What Are we Getting Saved From?

Jack said:

Then why are you doing the JW Bible TWIST?

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Jack said:

You don't like Literal Bible? I'd bet you like John 3:16 as literal though.

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face2face said:

Because in this matter they have truth.

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face2face said:

You highlight an important point. Being able to identify what is figrative and what is literal is an important skill. One Nicodemus had to learn also John 3:4

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Jack said:

Sounds like JW doctrine to me. Whatever they don't like is not literal.

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face2face said:

When a doctrine is true its not owned by the JW's, Baptists or any other denomination, it belongs to God.

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Jack said:

Kingdom Hall TWISTS nearly every verse in the Bible.

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face2face said:

But I've just caught you twisting the atonement to say only the blood redeems us when it's clearly proven the body also.
You know there is a word for that

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Aunty Jane said:

Who sends them to this place? It isn’t the devil who tortures them...it is supposedly your god who enjoys this form of punishment....I know whose personality is expressed this way....certainly not the God who is the epitome of love. He does not even desire the death of the wicked, let alone torturing them for eternity. What purpose is served in that? Can you tell me? God is about repentance and forgiveness....not just punishment for the sake of it.

You just can’t see that all the things you think Christ taught are the product of a corrupted church....and the “apostasy” that Jesus and his apostles foretold happened just as he said it would, but so long ago that you don’t know, or were not taught any different. The divided mess that is Christendom, is not even close to the teachings of the one they claim as their “Lord”. (Matthew 7:21-23) But you will never “see” that unless you open your “heart” so that God can open your “eyes”. (John 6:65)


You can believe that if you wish but the Bible is full of symbolisms...it’s not my place to force anyone to believe a word I say....I am just a messenger. I “plant and water”, but only ‘God can make the seed of truth grow’.....and we already know that it only grows in what God considers “fine soil”. The easiest person on the planet to fool...is ourselves.
Who does God see, compared to what we see in ourselves?

Have we been taken in by the counterfeit “Christianity” that Jesus said would be “sown by the devil”? It was beginning to surface whilst the apostles were still alive...that is how long it’s been festering in the world, slowly developing into something Christ will ultimately reject as those he “never knew”.
You can evaluate the evidence for yourself and come to your own conclusions....God allows us all to do this.

At the judgment, we will all be caught in the act of being ourselves....

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Jack said:

Hell will be filled with religious people who don't believe in Hell.
Revelation 20
15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

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teamventure said:

The purpose of hell is to inprison wickedness and the lake of fire to burn wickedness so wickedness doesn't roam free.

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Jack said:

Why are you attacking the Blood atonement of Jesus?
1 Peter 1
18 knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.

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face2face said:

I see why people dont persist with you. Do you have a learning disability? Seriously?

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Jack said:

No, I'm not a JW cheerleader.

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face2face said:

You really dislike the JW's - did you have a bad experience?

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Jack said:

Kingdom Hall TWISTS nearly every verse in the Bible.

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face2face said:

Where is the story of this Hell in the Bible - it's creation?

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teamventure said:

See post #520

The Bible says more about hell than it does about heaven.

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teamventure said:

Scripture has tried and tried to warn us that hell is eternal punishment so many times and in so many ways but people don't want to believe it so they make up explanations.
It would be one thing if there were only a couple scriptures that look like they need an explanation but there are so many passages.
Wake up!

“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Matthew 25:46 NIV

“the worms that eat them will not die, the fire that burns them will not be quenched”
Isaiah 66:24 NIV

Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
Daniel 12:2 NIV

They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 13:42 NIV

And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night.”
Revelation 14:11 NIV

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DavidB said:

Control yourself. That is an idiotic statement.

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