Do you think only people aged 25 should be allowed to use and own guns?

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Should the legal age to use guns be increased to 25?


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You know, Most 18 year olds shouldn’t vote anyway. They’re pretty much still young and stupid and vote on emotion rather than logic. They do have soft heads that absorb information and maybe gun training at a young age would help. I dunno.

Perhaps, but we still allow people their age to go off into war, to train lethal weapons there and then go off to kill and die for the Grand Old Flag. Vietnam was before my time, but that was how things worked, was it not, conscription of teenagers and everything? So then, the Democrats might say they are too immature to join, or that we have to "protect" them, and then we'd have to reassess and restructure our entire military, with people 18-24 unable to legally join their ranks also, which would have a huge impact. 25-year-olds are still quite young, I guess, compared to older folks, but they are arguably somewhat past their prime years. That might also affect our military advantage against countries such as China and Russia, who do widely use young soldiers in their huge armies.

But, yes, I agree, I think after all these shocking deaths, it is obvious that America's young population is in a spiritual crisis. And it saddens me so much that we cannot seem to find an easy way to help heal their broken souls. Yet, was this society's fault, or was this their own responsibility? :(

You see how difficult this is? Changing anything right now could easily trigger, impact and affect a hundred other things - for better or worse.

P.S. Wow! The website suddenly changed its old design. Why was this so, what do most people here feel about this change?
 
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Most of these mass murders involve immature kids 16-22.

I wrote this six months ago:
Okay, up front, I am on the Right.
There are three facets of this dilemma:
1. SATAN is in control of the world for a short time and he is having a field day. The gun is not evil, it is the person who pulls the trigger and he is being strongly influenced by Satan.
2. The Second Amendment is antiquated. Hold on my fellow Right-wingers! This law was made centuries ago during a time when 15 year old boys could run their fathers farm and knew all the business. They were responsible young men amd probably all could handle a gun at that age.
They were more mature. Today, psychologists say the average boy turns into a man at age 30. Yes there are exceptions, but kids are nowhere near as responsible and I shouldn't have to go into the vast problems of our troubled youths. They are playing games, not doing chores or working but milking their parents instead of cows.
Do you know that you have to be 27 years old to rent a jet ski in Texas. Why? Younger "men" are irresponsible, wild, sometimes dangerous. You have to be 25 years old to rent a car too. Car insurance drops at the age 25. Yet, you can buy a deadly weapon without training at a young age? Hello!
3. Kids are killing people with play guns on video for entertainment! And they like it. They want to get a bigger rush ... make it real, esoecually when they can't control their temper. Then Satan gets a foothold.

Solutuon >>>> 1. Up the age to at least 25 years old to purchase a gun AND require education and training classes, and a legal certificate similar to a drivers license. Unless you were in the military or you are a policeman.
>>>>> 2. Ban all violent video games that involve killing people.

We require education and training to get certain jobs and we should require the same to buy a gun ... unless of course you can prove that at 15 years old you ran your father's farm.
+ A pre- psychological profile should be included before training is approved. Three signatures from family members swearing under oath that you are not a violent person. Someone who is prone to bar brawls, beating their wife, often flying off the handle and losing their cool, should be considered a high risk and denied.
 

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The Demoncrats are NEVER correct. Just ignore them. They simply want total control over everyone so that they can promote tyranny shamelessly. But if citizens own guns, the tyrants have to be afraid. Lawlessness is a Democrat specialty, but they love to project their evil deeds on to others.
Still, I do think the gun violence problem in schools is not something that we as Christians can ignore. And it's not helping Republicans' national and international image either; these mass shootings and then the NRA are just making conservatives appear more insensitive and heartless to many moderate people.

Maybe there are other factors, as I mentioned. Perhaps it's due to heavy drug addiction, perhaps it's due to severe mental illness in young Americans; perhaps it's due to widespread cultural violence in movies and video games, I'm not sure. But some Republicans waving guns after elementary school children are dying does seem a bit in bad taste.

I just feel so helpless sometimes...it's like America is struggling with "spiritual cancer" that we cannot get rid of by ourselves. :(
 

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Still, I do think the gun violence problem in schools is not something that we as Christians can ignore.
Agreed. But this issue was ignored for almost 50 years by ALL LEVELS of government. Talk is cheap. But every time after the dust settled, there was no national program to ensure that the children and teachers in every school were safe from crazy students or mentally unstable people. Given the advances in technology and the billions of dollars thrown down the drain by all governments , it would have been a simple matter to ensure that (1) no student could bring a lethal weapon or drugs onto the school grounds, (2) no criminal or drug pusher could enter the school grounds or school buildings without being detected and detained, and (3) that all school rooms were under constant surveillance to ensure that there was no bad behavior within the school.

At the same time, both parents and teachers had the responsibility to teach children right from wrong, and also ensure that the schools were not indoctrinating their kids with Communism, sexual perversion, drugs, etc.
 

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Agreed. But this issue was ignored for almost 50 years by ALL LEVELS of government. Talk is cheap. But every time after the dust settled, there was no national program to ensure that the children and teachers in every school were safe from crazy students or mentally unstable people. Given the advances in technology and the billions of dollars thrown down the drain by all governments , it would have been a simple matter to ensure that (1) no student could bring a lethal weapon or drugs onto the school grounds, (2) no criminal or drug pusher could enter the school grounds or school buildings without being detected and detained, and (3) that all school rooms were under constant surveillance to ensure that there was no bad behavior within the school.

At the same time, both parents and teachers had the responsibility to teach children right from wrong, and also ensure that the schools were not indoctrinating their kids with Communism, sexual perversion, drugs, etc.

Are you an older American, Enoch? Do you remember how things were back in the day -- for example, was gun violence much less of a problem on the news when you were growing up?

I think it's strange, because as American society has gone drastically more left-wing and secular, materialistic, the gun violence problem has only worsened. So I think it is again a spiritual crisis.

Tulsi Gabbard, now hated as a "traitor" to the Democrats by her former party, said as much, and I mostly agree with her.
 
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Do you remember how things were back in the day -- for example, was gun violence much less of a problem on the news when you were growing up?
Mass shootings were a rarity back in the day. And overall gun violence was also rare. One could walk the streets of any American city without feeling threatened with random acts of violence. All that changed after Democrats began taking control of the cities, while whites moved out and other ethnic groups and ethnic mafias took control.
 
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Mass shootings were a rarity back in the day. And overall gun violence was also rare. One could walk the streets of any American city without feeling threatened with random acts of violence. All that changed after Democrats began taking control of the cities, while whites moved out and other ethnic groups and ethnic mafias took control.
In QLD Australia the left Governments worked towards tying the Police hands to be able to convict many criminals and before that the lefty's worked full on to threaten the Government, so the Government and Police lived in total fear and had to let many lawless people run amuck. They turned a blind eye to such people.
So we had people who were total criminals protected by the system, harassment was one ! so such who would steal everyday could not be investigated by Police and people in my school would tell us all what they stole and just laugh about it all as they could not be convicted.

We have young morons nowadays who get into ones house and steal the car keys and go thrash that car smash it up burn it and get no big deal. so they are out the next day doing just the same.
But wealthy people and low life are fine with the system as it is, the wealthy have a spot of bother with the car being stolen but get a new one from insurance so they could not care at all really. So you see the delusional snobs backing the low life up, as they are informed of some BS story etc.

When talking to them class mates back in the days they knew the system better than anyone in fact who or witch Judge to not go before and how to delay to get another Judge and what Court to be tried under etc etc how to play the system and laugh about it all as if it was all a big joke. They dealt with such all their lives, if it was not them it was learning from others of the same ilk. Some times they even ended up in Jail ! a 500 to 1 chance say.
But all the idiots of society supported such a system as most would not have a clue about the reality's.

Give any predator an inch and such will take a mile ! it's a fact regardless be it low or high in society ! The MSM will not point such out !

We had a police sergeant of a real bad Town on TV and the worst family in town got the Media on their side and were filming and one dog went for the Sergeants keys for everything and ran off flat out but the Sergeant just managed to grab the moron. and then the moron was on the ground screaming and fighting full on ! but the Media low life dog made out it was the police who were in the wrong ? typical !
But if the dog did get the keys the Sergeant would be in huge trouble and the Media would hang the Sergeant for such as well.
The Media are such low life idiots. They should be exposed by the Police and Government but the top end of town is so corrupt. We seen the same with child molesters getting off free for how many years, not only that but full on totally protected by the Mob up the very top in fact.
 
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Mass shootings were a rarity back in the day. And overall gun violence was also rare. One could walk the streets of any American city without feeling threatened with random acts of violence. All that changed after Democrats began taking control of the cities, while whites moved out and other ethnic groups and ethnic mafias took control.
Things seem to be breaking down so quickly right now...I am not sure if it is to herald something better or worse. There is so much violence and crime in my state right now that if I had the means to do so, I would likely move away. I kind of want to move to Kansas, actually, I loved this show set in rural Kansas in the early 2000s, Smallville, and watching episodes would remind me of much simpler times, when American society seemed much less hostile and complicated. :(

 

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Most of these mass murders involve immature kids 16-22.

The Second Amendment is antiquated. Hold on my fellow Right-wingers! This law was made centuries ago during a time when 15 year old boys could run their fathers farm and knew all the business. They were responsible young men amd probably all could handle a gun at that age.
They were more mature. Today, psychologists say the average boy turns into a man at age 30. Yes there are exceptions, but kids are nowhere near as responsible and I shouldn't have to go into the vast problems of our troubled youths. They are playing games, not doing chores or working but milking their parents instead of cows.
Do you know that you have to be 27 years old to rent a jet ski in Texas. Why? Younger "men" are irresponsible, wild, sometimes dangerous. You have to be 25 years old to rent a car too. Car insurance drops at the age 25. Yet, you can buy a deadly weapon without training at a young age? Hello!
3. Kids are killing people with play guns on video for entertainment! And they like it. They want to get a bigger rush ... make it real, esoecually when they can't control their temper. Then Satan gets a foothold.

Solutuon >>>> 1. Up the age to at least 25 years old to purchase a gun AND require education and training classes, and a legal certificate similar to a drivers license. Unless you were in the military or you are a policeman.
>>>>> 2. Ban all violent video games that involve killing people.

We require education and training to get certain jobs and we should require the same to buy a gun ... unless of course you can prove that at 15 years old you ran your father's farm.
+ A pre- psychological profile should be included before training is approved. Three signatures from family members swearing under oath that you are not a violent person. Someone who is prone to bar brawls, beating their wife, often flying off the handle and losing their cool, should be considered a high risk and denied.

But as I shared, some states literally still allow parents to teach their 10-year-old girls to use rifles and lethal weapons. That does seem fairly unique to American society, it must be said. I mean, who would let your 5th grade daughter use something like that? (Although I suppose, an argument could be made similarly to playing musical instruments, that it's actually "better" to teach your children such essential skills early on while they are still able to easily ingrain and absorb them.)

And if you do agree to increase the legal gun age, what about, for example, drinking and military age? Should they also be similarly increased, or are they different?
 

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There has been a massive surge in gun violence over the past year or so, and in truth, I found the incident with the elementary school deaths particularly harrowing and disturbing.

Some Democrats have been loudly calling for the legal age to be raised to 25, in order to help "prevent" future deaths. I don't know how I feel towards this, exactly. I do think young people should be taught life skills and personal responsibility from early on if possible, but today's generation is so immature and sheltered and attached to their parents well after college that perhaps they aren't mature enough to use lethal weapons. I was discussing this with a friend of mine a while ago, over whether teenagers should be allowed to use weapons or not.

I know that in the U.S. and Europe, for example, it was very common even 30 or 40 years ago, for lots of teenagers to move out, get a job and start a family after basic education, but it seems much less commonplace today. And I do think that America has one of the higher drinking ages at the age of 21, while Europeans are much more lenient in that regard.
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And yet, we still allow young men to join the military even at age 17, and still try teenagers as adults for very serious crimes, including very recently. And 30 states permit children before they are teenagers to use guns:
"In 30 states, it’s legal for a child to possess a rifle or shotgun, which advocates say teaches them to use guns responsibly – but critics see it laying a path for danger."
My first rifle: how young is too young to operate a gun?

So my point is, American laws and norms seem to be all the over the place, and are extremely confusing and contradictory sometimes. So regarding this specific issue, do you think the Democrats are correct, guys? I mean, should the age be increased to 25 or not? Would that help prevent future deaths by gun violence?

Well this would definitely put a huge damper on the number of people in the armed forces if they could not legally own or use guns till they are 25!

If teh nation can let 18 year olds put their lives on the line defending this nation- then they should be able to legally own a gun.
 

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Still, I do think the gun violence problem in schools is not something that we as Christians can ignore. And it's not helping Republicans' national and international image either; these mass shootings and then the NRA are just making conservatives appear more insensitive and heartless to many moderate people.

Maybe there are other factors, as I mentioned. Perhaps it's due to heavy drug addiction, perhaps it's due to severe mental illness in young Americans; perhaps it's due to widespread cultural violence in movies and video games, I'm not sure. But some Republicans waving guns after elementary school children are dying does seem a bit in bad taste.

I just feel so helpless sometimes...it's like America is struggling with "spiritual cancer" that we cannot get rid of by ourselves. :(
The state has the power to stop that in it's tracks .....Republican or Democrat ...if the demand involves saving the lives of those that have not been aborted ...I'm all for arming the schools. Uvalde was an example of a School Administration that allowed the teachers, police, courts and Adminiistrators to disregard the rules. That door was damaged, the lock was broken and a teacher had propped open the door .....How about, door cannot be repaired at this time ....it is chained and padlocked if there arre multipe other routes out of the building. Otherwise put an armed officer in front of the door...

Think, react ....Rule One ....The safety of all inside. Rule Two.....When in doubt, refer to rule ONE. The shooting in Florida was one county gone rogue ....All involved in that failure .....gone. The Sheriff, Deputies on duty, School Officials ....Every school in Florida now has a Community Officer on duty ....For those foreign to the concept .....That is a Sheriff Deputy assigned to the school. When school classes begin ....All doors locked from the inside ...Parkland demonstrated the need to lock them down ....

Democrats would rather turn the schools into shooting galleries without protections. I went to school surrounded by barbed wire the entire K-12 experience ......That happens on military bases ....We were also surrounded by plenty of fully armed military police .....looking for a fight. Why not a little money to protect that those that survived the initial wishes of one element of our society?

The gun is not the problem. It's the idiot with the gun in his/her hand.

Unless your name is Alec Baldwin ....and you forget where your trigger finger was located ....
 
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But as I shared, some states literally still allow parents to teach their 10-year-old girls to use rifles and lethal weapons. That does seem fairly unique to American society, it must be said. I mean, who would let your 5th grade daughter use something like that? (Although I suppose, an argument could be made similarly to playing musical instruments, that it's actually "better" to teach your children such essential skills early on while they are still able to easily ingrain and absorb them.)

And if you do agree to increase the legal gun age, what about, for example, drinking and military age? Should they also be similarly increased, or are they different?
When I was 17, CT. lowered the drinking age to 18 and I was getting into bars. Fortunately I never did anything stupid.
A few years later they realized that wasn't a good idea so they changed it back to 21.
There are many responsible young adult drinkers and some jerks who actually hurt themselves and other people, even kill people in car accidents. An alcoholic or drunkard may decide to drive no matter what age he/she is and kill somebody. This happens. Are they any better than an irresponsible youth with a gun? A car is a lethal weapon. But usually it is not premeditated murder. Still, alcohol destroys lives aside from accidental deaths.
I would be in favor of a two drink limit law in bars or one shot/ beer per hour, no matter what your tolerant level is. My limit is two and I give it more than two hours. This won't happen though, people like there freedom. Frankly if they want to get drunk, they should go home and drink till they pass out - the fool!
I mentioned military or police work, they are trained to handle a gun - like everyone should be required to. Still, I think the age of 25 plus training would be a wise law.
 

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When I was 17, CT. lowered the drinking age to 18 and I was getting into bars. Fortunately I never did anything stupid.
A few years later they realized that wasn't a good idea so they changed it back to 21.
There are many responsible young adult drinkers and some jerks who actually hurt themselves and other people, even kill people in car accidents. An alcoholic or drunkard may decide to drive no matter what age he/she is and kill somebody. This happens. Are they any better than an irresponsible youth with a gun? A car is a lethal weapon. But usually it is not premeditated murder. Still, alcohol destroys lives aside from accidental deaths.
I would be in favor of a two drink limit law in bars or one shot/ beer per hour, no matter what your tolerant level is. My limit is two and I give it more than two hours. This won't happen though, people like there freedom. Frankly if they want to get drunk, they should go home and drink till they pass out - the fool!
I mentioned military or police work, they are trained to handle a gun - like everyone should be required to. Still, I think the age of 25 plus training would be a wise law.

That is interesting. I read a poll that said even lots of Republicans would support raising the legal age to 25 (I think it was after some of the recent tragic violence, which was VERY shocking and grisly), at least until people learn how to grow up and not go crazy with such weapons. So perhaps it WOULD be a good idea for now to set it to 25; then when things calm down, perhaps we could discuss changing it back (perhaps). Personally, I think a gun even in America should be a PRIVILEGE and a RESPONSIBILITY, more so than a right for everyone.

The same thing with drugs also!! Ban them at the VERY least for everyone under 25!!

Older people also feel that today's Americans growing up are NOT those of the "Greatest Generation" in any shape, way or form, and I cannot help but agree with them, unfortunately. :(
 
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Yea, you're right, I suppose it would be much better to live somewhere much more civilized, such as Australia, where your police can beat, and or molest you a little bit with their billy clubs, if you happen to go outside, and take your face mask off for a minute to smoke a cigarette, because of your Gestapo and Waffen SS covid culture demonic government practices. Oh yea, you guys are so much more civilized than us, that I would compare Australia to the Dark Ages, if the actual dark ages wouldn't be so insulted.

And also I can see in Australia you apparently love Strawman and Red Herring arguments, rather than the truth. Maybe, and just maybe, all of the violence hear now, and for quite some time in fact, might be due to the birth pains of the tribulation, rather than a self defence culture designed to keep our government in check, while as you say has bigger guns than us, but we have so many more than they do. And that was how it was designed to keep them in check, to give them pause before they tried such. But as I said, the times are so evil, that that is why society as a whole worldwide is slowly beginning to unravel.

China has said the greatest civil rights violation is the civilian ownership of guns. So I suppose we could give into the rest of the mindless lemmings civilized world, and give up our guns, and let China and the NWO, one world Antichrist world rule, be set in place just that much sooner, and let China take over, and round us up like how they treat their Muslims, etc.., or weld us in apartment complexes so that if covid doesn't get us, a building fire might, or worst of all, once China takes over, they may ship us all off to a penal colony, say like Australia.

And in the end, it doesn't matter that it might be China, as the NWO currently seems to hope for, or something else in the end, because they hope for a communist one world rule in the end, but again what does matter is that if we give up our guns, we might wind up in that worst scenario of all, of being shipped to a penal colony such as Australia, where the police might give us a colonoscopy with their night sticks, if we venture outside and momentarily take our covid face masks off to have a cigarette.


So thanks, but no thanks, I won't be lectured on Civilization by an Australian, ever.
 

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Now that we’ve the mythical unicorn to death.
Let’s try realities.

Based on the left wing reporting system….mass shootings range anywhere from 256 to over 600.

Of all those shootings…How many involved a lone gunman?

Answer…. 7

It’s like unarmed black men shot by police. BLM and the wild left claim dozens if not hundreds.

Actually …no unicorns ….9

I agree one lone gun man shooting multiple victims is too much. Isn’t it odd that when Guilianni was Mayor of NYC there were ZERO. Stop and frisk worked ….worked well.

Uvalde doesn’t happen if the Principle has that door fixed the day the lock broke. Now he along with others are being sued. Worst case, put an armed officer at that door.

Parkland, the Police Chief, DA from Chicago should be in prison. Their failed policies opened the door to that crime.

Orlando, Parkland, Uvalde, Las Vegas, Buffalo. One lone shooter.

Why worry about a mass shooting by multiple gang members shooting at each other? They generally miss far more than they hit.

But it gets registered as a mass shooting. Separate from fiction, let’s then talk realities.
 

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There has been a massive surge in gun violence over the past year or so, and in truth, I found the incident with the elementary school deaths particularly harrowing and disturbing.

Some Democrats have been loudly calling for the legal age to be raised to 25, in order to help "prevent" future deaths. I don't know how I feel towards this, exactly. I do think young people should be taught life skills and personal responsibility from early on if possible, but today's generation is so immature and sheltered and attached to their parents well after college that perhaps they aren't mature enough to use lethal weapons. I was discussing this with a friend of mine a while ago, over whether teenagers should be allowed to use weapons or not.

I know that in the U.S. and Europe, for example, it was very common even 30 or 40 years ago, for lots of teenagers to move out, get a job and start a family after basic education, but it seems much less commonplace today. And I do think that America has one of the higher drinking ages at the age of 21, while Europeans are much more lenient in that regard.
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And yet, we still allow young men to join the military even at age 17, and still try teenagers as adults for very serious crimes, including very recently. And 30 states permit children before they are teenagers to use guns:
"In 30 states, it’s legal for a child to possess a rifle or shotgun, which advocates say teaches them to use guns responsibly – but critics see it laying a path for danger."
My first rifle: how young is too young to operate a gun?

So my point is, American laws and norms seem to be all the over the place, and are extremely confusing and contradictory sometimes. So regarding this specific issue, do you think the Democrats are correct, guys? I mean, should the age be increased to 25 or not? Would that help prevent future deaths by gun violence?
First of all, you go from "some Democrats" to "the Democrats", which is inaccurate and a gross distortion. Also, your comment that "today's generation is so immature and sheltered and attached to their parents well after college that perhaps they aren't mature enough to use lethal weapons" is likewise inaccurate and a gross distortion.

Now, let's get real. a) There is a problem with gun violence in this country. I don't think that many people, regardless of their political affiliation, approve of the current situation. b) The misuse of guns clearly needs to be addressed. There are different ideas about how to do this, and the solutions are not unique to either political party. c) It seems that you have a problem with "today's generation" Writing "today's generation is so immature and sheltered and attached to their parents well after college that perhaps they aren't mature enough to use lethal weapon" is a) absurd and b) conflating a hypothetical group with the misuse of a gun.

If you can't be rational, then there is no room for discussion.
 

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That is interesting. I read a poll that said even lots of Republicans would support raising the legal age to 25 (I think it was after some of the recent tragic violence, which was VERY shocking and grisly), at least until people learn how to grow up and not go crazy with such weapons. So perhaps it WOULD be a good idea for now to set it to 25; then when things calm down, perhaps we could discuss changing it back (perhaps). Personally, I think a gun even in America should be a PRIVILEGE and a RESPONSIBILITY, more so than a right for everyone.

The same thing with drugs also!! Ban them at the VERY least for everyone under 25!!

Older people also feel that today's Americans growing up are NOT those of the "Greatest Generation" in any shape, way or form, and I cannot help but agree with them, unfortunately. :(
Would you and Ralph David Bruno care to discuss the thread's topic instead of going off on a tangent?
 

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Yea, you're right, I suppose it would be much better to live somewhere much more civilized, such as Australia, where your police can beat, and or molest you a little bit with their billy clubs, if you happen to go outside, and take your face mask off for a minute to smoke a cigarette, because of your Gestapo and Waffen SS covid culture demonic government practices. Oh yea, you guys are so much more civilized than us, that I would compare Australia to the Dark Ages, if the actual dark ages wouldn't be so insulted.

And also I can see in Australia you apparently love Strawman and Red Herring arguments, rather than the truth. Maybe, and just maybe, all of the violence hear now, and for quite some time in fact, might be due to the birth pains of the tribulation, rather than a self defence culture designed to keep our government in check, while as you say has bigger guns than us, but we have so many more than they do. And that was how it was designed to keep them in check, to give them pause before they tried such. But as I said, the times are so evil, that that is why society as a whole worldwide is slowly beginning to unravel.

China has said the greatest civil rights violation is the civilian ownership of guns. So I suppose we could give into the rest of the mindless lemmings civilized world, and give up our guns, and let China and the NWO, one world Antichrist world rule, be set in place just that much sooner, and let China take over, and round us up like how they treat their Muslims, etc.., or weld us in apartment complexes so that if covid doesn't get us, a building fire might, or worst of all, once China takes over, they may ship us all off to a penal colony, say like Australia.

And in the end, it doesn't matter that it might be China, as the NWO currently seems to hope for, or something else in the end, because they hope for a communist one world rule in the end, but again what does matter is that if we give up our guns, we might wind up in that worst scenario of all, of being shipped to a penal colony such as Australia, where the police might give us a colonoscopy with their night sticks, if we venture outside and momentarily take our covid face masks off to have a cigarette.


So thanks, but no thanks, I won't be lectured on Civilization by an Australian, ever.
You ever seen the Simpsons cartoon of when they went to Australia.
It shows the real Australian flag, it just has shown on it an arse and a boot on it. That was back in the days of the real Australia.
Poor Bart got in strife in Australia and was going to get the boot in the arse for punishment, but they refused.

One of my Abo mates had on his fridge, Australia had a black past and has a black future.

When I was in grade 3 we moved up north Queensland and from day one all I did was have to fight day in day out with morons, who wanted to have a go, I would be ready for such 24/7 a town full of idiots who would fight for no good reason at all.
They said they were just trying to get their 10cents worth, you get places like that about the place.
The cops did nothing until the fighting was over, you would see them sitting in the cop car and then they would come in, they were not stupid ! The cops did not have guns back in them days.

People say where I live now is a bad place for thugs, They have no idea at all if they think this place is bad. I say hey If you think that, go to X, Y, and Z etc and see how you go.

It's always been the Media protecting all of the lowlife, aiding them to be morons. I have seen such my whole life.
If The grubs go to jail they only come out worse.
They create such idiots ! Aiding and abetting all of the morons, that's what the Media do. Or they would be out of a job otherwise.
Same with the cops, we have too many cops, but it's all the red tape etc that is the real problem, we could get by with 1/4 if they were allowed to truly Police. Same with the Justice system being clogged up with so much Political Correctness nonsense that it can not truly function, the Police can not truly really function as well, because of criminal intent of the Governments and the top Police that is so corrupt and have it all stich up, just like they has with all the priest child molesters for years, the criminal intent goes right to the top and the cops down from their could not do anything about it. or they were targeted from right up the top !

This has all been planed by Communist working away for years, who have opened the doors for all such to happen. so society would crumble and then the Communist can take over, morons are easy to dominate over.
Clearly Society has been setup to fail !
Sadly most people do not understand the workings of Satan.
 
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Do you think only people aged 25 should be allowed to use and own guns?​

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No. Children should be taught “about” guns and “teens” should be taught how to use a gun”.
 

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It's amazing that some of us had a gun or guns in the house when we were born. Still have a gun or guns in the house today ....My gun never got up and shot anyone by itself....

I took my step son to the shooting range to learn how to shoot. My instruction was "Do not touch that gun untl I tell you to do so." I turned for a moment, looked and to my dismay ......he was twirling the gun in his fingers. "Set that gun on the table. We are packing to leave, now." I walked him to each position on the firing line and made him apologize for his mishandling the gun. We packed and left.

I took him about two miles down the road and into a McDonald's. Over lunch ....I said "Look, I know I joke about almost everything. I do not joke about guns. You can never take that bullet back .....no matter how much you pray ....it doesn't come back." "We are going to eat lunch. Then we are going back to the shooting range. Do what I tell and listen as we do this ....No matter what anyone tells you, you handle that gun as if were fully loaded. More unloaded guns accidently kill more people than anyone wants to think of. If I ever point a gun at a person, it is my intent to kill that person .....You never want to go through that experience ...."
 
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