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The first virus in history to cause unnatural separation and the muzzling of people

Social Distancing and the use of masks to prevent the spread of the virus are measures based NOT on true science. They are more about what you find in a mandatory course on political science that emphasizes effective tools for authoritarianism and population control.

This then is the so-called science and basis used and the political justification for a 6 foot or 2 meter physical separation or social distancing (SD) and the use of masks between two people for this current active ‘new’ virus.

When a person coughs or sneezes with or without a barrier over their mouth or nose to halt it, virus infected water droplets or even more energetic finer particle mists from the lungs or throat are generated and settles to the ground or at feet of another person 6 feet away or lingers in the air within a few feet to even more than 6 feet away from the other person.

This lingering virus embedded in water/vapor of fine mist though is the major spanner or wrench thrown naturally into the works that is a clear and unavoidable problem with SD and even the use of masks to combat the new virus or any other virus for that matter.

They, the medical ‘experts’ say that if we apply SD into society and into the population for this new and still unknown virus, we can then know if it works or is effective or not, over time. These same ‘experts’ suggest wearing masks with SD as a lesser and secondary mandate- why? The problem with these unscientific thoughts are numerous. Here are some of the highlights – the most obvious ones.

1. Not all people walk precisely at 2m or 6 ft. Many avoid doing SD all together when not in public. It is a very uncontrollable variable.

2. A large percentage of people wear barriers such as masks or plastic shields. Wearing these devises shred the notion of using SD as a control and knowing it effectiveness as a viable measure of slowing down the virus, completely. You cannot observe the SD effect whilst introducing another variable concurrently, viola, the mask!

3. If one is to show the effectiveness of SD, then there has to be a non-SD control group to compare the results. There is none and it there will never one devised.

4. Then there is the nagging lingering fine mist spray of the virus already mentioned, that completely voids the idea of SD being effective measure at all. To linger means to stay in the same airspace for a longer period of time and to stay compact for a longer period of time before even losing altitude. It may flow within the currents of air.

5. Even surgical grade masks when worm ‘correctly’ and smugly, cannot stop the virus from entering the airspace or prevent the virus from entering a body or cavity of the mouth, eyes, nose, especially when a fine mist of the virus in moving in the local airspace. So forget home-make cute masks all together. They do really nothing for preventing the virus spread. Although it can produce a psychologic boosting effect for the user; with a feeling of ‘protection.’

6. The effect of wearing a mask say 4-6 hours a day for a few months can be detrimental to your immune system and breathing in general. We are made to accept bacteria and virus, the good kind to maintain our immune system. Without having full access to these critters our immune system becomes impaired over time. So when a real threatening virus appears, we then are unprepared without a robust immune system to combat it.

7. Wearing a mask for a prolonged period of time can cause lung and breathing problems. Not enough O2 and too much CO2 in our bodies; not to mention inducing a self-inflicted strained lungs condition that stifles tidal normal breathing.

8. There are many important variables that cannot be calculated with any appreciable accuracy in the field, or in public for SD and the use of porous masks.

9. For SD and those with or without masks, - ALL 4 conditions (1. No SD and no masks, 2. SD and no masks, 3. SD and masks, and 4. Only masks and no SD. They ALL must be tested and evaluated. They must be done in a controlled environment as a true scientific experiment. And as of today there has been no true scientific study done on SD or even masking. Not even for the common flu! There have been a few partial tests performed for the use of masks with a virus present; in Hong Kong, Australia and the US, many years ago for the common flu. And these results are still debatable and not convincing. And then we are to believe that SD and even wearing masks are scientific proven measures against ‘slowing down’ a viral spread?!

10. The virus exposure time for potential infection is the main and critical variable for SD and even the use of masks or a combination of both. The time for the virus’ death outside the body is estimated to be between 30 mins to a few hours depending on factors such as being inside or outside, with or without sunshine, with or without rainfall, temperatures being below or above 70 degree F, the humidity, the current air speed and direction, the speed and direction of each of the two people separated, and of course the volume and speed and force of the water droplets or fine mist particles ejected at the muzzle or at the mouth’s exist or at least one person. The calculations really gets complicated even more if both individuals might have the virus and sneeze or cough in the same air space. And finally, how long the two people remain in the same air common airspace.

Before all this ‘new virus’ event began, most people understood that if you hear and or see someone coughing or sneezing you go the other way or evacuate the scene. It was and still is common sense, and it worked. Why not use this same sense for this new virus?

Are servant demeaning muzzles and human separation zones the new norm and the new way of 'dumbing' down the public, triggered by this so-called novel virus?


A critical thinker is something to be….

What say ye?


APAK
 
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Are servant demeaning muzzles and human separation zones the new norm and the new way of 'dumbing' down the public, triggered by this so-called novel virus?
Didn't they already have to be ... taught wrong, believing and trusting the world's powers, to be so deceived today ?
i.e. I don't think it is a "new" thing - it is continuation of the growing world government/ beast system/ already accepted by most in the world and of the world.
 
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The first virus in history to cause unnatural separation and the muzzling of people

Social Distancing and the use of masks to prevent the spread of the virus are measures based NOT on true science. They are more about what you find in a mandatory course on political science that emphasizes effective tools for authoritarianism and population control.

This then is the so-called science and basis used and the political justification for a 6 foot or 2 meter physical separation or social distancing (SD) and the use of masks between two people for this current active ‘new’ virus.

When a person coughs or sneezes with or without a barrier over their mouth or nose to halt it, virus infected water droplets or even more energetic finer particle mists from the lungs or throat are generated and settles to the ground or at feet of another person 6 feet away or lingers in the air within a few feet to even more than 6 feet away from the other person.

This lingering virus embedded in water/vapor of fine mist though is the major spanner or wrench thrown naturally into the works that is a clear and unavoidable problem with SD and even the use of masks to combat the new virus or any other virus for that matter.

They, the medical ‘experts’ say that if we apply SD into society and into the population for this new and still unknown virus, we can then know if it works or is effective or not, over time. These same ‘experts’ suggest wearing masks with SD as a lesser and secondary mandate- why? The problem with these unscientific thoughts are numerous. Here are some of the highlights – the most obvious ones.

1. Not all people walk precisely at 2m or 6 ft. Many avoid doing SD all together when not in public. It is a very uncontrollable variable.

2. A large percentage of people wear barriers such as masks or plastic shields. Wearing these devises shred the notion of using SD as a control and knowing it effectiveness as a viable measure of slowing down the virus, completely. You cannot observe the SD effect whilst introducing another variable concurrently, viola, the mask!

3. If one is to show the effectiveness of SD, then there has to be a non-SD control group to compare the results. There is none and it there will never one devised.

4. Then there is the nagging lingering fine mist spray of the virus already mentioned, that completely voids the idea of SD being effective measure at all. To linger means to stay in the same airspace for a longer period of time and to stay compact for a longer period of time before even losing altitude. It may flow within the currents of air.

5. Even surgical grade masks when worm ‘correctly’ and smugly, cannot stop the virus from entering the airspace or prevent the virus from entering a body or cavity of the mouth, eyes, nose, especially when a fine mist of the virus in moving in the local airspace. So forget home-make cute masks all together. They do really nothing for preventing the virus spread. Although it can produce a psychologic boosting effect for the user; with a feeling of ‘protection.’

6. The effect of wearing a mask say 4-6 hours a day for a few months can be detrimental to your immune system and breathing in general. We are made to accept bacteria and virus, the good kind to maintain our immune system. Without having full access to these critters our immune system becomes impaired over time. So when a real threatening virus appears, we then are unprepared without a robust immune system to combat it.

7. Wearing a mask for a prolonged period of time can cause lung and breathing problems. Not enough O2 and too much CO2 in our bodies; not to mention inducing a self-inflicted strained lungs condition that stifles tidal normal breathing.

8. There are many important variables that cannot be calculated with any appreciable accuracy in the field, or in public for SD and the use of porous masks.

9. For SD and those with or without masks, - ALL 4 conditions (1. No SD and no masks, 2. SD and no masks, 3. SD and masks, and 4. Only masks and no SD. They ALL must be tested and evaluated. They must be done in a controlled environment as a true scientific experiment. And as of today there has been no true scientific study done on SD or even masking. Not even for the common flu! There have been a few partial tests performed for the use of masks with a virus present; in Hong Kong, Australia and the US, many years ago for the common flu. And these results are still debatable and not convincing. And then we are to believe that SD and even wearing masks are scientific proven measures against ‘slowing down’ a viral spread?!

10. The virus exposure time for potential infection is the main and critical variable for SD and even the use of masks or a combination of both. The time for the virus’ death outside the body is estimated to be between 30 mins to a few hours depending on factors such as being inside or outside, with or without sunshine, with or without rainfall, temperatures being below or above 70 degree F, the humidity, the current air speed and direction, the speed and direction of each of the two people separated, and of course the volume and speed and force of the water droplets or fine mist particles ejected at the muzzle or at the mouth’s exist or at least one person. The calculations really gets complicated even more if both individuals might have the virus and sneeze or cough in the same air space. And finally, how long the two people remain in the same air common airspace.

Before all this ‘new virus’ event began, most people understood that if you hear and or see someone coughing or sneezing you go the other way or evacuate the scene. It was and still is common sense, and it worked. Why not use this same sense for this new virus?

Are servant demeaning muzzles and human separation zones the new norm and the new way of 'dumbing' down the public, triggered by this so-called novel virus?


A critical thinker is something to be….

What say ye?


APAK
Hi APAK,

To me,. it's a numbers game. Will SD remove your chance of catching covid? No. But it may reduce it. Masks? Same, may reduce it. Not touching face? Using sanitizers, washing? Ditto, ditto, and ditto.

For me its about compounding more favorable percentages. So will no one be hospitalized, or die? No, but hopefully fewer.

So then . . . I suppose you are not social distancing, or wearing a mask when in the presence of others?

Much love!
 

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If one is to show the effectiveness of SD, then there has to be a non-SD control group to compare the results. There is none and it there will never one devised.
You and your fellow conspiracy theorists should volunteer to be the control group.
 
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Hi APAK,

To me,. it's a numbers game. Will SD remove your chance of catching covid? No. But it may reduce it. Masks? Same, may reduce it. Not touching face? Using sanitizers, washing? Ditto, ditto, and ditto.

For me its about compounding more favorable percentages. So will no one be hospitalized, or die? No, but hopefully fewer.

So then . . . I suppose you are not social distancing, or wearing a mask when in the presence of others?

Much love!
Exactly. It's not a binary situation where measures are either 100% effective, or completely useless. If various measures can reduce one's likelihood of being infected, they're worth doing even if they don't completely eliminate the possibility.
 

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Funny...like the humor..
I'm somewhat serious. The people who think the virus is a hoax should put their money where their mouth is and volunteer to be the control group in a test of the effectiveness of social distancing. If they truly believe their own rhetoric, they have nothing to fear.
 
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What say ye?
'Four states have conducted widespread Covid testing of inmates in their state prison systems. These tests showed (i) most prisoners have already been infected with the virus and (ii) most importantly, more than 95% of those who were infected showed no symptoms.

These results are even more remarkable because there are many inmates with underlying health issues and because males are dying from Covid at higher rates than females (60% of fatalities are male). These studies further support the proposition that the virus is not dangerous for most people.'


OPEN THE ECONOMY! US Prison Study Finds 3,300 Inmates Positive for COVID-19 - 96% Have No Symptoms -- 99.2% of Minnesota Deaths Due to Underlying Conditions
 
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I'm somewhat serious. The people who think the virus is a hoax should put their money where their mouth is and volunteer to be the control group in a test of the effectiveness of social distancing. If they truly believe their own rhetoric, they have nothing to fear.

As I said to you before, you don't believe in conspiracies as part of your life because your mum/mam/mom still tells you it will be alright..there, there now...just settle down. She says to avoid all this talk of conspiracies that are only theories spawned by agitators. Mum knows best and always tells you the truth you need to know.
Of course you mum or mom is your loving government. That's your reality, not mine.

Aren't you part of the control group already?..you know, the ones that are bending their knees to the new Constitution as the Who would sing....

Great Day..

APAK
 

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'Four states have conducted widespread Covid testing of inmates in their state prison systems. These tests showed (i) most prisoners have already been infected with the virus and (ii) most importantly, more than 95% of those who were infected showed no symptoms.

These results are even more remarkable because there are many inmates with underlying health issues and because males are dying from Covid at higher rates than females (60% of fatalities are male). These studies further support the proposition that the virus is not dangerous for most people.'


OPEN THE ECONOMY! US Prison Study Finds 3,300 Inmates Positive for COVID-19 - 96% Have No Symptoms -- 99.2% of Minnesota Deaths Due to Underlying Conditions
This is right in line with this OP....what are they doing with this data you have presented..I meant the experts and the politicians...just being amused with it, as it does not fit into their narrative they are pushing on us?
 

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You and your fellow conspiracy theorists should volunteer to be the control group.
When an actual conspiracy exists but people choose to dismiss it as a "conspiracy theory" they need to have their heads examined. Since they have been buried in the sand for too long.

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OSTRICH SAYS: IGNORING REALITY IS THE NEXT BEST THING TO CHANGING IT
 

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This is right in line with this OP....what are they doing with this data you have presented..I meant the experts and the politicians...just being amused with it, as it does not fit into their narrative they are pushing on us?
That bothers you and it also bothers me. How is it that all this data (tons of information) is not being collated and put into a comprehensive report which emanates from the Oval Office to calm down the population and open up the economy?
 

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When did "follow-the-money" first be quoted to see why / the source/ etc ?
That bothers you and it also bothers me. How is it that all this data (tons of information) is not being collated and put into a comprehensive report which emanates from the Oval Office to calm down the population and open up the economy?
... fumoney .... (pronounced FAST) fu-MA-Knee
 

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When an actual conspiracy exists but people choose to dismiss it as a "conspiracy theory" they need to have their heads examined. Since they have been buried in the sand for too long.
Since when has government, religious, and business practice,

as it is today,

as described in Scripture,

become a 'conspiracy theory' ?
 

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As I said to you before, you don't believe in conspiracies as part of your life because your mum/mam/mom still tells you it will be alright..there, there now...just settle down. She says to avoid all this talk of conspiracies that are only theories spawned by agitators. Mum knows best and always tells you the truth you need to know.
Of course you mum or mom is your loving government. That's your reality, not mine.

Aren't you part of the control group already?..you know, the ones that are bending their knees to the new Constitution as the Who would sing....

Great Day..

APAK
No, it's this sort of childish reply from conspiracy theorists that leads me to conclude that such folks are either intellectually lazy, rather slow, or both.
 

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When an actual conspiracy exists but people choose to dismiss it as a "conspiracy theory" they need to have their heads examined. Since they have been buried in the sand for too long.

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And btw, remember how it wasn't that long ago you were posting daily US death numbers when they were relatively low and lists of states that hadn't had a COVID death, and droning on and on about how this was all overblown and no worse than the flu? Notice how you've stopped?

I guess now you've moved on to claiming the numbers are a hoax....even though they're from the same sources you were previously citing?

Funny how that works.....
 

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I'm somewhat serious. The people who think the virus is a hoax should put their money where their mouth is and volunteer to be the control group in a test of the effectiveness of social distancing. If they truly believe their own rhetoric, they have nothing to fear.
No worries at all. Already done. But unless you seek and keep honestly seeking for the information, you won't likely ever find it.
 

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I think the masks are worthless. It's all feel good solutions that really do next to nothing. I'm not saying don't be careful, but you are going to be exposed at some point. Accept it and go back to your life. Boost your immune system if possible.
 
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I think the masks are worthless. It's all feel good solutions that really do next to nothing. I'm not saying don't be careful, but you are going to be exposed at some point. Accept it and go back to your life. Boost your immune system if possible.
Or you could follow the guidelines and avoid getting infected at least until there's a vaccine and/or effective treatment, thereby protecting those around you, the vulnerable among us, and health care workers.