Ronald Nolette
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In which passage? You need to be more specific.Is the word parousia used for His next coming? Is the word parousia used for His coming after your 7-year trib?
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In which passage? You need to be more specific.Is the word parousia used for His next coming? Is the word parousia used for His coming after your 7-year trib?
God's Word doesn't actually call the "day of the Lord" events another 'tribulation' though. Jesus only spoke of one tribulation for the end, the "great tribulation".Mark 13:19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
The word affliction = tribulation.
Strong's # 2347
thlipsis, from 2346; pressure, ( Literally or figuratively); KJV—afflicted, anguish, burdened, persecution, tribulation, trouble.
Tribulation like there never was since the beginning to time.
Now we come to the second tribulation, note it says after that tribulation.
Mark 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
Mark 13:25 and the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
This is the second tribulation, at the 7th trump at the true Christ's return, this is God's tribulation.
Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
If the dead are not risen ,then Christ is not ,and we both know that He has , also how can He bring them with Him if they are not already with Him ?
The Two Witnesses Will Dominate The Entire Tribulation, Something Many Disregard As Non-ExistentGod's Word doesn't actually call the "day of the Lord" events another 'tribulation' though. Jesus only spoke of one tribulation for the end, the "great tribulation".
That "great tribulation" will be experienced two ways, one way for the wicked and deceived, and another way for Christ's elect. For the wicked and deceived, it will be a time of peace and joy for them, as they will be deceived thinking the false-Messiah is God having returned. But for Christ's elect, they will be hunted and persecuted by the beast. So for the wicked and deceived, their brand of tribulation will be about their deception to the wrong one, and their delayed punishment of God's Wrath at Jesus return after the great tribulation. But for Christ's elect, their tribulation will be during the time of the "great tribulation".
Sorry all for not replying for 2 days, but little buddy Bama (Norfolk Terrier who is 15 years old) had 104.4 temp and was shaking for 2 days so I have been busy.Why should anyone believe you over the 100's of others who have used newspaper exegesis to define the bible?
I don't think you get it, we have to take the log out of our eyes in order to reach those who have motes or maybe they have logs also, but the point is, we have to take on Jesus in order to not be petty unto others who have difficulties in life, who sin via their sin nature, as we all do, and you sir with your words even here are being petty. Jesus by the way still jumped down the Pharisees/Religious leaders throats for trying to teach wrong things, via their actions, not their understandings, he stated they knew the truth but the did not practice these truths, rarely did Jesus say they did not understand the bible, he was saying they did not know God in essence, because of how they lived. I do not know you, nor do you know me, so I would never say you are not Christ like or of God, that's a silly supposition from afar, and petty. I however ca an d do say you are not called unto Prophecy, I know this because I am called unto Prophecy. Now, you might be the greatest winner of souls in a 1000 mile radius. But it is apparent you are not called unto prophecy, me saying so is not a swipe at you, its a fact I can see with my eyes via your understandings. Now, if you want to get personal and petty, just remember, that is going to show who you are in the long run, it tells nothing about me because that is not my style, Jesus whist firm did, was not petty even with those he called out, neither will I be like that, I follow Christ, I took my log out over 37 years ago, do you even understand that becoming a Christian is taking out the log?Thanks for pointing out my mote! Now go after your log! You write just like the thousands of other cult leader wannabees! Like so many others you come up with a unique reinterpretation of eschatological subjects and like them claim God gave it to you via special revelation! Let me repeat myself! Horse manure! Ifd that offends you , you need a bit thicker skin. And I am not angry in the least!
Great, that is my point on other prophesies people error on, like Matt. 24:29, IMMEDIALY AFTER the Tribulation of those days does not mean in the middle of the week at the 1260 Day of the Lord God's Wrath, some therefore see this and think God's Wrath or the DOTL is just ONE DAY and thus Jesus returns at thar point, which makes no sense, how can we have 7 Trumps & 7 Vials in one day? But others take it that Jesus only comes at the Second Coming, whilst Jesus never says that, we get a FLASHBACK to the Pre Trib Rapture in Rev. 14:14. The Harvest Chapter. If you have one specific chapter for Harvests, and you give all three, and one is Pre Trib (it is) then you show the Jews (5 million and the code is 144,000) awaiting Jesus in Rev. 14, you show the Wicked Grapes being placed in the Wone-press of God's Wrath in you have to therefore have a FLASHBACK, and we see Jesus from upon a CLOUD Harvesting the Church, which is Pre Trib. But in order to understand this we have to understand how the book of Revelation was written. You have Church Age (2&3) we have Church see in Heaven with Jesus BREFORE the Seals are opened (Rev. 4&5). The Seals are opened in the presence of the Church JUST BEFORE the DOTL or God's Wrath, the 7th Seal ushers in God's Wrath. What confuses everyone is Jesus is Prophesying what happens in Rev. 8, 9 and 16, when the 7th Seal is finally removed from the scroll of Judgments. It also shows what happens during the Anti-Christs rule in chapters 12, 13, and 17, 18 is again what happens via Gods Wrath. Rev. 19 is the Wedding and the Return to the Marriage Supper, which is Armageddon. These are Parenthetical Chapters, the actual Wrath/Judgments are shown in Rev. 8, 9 and 16. Rev. 7 is therefore the Jews fleeing Judea unto Petra. Just before the Trumps (DOTL) start delivering God's 1260 days of Wrath. I am pointing out why I say this, I can use those chapters to show how the book of Revelation unfolds. Its not going to be a different timing than Zechariah brother. God himself wrote it in the GIANT CODBOOK for the ages.Yup! Have taught that for years! even decades now!
No brother, look I understand you are intelligent guy, and well read. But the Time of the Gentiles is not about Kingdoms, people confuse that with the Rev. 11 passage where John was told to Measure the Temple and the Altar and those that dwell therein. Do me a favor, read Romans chapters 9-11, that gives the full picture of what the Time of the Gentiles actually means. I will abbreviate what each chapter means below a wee bit, but first lets look at the Rev. 11 passage that confuses people and I think I can win you over by the mere texts. I will also explain what it actually means.Wrong, Jesus said when the times of the gentiles shall end and it isn't the rapture!
Luke 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
That happens when the antichrist is defeated. He is the final segment of the fourth beast kingdom!
There is disagreement on what it means, some says its the Valley of Meggido, some say it means Jerusalem, it never says Bozrah/Petra to my knowledge. I thibk Jesus goes to Bozrah with stained colored garment, meaning he's already placed the Wicked into the Wine-press of God's Wrath (killed them). NOTICE, I am not as well studied on this, thus I make no claims of certainty on things I have nit been showed by the Spirit, I will look into it deeper. I did an Exegesis on Daniel 11 and 12 for this very reason and it has been very fruitful, showing me the False Prophet will be a Jewish High Priest gone rogue just like Jason was under Antiochus and giving me the UNDERSTANDING of the 1335 and 1290, which are KEY to all End Time Prophecy. The 1335 is the Two-witnesses showing up 1335 days before the Second Coming ENDS ALL THESE WONDERS see in Dan. 11:36-45 and the 1290 is the False Prophet STOPPING Jesus Worship the the 5 Million Jews who repent just before the 1260 middle of the week and then placing an Image of the Beast (E.U. President) up in the Tempe. Israel will join the E.U. that is the Covenant/Agreement spoken of in Dan. 9:27.There is no battle at Armageddon or the valley of Jezreel. It is where the antichrist marshalls His forces to move to Bozrah/Petra to annihilate the Jews!
That is where Jesus returns, defeats the armies of the antichrist alone
Isaiah 63:1-3
King James Version
63 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.
2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?
3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
QUESTION? THINK NOW Brother.......Can God FORETELL about Wrath without it being Wrath? THINK, Joel does it in Joel 2:31 right? Jesus does the EXACT SAME THING via the 6th Seal, that is why Sea, #7 is over in Rev. 8, it OPENS the Judgment Scroll, the Scroll contains these Seven Trumpet Judgments. So, Seal number 6 is Jesus PROPHESYING what God's Wrath will bring just like Joel 2:31 did. THEN we see these things via Trumps 1-4. The Asteroid breaks apart thus FIRE FALLS FIRST, and burns the trees before the Impact. In Trumpet #2 we see THE IMPACT into the Sea. In Trumpet #3 we see the FALLOUT from the poisons whether that be a sulfur fallout like killed the Dinos or some sort of metal that brings a Nuclear like poison, it falls out over North and South America poisoning a 1/3 of the Fresh Waters in these two continents. The 1/3 = North and South America. The Pacific Ocean has 1/3 of the Waters on earth also, thus the 1/3 of the ships and sea creatures that die tell us where it hits.Wrong again! All those verses do not mention Gods wrath even once.
But the opening of the sixth seal (which is a pre trib event) reveals the beginning of teh wrath of god which corresponds to the 70th week of Daniel. Though I cannot e dogmatic, I believe the trumpets are the first half and the bowls are the4 second half.
This simply means AFTER the Tribulation of those days START the Sun and Moon will be darkened. All of this starts on ONE DAY, the day an Asteroid makes impact on the earth. The Sun and Moon go dark after Trumpet #2, as we see in Trumpet #4.Mark 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
NO, it does not... just mean Jesus was pointing only to the sun and moon being darkened.This simply means AFTER the Tribulation of those days START the Sun and Moon will be darkened. All of this starts on ONE DAY, the day an Asteroid makes impact on the earth. The Sun and Moon go dark after Trumpet #2, as we see in Trumpet #4.
For starters, you are quoting a totally different passage that speaks about the Sun and Moon going dark which does happen to happen in the Middle of the Week (70th week) also. The passage you are quoting however ADDS in..........AND THEN............ starting in verse 30, its the same thing basically, except you just do not seem to understand the Sun and Moon goes dark immediately after the Troubles start, AND THEN.......Jesus will show up. TBH, I do not get how Christians can not get the basic understanding of these timelines down, but that is what happens when we can't get the easy concepts like a pre Trib Rapture, which isn't even hard to see, it can be no other time when one understands the End Times timelines (KEY which I keep harping about SMILE), most do not understand these timelines, but think they do. But it is what it is. I guess instead of getting frustrated or mildly irritated I should just start praying over people whose eyes can't see the truths on this.NO, it does not... just mean Jesus was pointing only to the sun and moon being darkened.
It's amazing that you would claim to be a Christian and just CUTOFF Lord Jesus' Word like that!
Matt 24:29-30
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
KJV
All those events in verse 29 are tied together in that SAME timing of "Immediately after the tribulation of those days".
The "And then" phrase ALSO TIES those events of verse 30 to that SAME time, "Immediately after the tribulation".
Missed this, been busy with my sick dog. Think about this brother, how must we all come to God/Christ? By FAITH ALONE, in reality that is all Paul is trying to point out in Gal. 3, they thought they had to become "Jew Like" in order to make heaven because of some Jewish Christians who were peddling false doctrine, the were teaching the Galatians, hey you still have to keep the Laws just like us. Thus Paul lays into them, Oh Foolish Galatians who has bewitched you that coming to God in the faith you now want to live by the flesh (Law)?Israel is not fleeing any where nor protected during the Trumpets. They are all going to be judged and sentenced to their eternal destination standing before Jesus on His throne in Jerusalem.
We are all judged when we receive Christ Jesus, God looks at Jesus' blood, you are speaking about those who go through the Tribulation being judged after Jesus returns, but that, IMHO, is a different Judgment, in Heaven the Bride marries the Lamb via a pre trib rapture, of course there are DEGREES of Judgment, some will live in greater mansions, some are given more because they produced more results on earth, that will be the only Judgment those in Christ receive, we all make heaven via Jesus' blood alone, both murders like Paul and Peter a non murderer are Justified by Faith in Jesus alone, the Judgments are simply Jesus rewarding the people, just like some win the MVP trophy, some the Heisman trophy etc. etc.They are all going to be judged and sentenced to their eternal destination standing before Jesus on His throne in Jerusalem
Not one place in the bible says this, it even says they need PROTECTION !! All of these men's traditions comes from men not understanding the book of Revelation. In spite of me hearing 1000 times these are Super Evangelical Preachers no where in the bible actually says that. Go find it anywhere, I will eat my glasses, SMILE. God even says HOLD UP the Four Winds (Judgment on earth) until I have SEALED the 144,000 in their heads, meaning until they repent and get the exact same Seal we all have as Christians !! He says HURT NOT the Earth, Sea nor Trees until this happens, then as the 7th Seal is opened we see God's Wrath falls and what do the Four Trumps do ? They HURT the Earth, Sea and Trees, its obvious this is God protecting Israel, the 144,000 is a CODE just like 7000 is a CODE, just like Babylon is a CODE just like The Woman in Revelation chapter 12 is a CODE, just like the 7 Candles are a CODE, and the 7 Spirits are a CODE, just like the Harlot is CODE for All False Religion of all time, etc. etc.The 144k are Jesus' disciples on earth, and they are protected.
The passage you tried... to push back to the 4th trumpet in question was Mark 13:19-24. That is error. And that Mark 13 passage is the same Message recorded in the Matthew 24:21-32 passage. The difference was Apostle Mark recorded what he heard Jesus say while with Him upon the Mount of Olives, and Matthew recorded his version what he heard Jesus say then also.For starters, you are quoting a totally different passage that speaks about the Sun and Moon going dark which does happen to happen in the Middle of the Week (70th week) also.
Jesus returns at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. It is the end of the age. The tribulation is over. THEN THE WRATH OF GOD BEGINS. Jesus remains in the clouds at the 6th seal and takes believers to heaven for the marriage supper. Then He returns with the armies of heaven and sets His feet on the mount of Olives.The passage you tried... to push back to the 4th trumpet in question was Mark 13:19-24. That is error. And that Mark 13 passage is the same Message recorded in the Matthew 24:21-32 passage. The difference was Apostle Mark recorded what he heard Jesus say while with Him upon the Mount of Olives, and Matthew recorded his version what he heard Jesus say then also.
And in that Mark 13:24-26 passage, it is very CLEAR that the sun and moon being darkened is AFTER the tribulation Jesus warned in that Chapter...
Mark 13:24-26
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
KJV
Tied with that same AFTER the tribulation timing, is Jesus' future return, which means the END of this present world on the "day of the Lord"!
Thus you are listening to a bunch of doctrines from men, and NOT staying in The Scriptures with that at all.
{{{ Not part of this first ANSWER, but I confused my response to Luke 21 to Mark 13:13-19 below in places, I will not change it because the analysis is still correct, but you never cited verss13-19 only verse 19, which still doesn't match with Matt. 24:29-31, other verses in Mark (verse 25-27) do and I show that, but I am acknowledging I misquoted you below, but the analysis holds up so I will not try to erase it. }}}The passage you tried... to push back to the 4th trumpet in question was Mark 13:19-24. That is error. And that Mark 13 passage is the same Message recorded in the Matthew 24:21-32 passage.
I am correct that Matt. 24:29-31 comes to pass via the Trumpet Judgments, as does Mark 13:19-27. I Notice, now you are saying my reply was about Mark 13:19-24, the same thing applies, verses 25-27 matches Matt. 24:29-31. Yes, it is close to the same, but it is not the same, only Matt. 24:29-31 and Mark 13:25-27 matches up exactly, that is my point. Matt. 24:29 is about the Day of the Lord (Asteroid strike) which comes AFTER the Trouble starts via the violent asteroid impact, because it will take some time for the Sun and Moon to be dimmed, the fires have to burn a few weeks, then the smoke gets up in the Jetstream, then it travels around the world to dim the sun and moons light, AFTER the tribulation of those days [START]. You know what tells you that you have perceived this wrong brother? THEN.....in both passages, WATCH how the word THEN changes everything.That is error. And that Mark 13 passage is the same Message recorded in the Matthew 24:21-32 passage.
There is no difference per se, I was pointing out that without Mark 13:25-27 it can not be the same thing because that is where we get the THEN........Or Jesus' Second Coming, which ENDS the Troubles.The difference was Apostle Mark recorded what he heard Jesus say while with Him upon the Mount of Olives, and Matthew recorded his version what he heard Jesus say then also.
No sir that is just you not using all the available passages, which I did use, to show what it means. Now if you want to go over Zech. 14:1-4, and Dan. 12:1-7 with me line by line, I will do so, my job is not to cast aspersions on anyone's belief but to try and teach men the truths of God. The Lord has rebuked me for not having patience. (Guilty)And in that Mark 13:24-26 passage, it is very CLEAR that the sun and moon being darkened is AFTER the tribulation Jesus warned in that Chapter...
You miss the THEN............Afterwards just like Zech. 14:2 is 3.5 years before Zech. 14:3.Tied with that same AFTER the tribulation timing, is Jesus' future return, which means the END of this present world on the "day of the Lord"!
Like I stated brother, I will go over each verse that proves the TIMING with you. If I only understand one thing in all of life it is the TIMING of End Time Events.Thus you are listening to a bunch of doctrines from men, and NOT staying in The Scriptures with that at all.
You are obviously confused. Mark 13, Matthew 24, and Luke 21, all involve Christ's Olivet discourse of Signs of the End He was giving while with His disciples upon the Mount of Olives. If I quote from Matthew 24 or Mark 13 about the 'same' subject Jesus gave, it is irrelevant to which version I quote, UNLESS there is additional information in one version the other one does not have. In the case of my post, with what I quoted, there is no additional info in one version compared with the other. They are both saying the same thing.ANSWERS BELOW:
They are indeed the same, but if one reads the full passage in Mark 13 to the very end, which I will post below to show why I says this, NOTICE in my post I say they are the same, but you only posted Mark 13:13-19 in your #242 post.
The placing of the "abomination of desolation" per Daniel 9:27 happens in the middle of the symbolic "one week" mentioned there. Per the Daniel 9 seventy weeks prophecy, that symbolic "one week" equals a period of 7 years. So what is the middle of a 7 year period? It is 1260 days, exactly. That is when the Scripture declares the AOD is placed, right AFTER the first 1260 day period, and NOT before.And thus that is mostly JUST BEFORE the DOTL, most do nit understand the AoD happens 30 days BEFORE those troubles begin at the 1260.
No, and what so-called "Trumpet Judgments"? You are obviously confused. The Vials are when God's wrath upon the beast and the wicked are poured out.I am correct that Matt. 24:29-31 comes to pass via the Trumpet Judgments, as does Mark 13:19-27.
Well no... your claim that Mark 13:25-27 matches your 4th Trumpet claim does NOT match.I Notice, now you are saying my reply was about Mark 13:19-24, the same thing applies, verses 25-27 matches Matt. 24:29-31. Yes, it is close to the same, but nit the same, only Matt. 24:29-31 and Mark 13:25-27 matches up exactly, that is my point.
When Lord Jesus died on His cross, the daytime turned dark then also, but it wasn't because of an asteroid. So I think you go too far in your speculation. In the Books of God's prophets, especially Isaiah, we are shown on that "day of the Lord" God's destruction of this present world will be at an 'instant'. What you are describing is like idea out of a National Geographic magazine which is often passed off as real science when it is not (yes I tend to challenge the status quo).Matt. 24:29 is about the Day of the Lord (Asteroid strike which comes AFTER the Trouble starts via the violent asteroid impact, because it will take some tine for the Sun and Moon to be dimmed, the fires have to burn a few weeks, then the smoke gets up in the Jetstream, then it travels around the world to dim the sun and moon light, AFTER the tribulation of those days [START]. You know what tells you that you have perceived this wrong brother? THEN.....in both passages, WATCH how the word THEN changes everything.
Nah... you are ADDING to the Scripture.SAME THING HAPPENS HERE.....
Zech. 14:1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
The THEN in Zech. 14:3 is also 1260 days AFTER Zech. 14:2 where Israel is conquered by the A.C. !!
Jesus returns at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. It is the end of the age. The tribulation is over.
That is true, BUT.............there are different segments via each. For instance Matt. 24 speaks about the 70th week in some verses, about the Church Age in some verses and about 70 AD in some verses. So, I assume they all speak about these same three things since they all refer to Jesus' Olivet Discourse. In Matt. 24:4-6 we see the 70 AD verses, in verses 7-14 we see the Church Age verses even though it is mainly telling the Disciples how to survive, the Church Age verses is to instill in them what has to come before the end comes. Thus as Jesus says in verses 4-6 the End (70th week) is by and by or later on. As 14 shows that end only comes after the Churches mission is complete. Then we get the AoD and Israel fleeing Judea just before the Wrath of God hits in verses 15-20, then in verses 21-31 we get the Great Tribulation/Jacobs Troubles and the Return of Jesus to end those troubles. So, its not all the same timings brother, that's my point, this different versions in the different Gospels have to be MATCHED UP TOGETHER to get a proper contextual understanding. You can't speak about a portion of Mark that is talking about the AoD and fleeing as being the same as Matt. 24:29-31, its not, one happens at the 1290, 30 days BEFORE those troubles start, the other is about the Sun and Moon which becomes Darkened 30 days later, then verse 31 is about Jesus' return 1260 days after the Sun and Moon troubles start via the Asteroid Impact (DOTL) events kick off. So, like I stated, I agree, in total they all say the same thing, but each verse has different portions in time they are speaking about. That is why Matt. 24 speaks about false christs in vs. 5 (70 AD) and vs. 11 speaks about false prophets (the Disciples had to overcome those Greek and Romans who were angry their gods were being forsaken because of the Gospel of Jesus Christ !! Thus those false prophets had the Disciples killed !! Then in verse 24 we see THE Anti-Christ and THE False Prophet of the 70th week being spoken about. So, in each instance it represented a DIFFERENT TIME-FRAME !!You are obviously confused. Mark 13, Matthew 24, and Luke 21, all involve Christ's Olivet discourse of Signs of the End He was giving while with His disciples upon the Mount of Olives. If I quote from Matthew 24 or Mark 13 about the 'same' subject Jesus gave, it is irrelevant to which version I quote, UNLESS there is additional information in one version the other one does not have. In the case of my post, with what I quoted, there is no additional info in one version compared with the other. They are both saying the same thing.
No it doesn't if you are saying at the 1290, yes its in the MIDST of the week but not in the exact middle of the week, we know this by reading Daniel 12 brother. So, the Angel asks this question in verse 6, "How long until all these wonders end?" (The Daniel 11:36-45 WONDERS Daniel had just been shown). And Jesus (Man in Linen) answers with 1260 days, because the Anti-Christ of Dan. 11:36-45 rules for 1260 days, thus we now know he meant that the Messiah (himself) would show up to end the Anti-Christs rein after he had ruled for 1260 days. (NOW THE KEY.......to all end time understandings) Why do we think that Daniel asks the EXACT SAME QUESTION as the Angel did in verse 8, but the answer is not using the exact same formula ? Via Jesus' Second Coming ENDING THESE WONDERS !! Watch the question by Daniel:The placing of the "abomination of desolation" per Daniel 9:27 happens in the middle of the symbolic "one week" mentioned there.
I agree it is one week or 7 years, the midst is the midst and the middle is the exact middle, where you get offtracked is thinking (I assume like many others) the 1290 comes after the 1260, it doesn't nor can it, I explained why above, this is deep stuff, if one grasps it they will understand all end time prophecy, the 1260, 1290 and 1335, or should I say the 1335, the 1290 and the 1260 are the KEY to understanding all End Time Prophecy !! Amen.Per the Daniel 9 seventy weeks prophecy, that symbolic "one week" equals a period of 7 years. So what is the middle of a 7 year period? It is 1260 days, exactly. That is when the Scripture declares the AOD is placed, right AFTER the first 1260 day period, and NOT before.
Your reading of Dan.12:11-12 about the 30 days idea is per a doctrine of men, and is not in keeping with the timings given in that Daniel 12 Chapter. The 1290 days is about the time AFTER the latter 1260 days. It is pointing to after Christ's future return. And then the blessing of those who reach the 1335 days is about those who will serve Christ at His table with the new sanctuary built after His future return, per Ezekiel 40 thru 47.
None of that is right. Jesus returns at the 7thn trump,
not the 6th seal. The 6th seal only describes the 7th trump return.
The trib doesn't even start until the 6th trump.
No seal has been opened.By then all the seals were opened long ago and the first 5 trumps have sounded.
The great tribulation is over before any trumpets sound. The trumpets are the wrath of GodThe 6th trump is the GT,
The 7th trumpet is the end of the wrath of God.and the 7th is the second coming which is when the wrath of God begins, Rev 11.