and read it after you mentioned it. It WAS a great story ... just like "The Little Drummer Boy" ... and also like "The Little Drummer Boy" is a work of fiction having no place in the inspired word of God. (Although it DOES make 'perfect' Daniel seem more 'human' to see him violating the Law of God given through Moses.) ;)
 

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I went and read it after you mentioned it. It WAS a great story ... just like "The Little Drummer Boy" ... and also like "The Little Drummer Boy" is a work of fiction having no place in the inspired word of God. (Although it DOES make 'perfect' Daniel seem more 'human' to see him violating the Law of God given through Moses.) ;)

Are you nuts!

inspired story of faith and trust in God and part of scripture for a thousand years before the KJV
 

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Mary from the first moment Her immaculate conception was pure and holy and beheld the beatific vision of God in heaven (even in her mothers womb) and loved God completely, consecrating herself, her entire being to God’s service including her virginity forever more!
Matt 5:8

Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
 

Jim B

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Mary from the first moment Her immaculate conception was pure and holy and beheld the beatific vision of God in heaven (even in her mothers womb) and loved God completely, consecrating herself, her entire being to God’s service including her virginity forever more!
Matt 5:8

Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

Sorry but I believe only what the Bible says. Mary was a teenager chosen by God to become pregnant with Jesus, then became pregnant several times afterwards with His siblings. She, like every other woman, was a virgin only until she became pregnant.

Matthew 5:8 -- Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. -- applies to many people, not just Mary.

Why do you exalt Mary far above what God's Word -- the Bible -- clearly says about her?
 

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Are you nuts!

inspired story of faith and trust in God and part of scripture for a thousand years before the KJV
So you believe that Daniel violated the Law given by God to Moses for the Chosen People?

(And the story was NOT part of Daniel for hundreds of years from the exile until the Hellenization of the Jews [assimilation of Greek culture and loss of Hebrew culture], was regarded as a FABLE by Saint Jerome [the person that translated the Bible into Latin], and was widely regarded as an story to "inspire" the people, bit not as "inspired scripture" for determining doctrine by many of the churches that chose to include it [like the rest of the apcryphal books] ... but don't let that stand in your way. You know there are GNOSTIC Gospels and letters that are also not "God breathed" that you can read, too. There are even modern versions like the Davinci Code that are interesting and false. Once TRUTH no longer matters, the options expand tremendously.

Perhaps I am 'nuts', but as for me and my house, we will stick with the 66 "God breathed" books that all agree are inspired and leave the uninspired fables to the enjoyment of others.
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I personally prefer to read a Bible translation in my own language. Right now I'm favoring NASB1995 but I own several versions in hard copy and a gazillion different ones in electronic format.
 
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This passage to me answers the question. God preserves His Words to all generations, therefore, the correct Word of God was not lost for 1000 years buried in the sands of time.



After studying and comparing translations and manuscripts for many years, I know that whichever of my Bibles I use, if an actual translation, they all teach me the same things.

One of my favorite quotes from the King James Bible is from the 1611 preface,


King James Version (KJV) original preface [1611} free online

Much love!
There is NO perfect English translation, as inspiration and perfection was to the Originals when were penned down, and the Church NEVER has held to any translation to be such until Kjvo arose!
 

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There is NO perfect English translation, as inspiration and perfection was to the Originals when were penned down, and the Church NEVER has held to any translation to be such until Kjvo arose!
That's because until the KJV, we didn't have an officially "Authorized" version so we all just had to rely on the Holy Spirit. ;)
[Here, have a little gasoline for that fire.] :cool:
 
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