But you do with all those pretty colours, Christ is not a cult is that really what you think of Him??TRANSLATION:
"You got me - and I have NO way to defend my allegiance to my online cult."
That's what I thought . . .
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But you do with all those pretty colours, Christ is not a cult is that really what you think of Him??TRANSLATION:
"You got me - and I have NO way to defend my allegiance to my online cult."
That's what I thought . . .
Not HIM - I speak of you and your cult. You know - aggressivechristianity.net??But you do with all those pretty colours, Christ is not a cult is that really what you think of Him??
I have never seeing a man with such hate for the truth, you have nothing good to say, so you seek to tare down all that oppose you, just like your religion that forced so many to join at pain of death, you are your religion, so angry, something to do with thisNot HIM - I speak of you and your cult. You know - aggressivechristianity.net??
They're the ones with the "Generals" in charge . . .
Why do you keep saying that Christ is not a cult??I have never seeing a man with such hate for the truth, you have nothing good to say, so you seek to tare down all that oppose you, just like your religion that forced so many to join at pain of death, you are your religion, so angry, something to do with this
Joh 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Joh 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
Christ is not a cult, and He certainly does not require any man to be a prt of any religion to follow Him this bit
Mat_23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
just another saul. murdering Gods children and delighting in it.
I follow Christ so therefore you are calling Him a cult, why is it you hate those who follow Him that is what we are called to do, what has religion got to do with Jesus or the salvation of men. Im not going away this time BOL. i am tired of watching you murder Gods people, turning them away from Him. tired of your lies and hypocrisies, what I cant understand is how the "moderators" who are supposed to call them selves "christians: have allowed it to go on for so long. Do they not know that in the end they will be called into account, I guess they dont.Why do you keep saying that Christ is not a cult??
I never said He was. I said that YOUR cult is a cult.
Nonsense!! That is absolutely laughable. Why is there any onus on me to refute an idea that holds no water or credibility in the first place???NOW - the onus is on YOU to show me ONE extrabiblical/historical text that refutes the idea that "The Lord's Day" is some other day in the Early Church . . .
Who pray tell me is this Peter who lived in the second century and wrote a "gospel"? Sounds to me like one of the many other forgeries and fakes written by Catholicism throughout the centuries to support her lies and false claims to power and authority. Like the myths that surround Saint" Patrick, who purportedly worked many miracles in Rome and rid Ireland of snakes. Like the Donation of Constantine, used for centuries to uphold Vatican civil authority. Like the altering of manuscripts and writings of the early church fathers eg letters of Justyn Martyr? or was it Ignatius of Antioch? to suit Catholic doctrine. No, I didn't bother to read this so-called gospel of Peter. If Christ didn't change the day of rest, then no-one else can, or did.I gave you extrabiblical historical text of the 2nd century document, the Gospel of Peter, which refers to the "Lord's day" as the day Jesus rose from the dead (Sunday).
The Bible is all we need to be safe in all faith and practice. Unless there is a "thus sayeth the Lord" changing the day of sacred and blessed fellowship with God and our fellow man from the 7th day to the 1st, then I reject it. Your so called church fathers and their apostate mutterings on the matter notwithstanding.MUCH of what we depend on historically as Christians - Catholic OR Protestant is documented in Early Church writings. This is where the anti-Catholic house of cards usually comes tumbling down.
No - you don't follow Christ - you follow aggressivechristianity.net with all of their aberrant teachings and perverted doctrines.I follow Christ so therefore you are calling Him a cult, why is it you hate those who follow Him that is what we are called to do, what has religion got to do with Jesus or the salvation of men. Im not going away this time BOL. i am tired of watching you murder Gods people, turning them away from Him. tired of your lies and hypocrisies, what I cant understand is how the "moderators" who are supposed to call them selves "christians: have allowed it to go on for so long. Do they not know that in the end they will be called into account, I guess they dont.
HAve a lovely day.
Nonsense!! That is absolutely laughable. Why is there any onus on me to refute an idea that holds no water or credibility in the first place???
Who pray tell me is this Peter who lived in the second century and wrote a "gospel"? Sounds to me like one of the many other forgeries and fakes written by Catholicism throughout the centuries to support her lies and false claims to power and authority. Like the myths that surround Saint" Patrick, who purportedly worked many miracles in Rome and rid Ireland of snakes. Like the Donation of Constantine, used for centuries to uphold Vatican civil authority. Like the altering of manuscripts and writings of the early church fathers eg letters of Justyn Martyr? or was it Ignatius of Antioch? to suit Catholic doctrine. No, I didn't bother to read this so-called gospel of Peter. If Christ didn't change the day of rest, then no-one else can, or did.
The Bible is all we need to be safe in all faith and practice. Unless there is a "thus sayeth the Lord" changing the day of sacred and blessed fellowship with God and our fellow man from the 7th day to the 1st, then I reject it. Your so called church fathers and their apostate mutterings on the matter notwithstanding.
The onus IS on you to show me an extrabiblical source that refutes the Lord's Day because I gave you an extrabiblical source that supports it.Nonsense!! That is absolutely laughable. Why is there any onus on me to refute an idea that holds no water or credibility in the first place???
Who pray tell me is this Peter who lived in the second century and wrote a "gospel"? Sounds to me like one of the many other forgeries and fakes written by Catholicism throughout the centuries to support her lies and false claims to power and authority. Like the myths that surround Saint" Patrick, who purportedly worked many miracles in Rome and rid Ireland of snakes. Like the Donation of Constantine, used for centuries to uphold Vatican civil authority. Like the altering of manuscripts and writings of the early church fathers eg letters of Justyn Martyr? or was it Ignatius of Antioch? to suit Catholic doctrine. No, I didn't bother to read this so-called gospel of Peter. If Christ didn't change the day of rest, then no-one else can, or did.
The Bible is all we need to be safe in all faith and practice. Unless there is a "thus sayeth the Lord" changing the day of sacred and blessed fellowship with God and our fellow man from the 7th day to the 1st, then I reject it. Your so called church fathers and their apostate mutterings on the matter notwithstanding.
Here is the full quote from Didache 14 as presented at CHURCH FATHERS: The Didache.The onus IS on you to show me an extrabiblical source that refutes the Lord's Day because I gave you an extrabiblical source that supports it.
Here is another one. The Didache (Teachings of the Twelve Apostles) is a FIRST CENTURY document written while MOST of the Apostles were still alive. It speaks of confessing your sins to the Church, the Eucharist, methods of Baptism, including pouring - and gathering for prayer and communion on "THE LORD'S DAY":
"But every Lord's day gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving"
Not ONE Protestant scholar that I have ever read refutes the Didache as a "forgery" or "spurious" document.
YOUR turn, Einstein . . .
Scripture calls Sunday the Lords day. Every Christian historical writing since the beginning of Christianity calls Sunday the Lords day. Any claim otherwise began a short time ago, after the Reformation.And here is another example of your selective reasoning...your church actually claims the right to be Lord of the Sabbath by stealing it from Jesus. Your church calls Sunday the Lord's day, yet Jesus called the Sabbath His day. Time you fellas gave it back to Him.
27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Untrue unless you read "Sunday" into those words. Reference please.Scripture calls Sunday the Lords day.
Oh you are so upset, raving on as usual, when will the hypocrisy and lies end, I guess one day when you find the truth.No - you don't follow Christ - you follow aggressivechristianity.net with all of their aberrant teachings and perverted doctrines.
You follow the doctrines and precepts of "Generals" James and Deborah Green - NOT those of Christ and His 2000 year old Church.
You site here and pontificate all day long about how "wrong" everybody else is - yet YOU follow a cult that was invented in 1980.
Your hypocrisy is mind-boggling . . .
You can make scripture say anything you want when you change the meaning of words, like "first day of the week."Untrue unless you read "Sunday" into those words. Reference please.
No problem.Here is the full quote from Didache 14 as presented at CHURCH FATHERS: The Didache.
But every Lord's day gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned. For this is that which was spoken by the Lord: In every place and time offer to me a pure sacrifice; for I am a great King, says the Lord, and my name is wonderful among the nations.The verse being quoted in the last sentence above is Malachi 1:14;
But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth unto the Lord [Adonay] a corrupt thing: for I am a great King, saith the LORD [YHWH] of hosts, and my name is dreadful among the heathen. KJV [brackets mine]Therefore, the "Lord" that is being referenced in the Didache is Yeshua's Father, Adonay YHWH. It is "YHWH's day" (the Sabbath Day) that is being spoken of, not our Lord Yeshua's day.
Also, the Greek of Didache 14:1 reads, "kata kuriaken de kuriou" (literally "according to the Lord's of the Lord"). The Greek of Revelation 1:10 reads, "κυριακη ημερα" (Lord's day"). Since "ημερα" (day) is missing in the translation above, how can the word "day" be part of the translation?
Now it is your turn to prove "Lord's day" in the Didache refers to Sunday.
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Not "upset" at all.Oh you are so upset, raving on as usual, when will the hypocrisy and lies end, I guess one day when you find the truth.
Joh 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me
oh well another day of stuff..
After distorting the text and history to read what they want into the Bible, and thereby obtaining God's "blessing" on their hatred of the Catholic Church, some "Christians" ignore the only texts of Scripture which tells us about the religious leanings of the Antichrist. In St. John's letters (1 John 4, 2 John 1), he tells us that the spirit of the Antichrist denies the Incarnation (the Son of God becoming man) and thereby also the Trinity (the Father and the Spirit, too).If the whore of babylon is pagan rome then the bible is wrong if the whore of babylon is the Roman Catholic Church then the bible is right
We can name some of the martyrs because they were Catholic. You can't name a single one because you have divorced yourself from the early church. That's why you avoid the ECF, you have nothing to do with them. Do you reject the Council of Nicae too?The hierarchy of the pagan Roman religious system was it Rome.
The harlot and Roman Empire was drenched in the blood of the martyrs.
THAT IS A LIE.Study the history of the pagan Roma religions. Look at their titles, structure and even clothing. Then compare it to the Roman Catholic Church. They match.
We can name some of the martyrs because they were Catholic. You can't name a single one because you have divorced yourself from the early church. That's why you avoid the ECF, you have nothing to do with them. Do you reject the Council of Nicae too?
THAT IS A LIE.
The Lies of Dave Hunt #4
Hunt states, "She [the Whore] is clothed in ‘purple and scarlet’ (verse 4), the colors of the Catholic clergy." He then cites the Catholic Encyclopedia to show that bishops wear certain purple vestments and cardinals wear certain red vestments.
Hunt ignores the obvious symbolic meaning of the colors—purple for royalty and red for the blood of Christian martyrs. Instead, he is suddenly literal in his interpretation. He understood well enough that the woman symbolizes a city and that the fornication symbolizes something other than literal sex, but now he wants to assign the colors a literal, earthly fulfillment in a few vestments of certain Catholic clergy.
Purple and red are not the dominant colors of Catholic clerical vestments. White is. All priests wear white (including bishops and cardinals when they are saying Mass)—even the pope does so.
The purple and scarlet of the Whore are contrasted with the white of the New Jerusalem, the Bride of Christ (Rev. 19:8). This is a problem for Hunt for three reasons:
(a) we have already noted that the dominant color of Catholic clerical vestments is white, which would identify them with New Jerusalem if the color is taken literally;
(b) the clothing of the Bride is given a symbolic interpretation ("the righteous acts of the saints;" 19:8); implying that the clothing of the Whore should also be given a symbolic meaning; and
(c) the identification of the Bride as New Jerusalem (Rev. 3:12, 21:2, 10) suggests that the Whore may be old (apostate) Jerusalem—a contrast used elsewhere in Scripture (Gal. 4:25–26).
Hunt ignores the liturgical meaning of purple and red in Catholic symbolism. Purple symbolizes repentance, and red honors the blood of Christ and the Christian martyrs.
It is appropriate for Catholic clerics to wear purple and scarlet, if for no other reason because they have been liturgical colors of the true religion since ancient Israel.
Hunt neglects to remind his readers that God commanded that scarlet yarn and wool be used in liturgical ceremonies (Lev. 14:4, 6, 49–52; Num. 19:6), and that God commanded that the priests’ vestments be made with purple and scarlet yarn (Ex. 28:4–8, 15, 33, 39:1–8, 24, 29).
Hunting the Whore of Babylon | Catholic Answers
Coreissue may as well claim that the liturgical vestments worn by the priests of ancient Israel is a match to pagan Romans.