I'm just trying to understand what Anthony and other livening individuals on here believe. Not judging, just trying to understand.
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John Caldwell
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If you want to understand Calvinism itself there are better resources. I have not been keeping up with Anthony (sorry if I missed the point). His view is a postmodern form of Calvinism - more like Presbyterian blended with Baptist theology (with a hard focus on Covenant theology).
Anthony knows what he believes and has read quite a bit from older Presbyterian & Baptist theologians. He gets a bit wordy but he will certainly tell you what he believes. SovereignGrace and Preacher4Truth can also help explain that view.
You would probably do better to ask him to explain from the point of unconditional election. His view of foreknowledge naturally flows from that point.
Just a suggestion. Good luck.
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Sure it helps just read it first 13 says not of the will of the flesh not of the will of man that answers your question totally it says it's but of God so it does help if you read it and re-read it and look at it not of the will of The flesh not of the will of man but of God. Also if you want to know about Calvinism don't listen to anyone who doesn't believe in it they're going to tell you all kind false ideas to keep you away from the truth of what the scripture teaches
I"m asking you about your believe, and nothing more.
You answer doesn't make a lot of sense here though.
I believe what it says in verse 13 of John chapter 1 unless you believe what it says you're not going to get it
John Caldwell
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This reminds me - Are you familiar with Gibran?
If he is indeed wise he does not bid you enter the house of his wisdom, but rather leads you to the threshold of your own mind. The astronomer may speak to you of his understanding of space, but he cannot give you his understanding.
I studied Calvinism formally for several years as a grad student. I can tell you the doctrines taught and its historical development. I can speak of the doctrines I held when I was a Calvinist. But I cannot share my understanding of those doctrines.
This (Christian philosophy, theology, and theories) is something I enjoy studying. I love getting to know what people believe and why. It is fascinating. As we learn of others we often learn of ourselves.
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Indeed, theology should take into account God's timelessness. If it is someone's conjecture which doesn't take this into account, then it is bound to be wrong. And few take it into account, so I don't listen to anyone.
Anthony, I've asking what you believe to better understand what YOU believe. Accordingly, it would be much appreciated if you would explain it in your own words.
Again, my question is:
I see you talking a lot about wanting to teach and get the truth out there so that seekers may find Christ. But a prerequisite for person to seeking and willing to accept Christ is that they have free will. But you don't believe a person has free will. This appears to me to be a contradiction. Could you then explain (in your own words) why you invest so heavily in spending time teaching what you believe so that seekers may find Christ?
I believe in the scriptures God has given.
I believe in jn1:12-13.
I read it see what it says and present the gospel
According to the scriptures to sinners .
That means it is all about Jesus,24/7.
Good one Jane, of course sometimes people attempt to speak for me as a spokesperson, but they never get it right,lol
It almost looks as if they get it wrong on.purpose.
I"m a big believer in getting answers straight from the source. Which for the question "what does Anthony believe" is Anthony. That's why I asked you to explain things in your own words. But you didn't, which has me a bit frustrated.
Because people are bound in sin that will is bound in Sin, Jesus has to set them free to be able to worship and serve him.
Man cannot do it by Himself Jesus has to do it.
Paul was killing Christians, Jesus took over, had mercy up on him.
No where did Paul use any mythical free will.
Jesus made him willing by the work of the Spirit,jn3
Then his first words were Lord what will you have me to do?
No where did Paul use any mythical free will.
Jesus made him willing by the work of the Spirit,jn3
Then his first words were Lord what will you have me to do?
You believe that they are completely unable to free themselves, or be free by any other normal man. And yet you spend your time trying to free them.
1) That's Christ, not Anthony.
2) The example of Paul can be argued equally from a non-calvinist standpoint too. So it's not that helpful.
How did Paul seek Jesus?
He did not.
There is no argument. Jesus got him.
Men can not free themselves. But God Commands us to teach and preach the Kingdom of God .
The results belong to Him.
Redemption is the work of all three members of the trinity.
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You need to go back to school. Your definition of "address" is wrong too. Giving the correct explanation of a matter he failed to explain correctly, is not making up an idea either.
If you can count...that is strike three for you. You're out. No cookie.
Are you a member of the Trinity, Anthony? Because I'm asking about YOUR actions.
You believe that they are completely unable to free themselves, or be free by any other normal man. And yet you spend your time trying to free them.
This looks like a giant contradiction.
I see. You are suggesting A.W.Pink got it all wrong?
You Scott A. Have gone where no man has gone before and saw something never thought of by human flesh? Of course I should have seen this coming
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