Check the Greek word. It’s “prographó”. It does not mean foreordained.The kjv gives the same meaning as the NIV....written about long ago means the same thing as foreordained. I think also that the kjv gives the more accurate meaning of what is meant by "written about long ago" in the NIV.Tong2020 said: ↑
In this case, the word “ordained” in the KJV is significant. It was from the Greek “prographó:” which means “write before”. The NIV renders it better then.
<<<But you are right in that God does not predetermine that certain people will go to hell.I think that it does in fact speak of predestination to condemnation; according to foreknowledge.Tong2020 said: ↑
And if one reads the passage carefully, there is nothing there speaking of predestination for condemnation.
But you are right in that God does not predetermine that certain people will go to hell.
And that means that God does not predetermine certain people to go to heaven.
For to do one is to also do the other. If God predetermines certain people for heaven, then He predetermines others for hell; whom He did not choose for heaven. They are chosen for hell by default, in that God did not choose them for heaven.
This is an excellent argument for the case of predestination according to foreknowledge rather than predetermination. Because if they are chosen according to foreknowledge, God is not responsible for their condemnation but they are responsible for it. God simply looked down the annals of history and saw that certain people would preach grace as a license for immorality and predetermined that those who do that would receive condemnation.
And that means that God does not predetermine certain people to go to heaven.>>>
It does not necessarily follow.
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