Duh, irrelevant because 'enosh" (another word for "man" or "mortal" is not the word used in Hos. 11:9; "ish" ('a male') is.
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God is male/female
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Wick Stick
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That isn't obvious to me at all. The prophet had a problem of perception that was lifted.
Hard to say. Some angels are visible but would I know they were angels? I've never recognized a humanoid angel living on the earth.
That's what I said. NOT crazy. But also NOT Biblical.
Earth. The ability to fast-travel appears several times in Scripture. Extra dimensions aren't required for that.
We probably go our separate ways on this one. I think that the heavens are visible. Just look up. Our vision isn't infinite, but we can certainly peer in that direction.
Wick Stick
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אִישׁ can refer to any person, male or female. It's usually cased as אִשָּׁה when it's a female. But where it is contrasted with God, it just means human.
A writing of Paul to Timothy in his first sent letter, in regards of what his mission is to go and teach to the people of Crete, I believe.
”First of all, I ask that you pray for all people.
Ask God to bless them and give them what they need. And give thanks.
You should pray for rulers and for all who have authority.
Pray for these leaders so that we can live quiet and peaceful lives—lives full of devotion to God and respect for him.
This is good and pleases God our Savior. God wants everyone to be saved and to fully understand the truth.
There is only one God, and there is only one way that people can reach God. That way is through Christ Jesus, who as a man gave himself to pay for everyone to be free.
This is the message that was given to us at just the right time. And I was chosen as an apostle to tell people that message. (I am telling the truth. I am not lying.) I was chosen to teach those who are not Jews to believe and understand the truth. I want the men everywhere to pray. Men who lift their hands in prayer must be devoted to God and pleasing to him.
They must be men who keep themselves from getting angry and having arguments. And I want the women to make themselves attractive in the right way.
Their clothes should be sensible and appropriate. They should not draw attention to themselves with fancy hairstyles or gold jewelry or pearls or expensive clothes. But they should make themselves attractive by the good things they do.
That is more appropriate for women who say they are devoted to God. A woman should learn while listening quietly and being completely willing to obey. I don’t allow a woman to teach a man or tell him what to do.
She must listen quietly, because Adam was made first. Eve was made later.
Also, Adam was not the one who was tricked. It was the woman who was tricked and became a sinner.
But women will be saved in their work of having children. They will be saved if they continue to live in faith, love, and holiness with sensible behavior.“
1 Timothy 2:1-15 ERV
”First of all, I ask that you pray for all people.
Ask God to bless them and give them what they need. And give thanks.
You should pray for rulers and for all who have authority.
Pray for these leaders so that we can live quiet and peaceful lives—lives full of devotion to God and respect for him.
This is good and pleases God our Savior. God wants everyone to be saved and to fully understand the truth.
There is only one God, and there is only one way that people can reach God. That way is through Christ Jesus, who as a man gave himself to pay for everyone to be free.
This is the message that was given to us at just the right time. And I was chosen as an apostle to tell people that message. (I am telling the truth. I am not lying.) I was chosen to teach those who are not Jews to believe and understand the truth. I want the men everywhere to pray. Men who lift their hands in prayer must be devoted to God and pleasing to him.
They must be men who keep themselves from getting angry and having arguments. And I want the women to make themselves attractive in the right way.
Their clothes should be sensible and appropriate. They should not draw attention to themselves with fancy hairstyles or gold jewelry or pearls or expensive clothes. But they should make themselves attractive by the good things they do.
That is more appropriate for women who say they are devoted to God. A woman should learn while listening quietly and being completely willing to obey. I don’t allow a woman to teach a man or tell him what to do.
She must listen quietly, because Adam was made first. Eve was made later.
Also, Adam was not the one who was tricked. It was the woman who was tricked and became a sinner.
But women will be saved in their work of having children. They will be saved if they continue to live in faith, love, and holiness with sensible behavior.“
1 Timothy 2:1-15 ERV
BlessedPeace
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Well before that, the history of those described is long after Christ walked the earth, we are told in the OT by God..... That he is the only one, there is no other, besides him, God, there is no Savior.
Which coincides with all those verses in the NT wherein Jesus tells us, he is God.
The NT describes seeing God as a man, in Jesus. The Word made flesh.
God cannot be a man. If he is, then the scripture contradicts itself when it tells us, God is spirit.
In context it is contrasting between mortal and eternal. Of course, I'm no Hebrew expert like @Berserk....
So whar's your point? Neither "enosh" or "adam" is used in God's denial in Hosea 11:9. The noun for "male, "Ish," is.
Ronald David Bruno
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I know. There are angels all around us.
Where are these hundreds of millions of angels? A legion is 6000. Demons are fallen angels who can possess people. One demon possessed person was healed by Jesus. They identified themselves as legion. Then He sent them into a heard of 2000 pigs who ran off the cliff into an area where some believe the entrance into the Abyss is. Do some study.
Where did Jesus go when for the other 39 days He wasn't seen and then where did He ascend to if not a spiritual dimension?
No, likey on many topics.
amigo de christo
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actually NO , the WORD did not become flesh in genesis .
Man simply became a living soul . HUGE DIFFERENCE my dear , dear friend.
THE WORD did become flesh much , much later .
AND WE can easily see the difference between the two .
THE FIRST ADAM , FAILED
but the WORD become flesh , the second adam PREVAILED . HUGE difference indeed my friend . HUGE difference .
HAD adam been the WORD become flesh , THEY WOULD NEVER have eaten , NEVER have DISOBEYED GOD to begin with .
HUGE difference .
Do be encouraged .
amigo de christo
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an enemy has done this my dear sister .
the reason there be so many denominations is due to man and his differing teachings .
DOCTRINE DO MATTER . the problem is when it cometh of men who twisted things , IT NEEDS to be DISREGAURED .
Do you realize how easy it could be
if every singel man and woman were to just start over IN JUST the BIBLE
removing all this mid , pre , post , preterism , osas , and scores of other things , like prosperity gospel etc
like seeker friendly etc , and JUST learn what was written long ago
IT WOULD be much simplier . the problem , MANY are not willing to do such a thing .
You see , IF i were in charge of teaching or appointing elders
i would have ONE BOOK by which i taught and you can bet the doctrines of men would not be taught .
rather line by line and precept upon precept would simply be read from that book .
But again many are not willing to do just that .
Quite right too, God is not a man or a woman - God is Spirit and after He - God - came to earth as a human man he ascended back into heaven but left behind his Holy Spirit.
amigo de christo
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And what and who does the HOLY SPIRIT TESTIFY OF and REMIND OF ............
HE will TESTIFY OF ME , SAID JESUS
OF JESUS CHRIST . and HE will remind you of ALLLLL things That i do teach .
So allow me a quick question .
HOW COME more and more are believing that somehow these people of other religoins
IF they are loving and doing good have THE SPIRIT and are serving The same GOD as do we .
FOR DID not paul also write
NO MAN BY THE SPIRIT would seperate JESUS OUT , call him accursed
and that NO MAN can even CALL , CALL , CALL HIM LORD but by THE SPIRIT .
Yea we better watch out for this all inclusive broad road wordly love
getting taught today .
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amigo de christo
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Yes , GOD is neither male nor female . the term HE is applied due to HEADSHIP .
for as GOD made man to be the head over the woman , JESUS CHRIST IS HEAD over the church as GOD is over all .
So we use the term HE and never once SHE .
NOTICE when the church is described its called SHE and GOD and CHRIST HE . HEAD SHIP purposes of course .
for even paul said there is neither greek nor jew , male nor female . BUT of course HE Speaks concerning THE SPIRIT .
cause we know there are still genders such as male and female .
Even JESUS uses the mascline term OUR FATHER . never heard him say OUR MOTHER .
What many bring to day may have partial truths , like when it says GOD is neither male or female
but beware for they are also using that to JUSTIFY the transgender , the man or the woman or child
who tries to change their PHYSICAL sex . AND ITS A LIE too . FOR HOW GOD created , IS what we are
from the womb to the tomb . Many now bring in doctrines
twisted and taken out of text in order to support a dark rainbow and its unnatural love . watch out
cause they be sneaky too . but the lambs will not heed the voice of darkness but rather OF CHRIST . stay dug in the scrips my
dear sister . THIS IS A WAR and its now the darkest hour upon earth . We who have the light , the light of CHRIST
Shall see the path and know the way , FOR JESUS IS WITH US and DO LEAD US . but this world IS GONNA HATE US only more and more .
Dooood. You're wrong. Take the L. Go home.
I could spoon feed you, or you could man up and look into it. You'll learn more if you do the work.
What a wonderful world it would be, eh?
If everyone thought and believed and taught just like you.
I have an idea. Start a cult.
Marvelloustime
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Jesus? We beheld the glory of Jesus? Did we?
Or....
He sprouted up like a twig before God, like a root out of parched soil;
he had no stately form or majesty that might catch our attention,
no special appearance that we should want to follow him.
Which was it?
Now the Word became flesh and took up residence among us. We saw his glory—the glory of the one and only, full of grace and truth, who came from the Father.
If you don't make a distinction between Jesus the man, and the LIFE that was within him. Between the container of flesh and the LIGHT that was put in that jar.... you'll never get it.
In him was life, and the life was the light of mankind.
“I saw the Spirit descending like a dove from heaven, and it remained on him."
BlessedPeace
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Rush, the Hebrew word for spirit, is recognized as both feminine and masculine.
"... 7: "the spirit shall return unto God" (Eccl. R. xii. 7). The spirit talks sometimes with a masculine and sometimes with a feminine voice (Eccl. vii. 29 [A. V. 28]); i.e., as the word "ruaḥ" is both masculine and feminine, the Holy Spirit was conceived as being sometimes a man and sometimes a woman."
HOLY SPIRIT - JewishEncyclopedia.com
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