Cristo Rei
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Fair question i should of been more clear. The original was taken off youtube. Someone else uploaded it again
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Fair question i should of been more clear. The original was taken off youtube. Someone else uploaded it again
Cristo Rei
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The vaccines on the CDC schedule are for diseases that are rare, not deadly and/or treatable and there are hundreds in development
U may be fine with 500 or 1000 vaccines a year but it should never be forced onto anyone against their will
Deborah_
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Deb: the graph and the statistics can easily be pulled up off the internet for the history of the measles. I think even 'Yehren' on this site, actually placed the simplified graph in one of his responses on a thread recently - last couple of weeks. And yes, if you can trust the figures, England and many others still were getting infected in 1962 although at a very much lower rate; it was already near the bottom of the curve from a world perspective and not just from a UK view. It then suddenly dropped off the next year, abruptly. Go figure..nature takes its course
APAK
Vaccinations -
A personal choice.
...As is electing to travel in foreign nations;
...As is schooling at home;
...As is eating food to sustain a healthy body;
...As is being subjected to foreigners who sneak in your own country OOPS
This is a free nation, so, give up your guns, put bars on your windows, lock your doors, stay inside, except for M-F, boot the kiddos out for 8 hours of indoctrination training.
A personal choice.
...As is electing to travel in foreign nations;
...As is schooling at home;
...As is eating food to sustain a healthy body;
...As is
This is a free nation, so, give up your guns, put bars on your windows, lock your doors, stay inside, except for M-F, boot the kiddos out for 8 hours of indoctrination training.
Cristo Rei
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Yes it is an exaggeration for 2020 but not for 2025. How many diseases are there in the world. What if they made one for every one
There are almost 300 vaccines being developed at the moment so 500 is possible by 2025
Have u looked at the case for refusing vaccines or are you siding with the majority?
A huge money $$$ making vaccine machine with no liability for side effects, crippling and deaths....
Deborah_
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So I do that, and see the number of cases oscillating around an average figure up to the introduction of the vaccine, then an abrupt fall to near zero. Go figure... the vaccine worked.
Deborah_
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There is no case for refusing all vaccines on principle. Only a fool would turn down diphtheria, tetanus, polio, whooping cough and rubella.
But each one has its own individual risk/benefit ratio. I don't usually bother with the annual flu vaccine (but I made an exception the year I had to have chemotherapy).
I guess Deborah it is how one understands reading a graph. If you think for one moment that when the first live vaccine for measles was made available in 1963 that suddenly the # of measles cases dropped like an anchor, that could be an unrealistic assumption.
Here's a document that might interest you.
Deborah_
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A drop from 450,000 cases per year (in the USA) to less than 10,000 looks pretty dramatic to me.
Cristo Rei
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I hope it all went well for u with the chemo
I never said to refuse all vaccines. Each one should be assessed individually
That being said there are doctors and scientists that have a case against a lot of vaccines
Anyway u have your mind made up so i won't bother u
I encourage you to look at it from the other side cos their profit margin is more important to them than anyone's health
God Bless
Deborah_
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Hi @Deborah_ Glad the treatment went okay; perhaps the Lord is graciously keeping you here in order to be able to encourage others in the Scriptures further. It's a great Psalm, No. 91.
Back again..just had a flat-tire/tyre in town...had to repair it....
Yes, and where did you get these figures from, they may be legit although does not really tell us the entire story especially when logic and more thought is added in.
Especially when this late 1963 vaccine was not used until the second half of that year. These figures you gave are then for the entire year and not over a couple of years? Does not that make you then suspicious that this vaccine really did all this? It does me. A giant red flag pops up!
And the period to slow down and arrest the spread if it actually did all that, like 'slamming on the brakes,' would realistically have taken a year or more and not weeks within the same year. I take it you believe in the most improbably scenario then if you believe what you suggest...like an anchor? I am much more conservative in my rush to a conclusion of this magnitude...BL I do not believe it for one second...for other reasons that would take too long here and I'm afraid I would sound like a broken record to you.
Did you then read my attachment as this can shed more light on the subject?
Bless you,
APAK
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CDC website - vaccine schedule.
Birth-18 Years Immunization Schedule | CDC
You think that is bad?
Go look up all the people suffering from each illness on YouTube.
Get your kids vaccinated!
Birth-18 Years Immunization Schedule | CDC
You think that is bad?
Go look up all the people suffering from each illness on YouTube.
Get your kids vaccinated!
First of all we need to understand what a vaccine is. It is simply an attenuated or weakened form of the same microorganism which is causing the disease. It is meant to produce antibodies to fight those pathogens within the immune system of every person.
But the same immunity can be acquired by being exposed to the virus or bacteria without a vaccination. That is what herd immunity is. So for COVID-19 the people who were "asymptomatic" (did not show any symptoms but have the pathogen within), naturally produced antibodies. They are very unlikely to infect others.
Flu vaccinations are touted every year, but they are no more than about 40% effective. What does that tell you? Vaccinations in flu-like infections (and coronavirus is another and more dangerous strain of flu) do NOT give anyone 100% immunity. And since vaccines are also known to kill people, that is another risk factor. So all this talk about a vaccine for COVID-19 is more flim-flam.
Commonsense, and ordinary measures such as always washing hands, pasteurizing certain foods, washing fruits and vegetables, avoiding close contact with people you do not know, eating properly, ensuring that essential vitamins and minerals are ingested, regular exercise, proper sleep, etc. are general methods of maintaining one's heath and fighting disease. And God has provided man with a wonderful immune system, which goes to work immediately.
However when there are (1) enemies of America working to destroy America and the free world from without and within, (2) millions of dollars in profits from the sale of vaccines, and (3) globalist elites with a very specific agenda, the whole idea of vaccinations takes on a different cast.
Just as in a criminal investigation the primary question is "Cui bono?" (or "Who Benefits?") ordinary citizens should be asking themselves who benefits most from a pandemic? The next question is "Can you really trust governments today, since the only goal of politicians is to grab power and hold on to it?" A careful investigation into the Democratic agenda since Obama should tell everyone that the only goal of the Democrats and their media lapdogs is to destroy America, by any means possible. And therefore they need power in Washington.
In the early days of vaccinations, the health of those being vaccinated was foremost. Today it may be the exact opposite. It is now well recognized that this worldwide lockdown was not only a mistake, but was designed to give governors and governments unacceptable control over people, while destroying economies. When a woman is jailed in Texas for keeping her business open to feed her family, while hardened criminals are released into society to immediately resume their criminal activities, that is an indication that the government has failed to protect the citizenry, and wants to establish a tyranny.
As far as I'm concerned, President Trump should have issued a COMPREHENSIVE EXECUTIVE ORDER to cover every aspect of the coronovirus pandemic. That should have happened by the end of January, 2020 (regardless of the Democratic nonsense which never stops). Furthermore all passenger flights from anywhere in the world should have been stopped by February 1, and both borders should have been shut down for at least 30 days. Chances are this would have been enough to prevent the panic. fear-mongering, and lockdown. To say nothing of the tyranny of Democratic governors.
Cristo Rei
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No one is stopping you from helping the sick. Instead vaccines are being forced onto the healthy
Me and my family are not sick and therefore do not require any medical treatment thank you
People tend to ignore or forget about the fact that humans have flourished on earth since the dawn of man
And now all of the sudden we need vaccines to survive... It's rubbish...
Without critically looking into the subject, people are just regurgitating their propaganda for them
U want to vaxx urself or your child then go for it, no one is stopping u.
But no should have the power to take away my right to refuse a medical procedure
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