Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death

[JohnDB]

So are you saying you condone the violence?

No
How did you get that from anything I said?

All I said was that Biden was inciting them to continue and possibly be worse and was a hypocrite for his actions.

How is that condoning or encouragement for violence over politics?

Are you sure you are capable of reading comprehension?

 

[April_Rose]

@Pearl is right, the woman was shot in the neck and killed for not following orders of the police.




Woman Dies After Being Shot Inside Capitol Building During Riot

 

[Pearl]

I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people – for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Saviour, 1 Timothy 2:1-3

 

[Hidden In Him]

I really don't know how you can interpret my post in such a way. Perhaps you didn't read it properly. Where did I say that Jesus has nothing to do with America. You made that up.

It is not just a silly demonstration and if you think that's all it is then you perhaps need new glasses. I just read a woman has been killed.

By the cops, Pearl, by the cops. Not by Trump supporters. And it's very obvious that it should be interpreted that way, Pearl. How many Christian supporters of Trump are there in this forum, including myself? Two, and the rest are far more "intelligent" and "moral" like nearly everyone on that side of the Atlantic. Duly noted. Your post makes its very obvious how you feel about us. Or do you think we're both immoral and stupid? But believe what you wish. I'll just chalk it up that I learned something about you today.

But so be it. The whole Christian world is a crashing disappointment some days, LoL. Life goes on.

God bless,
Hidden In Him

 

[April_Rose]

By the cops, Pearl, by the cops. Not by Trump supporters. And it's very obvious that it should be interpreted that way, Pearl. How many Christian supporters of Trump are there in this forum, including myself? Two, and the rest are far more "intelligent" and "moral" like nearly everyone on that side of the Atlantic. Duly noted. Your post makes its very obvious how you feel about us. Or do you think we're both immoral and stupid? But believe what you wish. I'll just chalk it up that I learned something about you today. And I won't be forgetting it anytime soon.

But so be it. The whole Christian world is a crashing disappointment some days, LoL. Life goes on.

God bless,
Hidden In Him

I hope you're being sarcastic as there's a lot more than two Christian Trump supporters on here,.. but I don't think any of us condone unnecessary violence.

 

[Pearl]

Here since this video was removed from his Twitter account for some strange reason.

He might be telling them to go home now, but he was the one who told them to march in the first place. What a hypocrite.

 

[April_Rose]

He might be telling them to go home now, but he was the one who told them to march in the first place. What a hypocrite.

He told them to be peaceful though.

 

[Pearl]

By the cops, Pearl, by the cops. Not by Trump supporters. And it's very obvious that it should be interpreted that way, Pearl. How many Christian supporters of Trump are there in this forum, including myself? Two, and the rest are far more "intelligent" and "moral" like nearly everyone on that side of the Atlantic. Duly noted. Your post makes its very obvious how you feel about us. Or do you think we're both immoral and stupid? But believe what you wish. I'll just chalk it up that I learned something about you today. And I won't be forgetting it anytime soon.

But so be it. The whole Christian world is a crashing disappointment some days, LoL. Life goes on.

God bless,
Hidden In Him

Yes by the cops - who seem ready to shoot anybody - but it she hadn't been part of riot, if she'd stayed home she would be still alive. When people try to take the law into their own hands it usually has bad consequences. Poor lady.

And that remark was uncalled for and works both ways.

 

[Pearl]

He told them to be peaceful though.

When it was too late.

 

[Raccoon1010]

*Sigh* I just came back from a day of geocaching and I heard the news. The democrats won the senate and now the white house is currently on lockdown. I must say that I was disappointed enough when I found out that we had lost, but this just seems to be too far in my mind as it got a little bit out of hand. I'm rather disappointed in Mike Pence, but at this point as much as I'm a Trump supporter he's just digging his own grave. At this point, if we really do become a communist country and this is the beginning of another civil war,.. I would rather die. (No I'm not suicidal,.. yet. Anyways @historyb, @JohnDB, @Taken, @Bobby Jo,.. I figured that you would still want to see this. @Heart2Soul and @Grailhunter, I apologize for forgetting to mention you.

Wow, yeah with the voter fraud and Christian religious persecution performed by our government. I guess you could see this coming. I did notice that Brits were denouncing the capital siege as a blow against democracy, which is typical (World leaders condemn violence at U.S. Capitol, urge orderly transfer of power). They have more of a socialism anyways and probably biased.

Well maybe they'll take a look at voter fraud now, but I doubt it.

 

[April_Rose]

Yes by the cops - who seem ready to shoot anybody - but it she hadn't been part of riot, if she'd stayed home she would be still alive. When people try to take the law into their own hands it usually has bad consequences. Poor lady.

And that remark was uncalled for and works both ways.

Apparently the only reason the police shot her is because she didn't comply with orders so as sad and as tragic as it is it's sort of her own fault as she had been warned.

 

[wip]

When it was too late.

I heard him telling people days ago to be calm and peaceful. Have you ever heard the democrat leaders say anything like that - nope

 

[historyb]

*Sigh* I just came back from a day of geocaching and I heard the news. The democrats won the senate and now the white house is currently on lockdown. I must say that I was disappointed enough when I found out that we had lost, but this just seems to be too far in my mind as it got a little bit out of hand. I'm rather disappointed in Mike Pence, but at this point as much as I'm a Trump supporter he's just digging his own grave. At this point, if we really do become a communist country and this is the beginning of another civil war,.. I would rather die. (No I'm not suicidal,.. yet. Anyways @historyb, @JohnDB, @Taken, @Bobby Jo,.. I figured that you would still want to see this. @Heart2Soul and @Grailhunter, I apologize for forgetting to mention you.

I heard. What does everyone expect? We have been pushed down, told we're no good, told to stay home all the while the bleeping (add your own words here) liberals get away with anything and what are we told on radio and everywhere? Stay peaceful. Stay peaceful! Yet the other side can trample us all they like. Well we tried it their way now we'll try it our way and liberals will rue the day they ever done anything to us! WAR! CIVIL WAR!

The problem the good guys are soft and don't want to fight like our founding Fathers did for freedom. President Washington didn't say at valley forge "Well they won guys freedoms over" no they fought against the oppressor and now we must do the same

From Patrick Henry's Give me liberty or give me death speech:

“Our petitions have been slighted,” Henry said, “our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne…we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!”

“The war is actually begun!”

“The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?”

“Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”

 

[BarneyFife]

Revelation 13

11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.​

America is not going anywhere.​

 

[Hidden In Him]

And that remark was uncalled for and works both ways.

It needs to. I shouldn't have said anything and just accepted things as they are. But it's sad.

 

[historyb]

The whole Christian world is a crashing disappointment some days

To be a Christian is to sport disappointment only, the lesson should be seen by all this day.

 

[wip]

'A tad'? Really? Surely that's more than a tad. My friend in Chicago is ashamed to be an American tight now.

Biden won. He will be the next president. Trump lost and he's a sore loser who has incited his followers to riot. He told them to march in protest. I just hope democracy will win through all this shameful posturing of a spoiled brat of a man,

I'm not sure I would characterize biden as a brat. More like a clueless, brain dead geriatric.

 

[amigo de christo]

I heard him telling people days ago to be calm and peaceful. Have you ever heard the democrat leaders say anything like that - nope

what about maxine walters . OH wait , never mind .

 

[historyb]

@Pearl I see your a traitor to freedom, so be it

 

[Hidden In Him]

To be a Christian is to sport disappointment only, the lesson should be seen by all this day.

Finding out that a "friendship" was hypocritical is always hurtful. But then the realization comes that maybe it was never there to begin with...

Like I said, life goes on. You just pray for others, and accept what is, if need be. Maybe there'll be reconciliation, although I'm not sure what we'd reconcile to, now that I think about it. Looking back, seems to me there were never any real warm responses anyway.

But there's always hope. I remember you and I went at it once. Praise God that's water under the bridge now : )

God bless,
- H :)