I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

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I was like you and kept making excuses for him time after time. I didn't want to believe it either. Denial is how the mind protects us from a truth that we aren't ready to handle yet. If you pray and ask God to show you then in time I think He will.

And now we have Trump helping homos globally (article is in post #899 in this thread).
 

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I see that you have the wisdom that comes from God. That's one more bit of wisdom that I can refer to.

I see that you have it to. It comes from God-the-Father and God-the-Son; we're just the vehicles - they are driving.
 

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Donald Trump, "nationalist" and "Christian", President of the USA, helping homosexuals globally:
Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality

So much for being a nationalist...
This is an international human rights issue. Do you get that the USA uses it's positive influence & takes part along with other Nations to prevent human rights violations? This happens ALL the time. Hello?, this does not contradict being a Nationalist.
Do you 4Jesus think being Gay should be a criminal offence ? or punishable by death? --I certainly hope not.
Do you think men accused of homosexuality should be hung in Iran? or thrown off roofs in Islamic nations?

"Although the decriminalization strategy is still being hashed out, officials say it’s likely to include working with global organizations like the United Nations, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, as well as other countries whose laws already allow for gay rights. Other U.S. embassies and diplomatic posts throughout Europe, including the U.S. Mission to the E.U., are involved, as is the State Department’s Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor.
Narrowly focused on criminalization, rather than broader LGBT issues like same-sex marriage, the campaign
was conceived partly in response to the recent reported execution by hanging of a young gay man in Iran, the Trump administration’s top geopolitical foe.

Grenell, as Trump’s envoy to Germany, has been an outspoken Iran critic and has aggressively pressed European nations to abandon the 2015 nuclear deal and re-impose sanctions. But while the Trump administration has had some success in pressuring Iran through stepped-up U.S. penalties, efforts to bring the Europeans along have thus far largely fallen flat.

Reframing the conversation on Iran around a human rights issue that enjoys broad support in Europe could help the United States and Europe reach a point of agreement on Iran. Grenell called the hanging “a wake-up call for anyone who supports basic human rights,” in Bild, a leading German newspaper, this month.
 

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I hadn't given thought to it being world wide. I was wondering how the banking cartel plan to reduce America's population by 2025 as listed on the Deagel government website. I wonder if we're to "hide ourselves" as Scripture warns: "He who sees the evil hides himself..." Does anyone else ponder this?

I think we're to "be in the world, not of it", meaning not to do as they do, not to help/protect this world, etc. I wanna watch the world burn, hopefully near God and not down here.

Concerning that verse, I take it to mean to not be on evil's radar, not necessarily "hide" in a cave or in the arctic or something. Because hiding won't matter soon, once judgment/wrath falls upon this world: Revelation 6:15-17 "
And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

I just read that a professor in Wisconsin predicted the end of America by 2025. I wonder why people are coming up with that date.

I can guess, that's about it. All the signs are leading up to the end times. satan and demons know this; so do their human followers in positions of authority. God allows this, so in a way, they are aligned, but for very different reasons.

According to 2 Thessalonians 2:6 "on’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed"

(study links: Who Is The Restrainer? – Grace thru faith & Who / What is the restrainer in 2 Thessalonians 2:6?)

God, and satan, know who the "Restrainer" is, and will take him out of the way. My guess is the "Restrainer" will be removed on or near that date, or at least in so much as satan/demons believe, thus their human followers too. Perhaps they are just guessing though, and it is earlier than 2025 - just their perceived date for this prophecy in line with the other signs of the end times.

You think there is going to be WW 3 of some sort? We're told to watch for the signs. I read that Russia is building nuclear shelters throughout their country and were deliberately trying to hide it from Americans. The news is all owned now however, so I don't know how much of it we can trust. For instance - no newspaper to my knowledge ever reported on the van full of explosives that was caught after 9-11. It contained Israeli spies and the side of the van was a mural of a plane hitting the World Trade Center!

9/11 Mural Van, page 1

Well, yes and no. We have yet to see the prophecy fulfilled of Damascus being destroyed - Isaiah 17:1-3 "
The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
2 The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid.
3 The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the Lord of hosts."

That could start a war with Israel, after which the peace plan is rolled out, as one possibility. Would that be a world war, no, probably not, probably isolated to that region with Russia helping out. I doubt a world war occurs, since the nations of this world will be handed over to the beast.

I've been reading Revelations very slowly. It takes me awhile to fully grasp what I'm reading, and I'm playing catch-up since I was never in a bible study that taught it. I was thinking about asking our pastor to do some sermons on it.

It's taking everyone awhile to fully grasp each piece of the puzzle, even those who have spent years studying it, and I still don't think they understand it all - only God does, and thankfully, that's the one we put our faith into. It will be exciting to watch how it plays out; hopefully we get to watch it, and not experience it. It is the greatest end to the greatest story ever told. His story!

Thanks for the resources - I'm looking for more quality resources. I have such a thirst for understanding the end times. It's an exciting yet precarious time to live. Brakelite shared Walter Veiths videos and I could not believe that the Simpsons cartoon predicted 9-11. Veith piqued my curiosity so then I watched another video about it and am shocked at the 9-11 predictions and demonic symbolism throughout childrens cartoons. I don't know if that's a way that Satan/ Satanists are intentionally indoctrinating children or if the powers that be are just enjoying making fun of us for being clueless.

I urge everyone to watch Veith or the following:


You're welcome, hopefully it gives you a sense of calm too - maybe skip ahead to Revelation 19 - 22; those are the best 4 chapters of that book, then go back and reread from chapter 1 so that it doesn't frighten you.

Thanks for the video of the cartoon. That is troublesome, though not suprising. I think one of the ways satan and his followers get their laughs is that they "know" the future (because some events they plan and cause) and show it to us while we don't know what hit us, a sort of predator of information, if you will.

In Christ, and thanks for the conversations btw, it's been my pleasure - I can't wait to meet you in Heaven.
 

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I think , of all the crazy and stupid threads we have had on this Site , this one takes the Prize.

All the while people still answer this obsessed nutter who is 'driving' the thread, the thread continues..all 45 pages of it... Talk about the blind leading the blind.
EDIT...46 pages and counting!!

I "take my hat off to you" for sticking with it!! :)
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On what, God-the-Father and God-the-Son driving our vehicles? lol, yeah, I'm a +1 on that. ;)
I meant to take a vote on the part where you hinted that the God of the Bible would supports hanging homosexuals in Iran or any country & that God was directing you to call out Trump for opposing it internationally? that's what I got from your post.
Personally, I rather do believe God is guiding President Trump to take a leadership stand with the international community on this human rights tragedy to prevent countries like Iran from criminalizing homosexuality hang those people accused being gay.
 
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The so called Human rights mob is totally Satanic.
All Sodomies are Devils who are promoting Satan.
Not to mention all that such people who support Sodomites are promoting a deranged death culture.
Anyone who supports Sodomites is leading the world astray and they are going to Hell.
God does not promote Sodomites at all, in fact God has wiped such out, every time for violating his Laws.
In All Christian Nations through history Homosexual acts are against the Law and when such is not the case such nations are not truly Christian at all because they are rejecting God and that's the fact of the mater. there will be hell to pay the wrath will come for disobeying God and only a Satanist who is trying to lead the world astray would say otherwise.

Islam is a god to a backwards people they are called sand niggers for a reason you know and within such a 3rd rate backwards society they may just need such laws to keep order, just like it was with the Jews OT dealing with a 2ed rate people. but when Jesus Christ came it was time to move up and forward, out of the Slave mentality and into Grace, as the time was ripe to do so and such is fine but with a backwards 3rd rate people you do not have Grace, because such will only turn truly just like a Hog and try to attack such for it's base beastly urges.
Christians don't kill Poofters but we should never promote such filth at all, because it's like a cancer.
No Sodomite supporter can be a Christian because they are supporting Satan works.
 
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The so called Human rights mob is totally Satanic.
All Sodomies are Devils who are promoting Satan.
Not to mention all that such people who support Sodomites are promoting a deranged death culture.
Anyone who supports Sodomites is leading the world astray and they are going to Hell.
God does not promote Sodomites at all, in fact God has wiped such out, every time for violating his Laws.
In All Christian Nations through history Homosexual acts are against the Law and when such is not the case such nations are not truly Christian at all because they are rejecting God and that's the fact of the mater. there will be hell to pay the wrath will come for disobeying God and only a Satanist who is trying to lead the world astray would say otherwise.

Islam is a god to a backwards people they are called sand niggers for a reason you know and within such a 3rd rate backwards society they may just need such laws to keep order, just like it was with the Jews OT dealing with a 2ed rate people. but when Jesus Christ came it was time to move up and forward, out of the Slave mentality and into Grace, as the time was ripe to do so and such is fine but with a backwards 3rd rate people you do not have Grace, because such will only turn truly just like a Hog and try to attack such for it's base beastly urges.
Christians don't kill Poofters but we should never promote such filth at all, because it's like a cancer.
No Sodomite supporter can be a Christian because they are supporting Satan works.

I totally agree with what you said.

But when you're talking about people in elective office they have taken a vow to uphold the law and the constitution.

You cannot have a state religion legally. You cannot strip away legal rights for religious reasons.

That does not mean you have to work to do of more rights and protections for those who violate your beliefs.

I faced these issues a few times when I was in elective office. Other religions, including Atheism wanted me to stop opening meetings with the prayer. I refused and they have no legal grounds to stop me. But I did loose a lot of votes in a reelection bid because of it.

As I told them, I would uphold my of office that every vote gave to my beliefs into consideration.

While I do not believe Trump is a born again Christian I believe he is not an enemy of Christianity.

In the MK there will be a lot of sinners. If God removed all of them who would be left to save?

The democrat party and the libertarian party are not the friends of Christians.
 
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I think , of all the crazy and stupid threads we have had on this Site , this one takes the Prize.

All the while people still answer this obsessed nutter who is 'driving' the thread, the thread continues..all 45 pages of it... Talk about the blind leading the blind.
EDIT...46 pages and counting!!

I "take my hat off to you" for sticking with it!! :)
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Now imagine me agreeing with you, and "flashing you the ok sign"... LOL
 
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I meant to take a vote on the part where you hinted that the God of the Bible would supports hanging homosexuals in Iran or any country & that God was directing you to call out Trump for opposing it internationally? that's what I got from your post.
Personally, I rather do believe God is guiding President Trump to take a leadership stand with the international community on this human rights tragedy to prevent countries like Iran from criminalizing homosexuality hang those people accused being gay.

Do you mean like Sodom and Gomorrah? Where the term 'sodomite' came from? And who are sodomites?

Does Jesus want homosexuals to come to repentence? Yes, I think he would. Does Jesus want Iran to stop killing Christians because they are Christian? Yes, I think he would. Yet no global effort to prevent the killing of Christians in Iran because they are Iran, correct? Just helping the sodomites, not the Christians, huh?

And btw, what about the argument that the president is nationalist? How does this help the nation of the USA?
 

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Do you mean like Sodom and Gomorrah? Where the term 'sodomite' came from? And who are sodomites?

Does Jesus want homosexuals to come to repentence? Yes, I think he would. Does Jesus want Iran to stop killing Christians because they are Christian? Yes, I think he would. Yet no global effort to prevent the killing of Christians in Iran because they are Iran, correct? Just helping the sodomites, not the Christians, huh?And btw, what about the argument that the president is nationalist? How does this help the nation of the USA?
The article explains what this is about, and attending the UN or Standing up for Human rights internationally is completely normal for the USA and takes away nothing from President Trump being a Nationalist- that is what Leaders of the free world do on a regular basis.
Taking this stand as the Whitehouse did , is the morally correct thing to do.
Hanging people because they are gay is a horrific barbaric act and it is a human rights violation and should not be condoned by any country let alone any Christians.
 

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UN Divides the World into 10 Regional Groupings

That has been in the planning and works well over 50 years. Wait until you discover (the NEWS, (not), how they intend to divide and the individual countries, which has also been in the plans for decades.
Corridors, Zones, Military equipped police enforcement at your door step coming soon.
 
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who is in control? Is it the bankers or the Vatican?
Revelation reveals it is a mutual agreement between them both. The Rothschilds aren't called the Vatican bankers for nothing. Prophecy tells us who is going to be ultimately in charge, regardless of what we may currently see with our eyes. Though soon we may see the woman (all apostate churches including the CC and Protestant churches as well as Islam, Hindu, Buddhist etc who have relinquished their authority to Rome while retaining their own unique character ...a syncretistic composite) riding the beast (global union of state power including financial cartels and all other industries) and thus the world will be presented with a church state union on a global scale, but ultimately, in charge is Jesus Christ. It is He who shall arrive in due time and smash the entire system to small enough pieces that they shall drift off in the wind.
Sincerely SG, while I understand your continuing excitement in so recently discovering these things, I think you need to take a step back and spend some time with Jesus and get a more balanced perspective. Focusing on the enemy's activities tends to be discouraging and depressing. I'm going to send you a link to a book to take your mind off things for a while, and read something uplifting and positive. Because what we need to be aware of is that while all this bad stuff is indeed going on (I don't deny it) God isn't sitting still just watching His world and His church turn into a custard tart. No, God also has His people doing great exploits...Muslims are being converted...new churches are opening in Africa and Asia every day...the kingdom of God is growing (in my own church over 1 million every year) as there always has been a 'remnant' who do not bow their knees to Baal. Forget about the works of the enemy for a while...and focus on the works of God. What God was doing throughout the history that this book deals with, God continues to do today. Be encouraged SG, take a break from this gloomy topic and rest a while. Love yuh sis, be cool.
 
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The article explains what this is about, and attending the UN or Standing up for Human rights internationally is completely normal for the USA and takes away nothing from President Trump being a Nationalist- that is what Leaders of the free world do on a regular basis.
Taking this stand as the Whitehouse did , is the morally correct thing to do.
Hanging people because they are gay is a horrific barbaric act and it is a human rights violation and should not be condoned by any country let alone any Christians.

Never once did I say they should be hanged.

I repeatedly ask though, where is the effort to keep them from killing Christians soley because they are Christian? Why does that not apply?

Maybe the "nationalist" president should leave the U.N.? Ever think of that?
 

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Never once did I say they should be hanged.

I repeatedly ask though, where is the effort to keep them from killing Christians soley because they are Christian? Why does that not apply?
Maybe the "nationalist" president should leave the U.N.? Ever think of that?
I think of a lot of things , I'm also very analytical and have quite good critical thinking skills. Trump being a Nationalist has nothing to do with your complaints , it's just the never ending litany of random negative accusations that the left tosses out.
Maybe stick to one issue instead of jumping around , otherwise it just looks like you are just a Trump hater.
You never came out and said they should be hung but it seems you were not in favor of this capital punishment for homosexuality to be halted either.
Nationalism is not depleted by Trump's administration standing up internationally against this barbaric act that Iran is guilty of, ya the Iran who is calling for "DEATH TO AMERICA" - hey guess what that includes you, if you're an American. Trump is not going to take guff from a country that is threatening & hates America and does terrible things to their people in order to retain power.