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Discussion in 'Current Events & Politics Forum' started by Soverign Grace, Jun 9, 2019.

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    Soverign Grace Well-Known Member

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    Every day I've been reading about one more assault on our Constitution and I wonder why there is no public outrage. It's as if Americans think if they can keep their heads down it won't affect them - but that isn't true since history shows that eventually these types of things continue down a slippery slope until an entire populace is affected.

    I also wondered if many of the stories about Americans who have had their rights eviscerated are only reported by alternative news and Americans just aren't realizing the true scope of the problem.

    I just heard the story yesterday told by Attorney John Whitehead, a Constitutional lawyer, who told about a decorated marine who had posted his dissatisfaction with Obama on FaceBook. All these vans pulled up to his house and he went to the door and asked what was going on. He was thrown up against a fence and arrested. He kept asking what he did. They threw him in jail and forced him to be evaluated by a psychiatrist who claimed "He hesitated before answering questions." (who wouldn't under those circumstances?) They used that to confine him to a psychiatric facility.

    His mother called many groups seeking help until she found John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute, who was able to get the marine out.

    This is just one of many Constitutional violations that I read about every day. Isn't anyone else concerned about losing their rights? I don't know if this is happening in the UK or Australia but there has been a marked shift into the loss of our rights until America is starting to look like Nazi Germany.

    Attorney John Whitehead said that he is very concerned about our loss of rights in this country because he's on the front lines and is seeing cases such as this.
     
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    A Government of Wolves:

     
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    America in a Police State:

     
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    “As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air – however slight – lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.”

    —Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas
     
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    In Australia now if you are a Cop and called to be questioned by such a command officer that deals with such things, you can not hesitate in your answers, you can not think about such a question beforehand, such is a violation of ones rights. it's very Nazi or Communist like, but as we know that when you have Socialist in power, such then leads to a dictatorship over time and that the majority of people are to stupid to know until it's to late. and that's a fact !

    Anyone who says peep on Face Book can be used against you by the Police.
    If only Hitler and the Communist had Face Book in their day, what a wonderful tool that would be for them to deal with people, you would be called up and interrogated, not to mention all you know and all.

    When Face Book first came out I could see it for what it truly was, a Nazi type spying set up. I had a mate who demanded me to join up and ranted and raved, you must join ! right from the start i said listen boy, I know what this is, the devil is in the detail, as all my life I have been investigating into the art of how Nazis and Communist workings were conducted and have recordings of all such things that I came across on TV over many years to do with such and any information that i came across with such, I was on to it like a bird dog and I take all such very seriously. but that just went over his head like the ignorant numbskull that he is, not to mention the last stupid thing he said to me, stand their like a twerp:rolleyes: was that he never heard of the Final Solutiono_O. f in#^*#* ! how ignorant can on be ! and this prick has the hide to lecture me on the Jews, not to mention demands that i am a Jew, but some how that i don't know anything at all about the issue. and taking advise from a Atheist who's education on the subject of the Jews is bad for even a school kid, let alone got it all wrong with Christianity who totally hates the true Christians values but loves the greed of the Jews and how in India they treat their own people like slaves so as to worship greed above all, so i do look down on such people who treat their own people like that because i fear that what would such do to others if they are happy to do that. so yes i am racist and proud of it. i do not see all as my equal as under Socialism you have to but i am not racial prejudice as only fools are such, because they do not know what they are taking about in reality. not to mention i do know that their are good Indians as well as the trash, but i am not surprised about the trash as i know them and their works. just as Jesus knew who were not true Jews and pointed this out, not to mention Holy Moses had to deal with such as well.

    It was my fathers dad and his family that was under threat of the madness of the Nazis but lucky that he lived in Australia and my Mums who is from Denmark Dad who's eldest brother the Nazis came and got from their home an tortured him, so that he spent the rest of his life in a mental hospital and this prick laughed at that, i can't see anything funny about it at all.
     
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    when the cattle are in the corral the gate will close
     
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    I don't even know - is Australia socialist? You're a lot smarter than others when it comes to FB - I warned others but not everyone listens.

    That's sad about your uncle being tortured - and awful that anyone would find it funny. I struggle with God over things like that. My uncle was fighting in Germany and the Germans caught him and tortured him. I remember my father saying that he would never talk about it. I know that they allowed them to freeze and gave a group of men only 1 blanket. One of the first books I read when I was searching for God was about Corrie ten Boom. It pretty much scared me.
     
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    Do you mean when all those who believe come to God, the end will come?
     
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    No, I mean when the people are placed in a position where they can no longer resist, control is complete.
     
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    I think that when a person is possessed by Satan that they see glee in evil, it's a madness, that mate I have know from when he was 6yo, he burnt down his dads home and has had mental issues, so with my Christian perspective I gave him a lot of leeway over the years in trying to understand his issues, not only the house thing but others, and many of my mates could not stand him at all.
    I learnt a lot from him in understanding his perspective on the world, it took me some years till the penny dropped as to were he was truly coming from. he truly did not truly care about anyone or God at all, he had no place for such, he seen it as a man made thing to govern people and any who looked to such were the most stupid of all, the lowest of the low in his eyes and his intent is to destroy such, he seen such a threat to himself and his will, so to walk over anyone that he can was so as to further his own position on the ladder and that's what he truly see as greatness. the more wealth a man has is the measure of man ? he truly looks up to all that are more wealthy than he but looks down and despise all below him :rolleyes: and will kick others like such around with glee. I have seen such in many like him in Business and I have seen them crash to the bottom as well. it's a madness the old power trip and it destroys them body and Soul, but they can't see it because they are possessed, they are on a ego trip.

    I can pick such people out now, they are not an enigma anymore and the best thing to do is to have nothing to do with them at all and don't give them the time of day as they are truly not worth it. they are like buzzards or vampires and a curse on all, it would be better for them to put a mill stone around their neck and toss it into the sea.

    Christians have got a hell of a job on their hands and I am sorry to say that hellfire is on the way, the world will reap what it sows.
    If all people would come to Jesus the hellfire would never come.

    Australia is becoming much more Socialist as the political right wing have changed their spots with the last PM that got sacked from the party due to his socialist intentions to drown the party in it. the media ran around claiming what went wrong, they claimed not to understand why he got the sack. The media are living in a fantasy land because they are possessed by Satan. half the party were going to jump ship for crying out loud and they could not see it :rolleyes: are the media all on drugs o_O even in the USA as well.
     
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    We just had another election hear and the media said that he other Party were going to win by far, well no they got it so wrong ! it's the same in the USA with such, the media is out of touch or high on drugs ! I believe that people who take ICE and such as this crap that what happens is that the people become delusional, it's like the common sense part of the brain function is deleted.
     
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    We're pretty much there now. I subscribe to a number of newsletters and prophecy alerts and I'm very troubled by what is going on - it's like America isn't America anymore.
     
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    It sounds like your friend's conscience was seared. I've met people who had no working conscience. The truly terrifying ones aren't the conscienceless in jails - the terrifying ones are those holding respectable positions.

    I'm waiting for God's judgment too - how can it not come? We've sown the wind and will reap the whirlwind. I think we should still do what we can.

    America is moving towards socialism too - and like you, I don't trust the media. I read that more than half of America is on government assistance. That means that less then half of the country is working and supporting the more than half that aren't. The world this next generation is being left isn't a good one - but I know that God hears my prayers and the prayers of many others who ask Him to act.
     
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    You say in another thread that you are studying revelation - and yet you are praying for God to act, and conveying it in a way that you are still waiting. ALL that is happening around us ' Is God acting '
    The very opening chapter in revelation tells us that - you see Satan, change, deceptions ect , and yet fail to see that this is all part of Gods answer to bring people to repentance and ultimately defeat Satan. It isn't Satan who opens the seven seals ect, but Jesus, the things that have been, and are being released within the world are coming from God.
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    You can't have the division in our country, U.S., that we do, and not be divided over the Constitution also. At present it is more about how each side interprets the Constitution. But one day, one side is going to say to hell with the Constitution as they blatantly disagree with it and want to change it.

    It is happened twice in our history. Our original Constitution of 1776, the Articles of Confederation, was tossed out the window in a bloodless coup. Thus establishing the Constitution of 1787 which we are now under. But even that was challenged and after 4 years of war between the states, it was changed to read how the victors wanted.

    Point being, when the division is too great the Constitution will always be set aside.

    Stranger
     
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    That bloke sees himself as being empowered, on top of the heap and sees all he can dupe are just asking for it, so he hates them totally because they were fooled or fell for his game.

    I worked for a company for 4 weeks and met the owner, he was open in saying to me that he spent all his time in court going all over Australia, people are duped into his brochures. and he wins the case easy as pie against them.
     
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    I know that Revelations says that the world will get as in the days of Noah - we know that the world was supposed to get bad. We're told "woe to the earth and sea for the devil has gone down to you in great wrath because he knows his time is short." But we know that ultimately God has the final say. A cursory look around or a review of the news tells us exactly what this world is about now. At the same time however, I'm of the belief that we aren't to throw our hands up and just accept that this was foretold so just accept it. I'm of the belief that we as Christians have a work to do, as Scripture says we're co-laborers with God. A pastor in our bible study said that it's a cop-out when Christians refuse to act to try to make the world a better place; this is what I believe. So I evangelize, contact legislators, and try to do what I can to leave this world a better place.

    I'm a sensitive soul and often feel like Habakuk who looked around and was troubled. We read that Lot's soul was "vexed." What my prayer is to God is a prayer to end it already; I don't know if my prayer is right, wrong, or indifferent but that's what I pray. God says He wants truth in our inmost being so that's what I give Him.

    I see this world as growing uninhabitable. They've flooded our cities with drugs, sent manufacturing out of the country, the middle class is disappearing, they introduce children to sin, and Hollyweird pours out filth. People have become cutthroat and immoral. I don't know how a Christian can not be vexed.
     
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    I never knew that piece of history. But what is going on today is the government gaining power and Americans losing it and Americans appear to be sleepwalking. I read that they have a center where American citizens can be taken and you're not allowed to contact a lawyer or your family. Government employees can keep you locked there indefinitely, and you have absolutely no constitutional protections or rights. The marine that John Whitehead represented made a Facebook post about Obama and was thrown in a psychiatric facility. This has ceased to be America.

    While Americans have been treated to the sideshow of Mueller, the border, etc. even more constitutional protections were taken. From Northwest Liberty News:

    Congress overwhelmingly passed—and President Trump approved—a law allowing warrantless searches of private property for the purpose of “making inspections, investigations, examinations, and testing.”

    For now, the scope of the law is geographically limited to property near the Washington DC Metro system, but mark my words, this is just a way of testing the waters. Under the pretext of ensuring public safety by “inspecting” property in the vicinity of anything that could be remotely classified as impacting public safety, the government could gain access to almost any private property in the country.

    Then President Trump, aided and abetted by his trusty Department of Justice henchman Jeff Sessions and to the delight of the nation’s powerful police unions, rolled back restrictions on the government’s military recycling program.

    What this means is that police agencies, only minimally deterred by the Obama administration’s cosmetic ban on certain types of military gear, can now go hog-wild.

    We’re talking Blackhawk helicopters, machine guns, grenade launchers, battering rams, explosives, chemical sprays, body armor, night vision, rappelling gear, armored vehicles, and tanks.

    Clearly, we’re not in Mayberry anymore.

    Or if this is Mayberry, it’s Mayberry in The Twilight Zone[​IMG].

    Battlefield America Is the New Normal: We’re Not in Mayberry Anymore - NorthWest Liberty News

    I read about a man in Florida who left to settle a family member's estate and when he got back he received a $30,000 bill from the government for "letting his grass grow."

    When did our government get so powerful and why? What happened to a government of the people, by the people, and for the people?

    I urge everyone to read what is happening across America to your fellow Americans at the Rutherford Institute: Overcriminalization, drones, loss of parental rights, surveillance, zero tolerance, search and seizure, religious persecution.

    The Rutherford Institute


     
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    Yes, Federal govt. gaining power and states losing it. Which means individuals lose it. That is exactly what was taking place in 1787 when the Articles of Confederation were thrown out. The Constitution of 1787 gave much more power to the Federal government and took away power from the states. Read up on the Federalists and anti-Federalists debates at that time.

    Then after the War between the States even more power was given to the Federal govt. over the States. This is the root of what the Southern States were fighting against. When we lost, the U.S. lost. They just didn't know it. And they who support Federal govt. have been blowing the same smoke up their backside ever since.

    Stranger
     
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