I Can't Keep My Mouth Shut Anymore

[April_Rose]

You didn't know Trump is no longer in the Whitehouse? You're not going to overthrow the Beast.

Whatever.

 

[Ziggy]

Doesn't matter, if what they call for is not unbiblical we must obey. They allow porn shops, but that doesn't mean we have to go in. If they say we must, then we must disobey for that is contrary to the Word of God.




I follow the Lord jesus Christ. and part of following Him is to obey the governing authorities. With the caveat that if they are calling for me to disobey god, then I disobey them and must be ready to take the consequences. That is what we are commanded to do.

Jesus never said if they were upstanding people. It matters not how corrupt or evil the leaders are, if they pass laws that are not unbiblical, we are bound as followers of Jesus to obey!

We must obey?
Show me where Jesus said we have to obey man?
Now I understand the render unto Caesar what is Caesar's argument.
But I don't belong to Caesar.

If they pass laws that are not unbiblical?
Show me in the bible where being injected with foreign objects is biblical.

1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

in other words:
NLT: Timothy, guard what God has entrusted to you. Avoid godless, foolish discussions with those who oppose you with their so-called knowledge.

Science: The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.
Where is God in the description of science?

Should we trust in man's experimental investigations?

Like I said.. You do You and I will do me.

 

[Ziggy]

Trump doesn't need to be in the .... what is it Pelosi calls it? oh yeah.. the "Temple"

Just like Obama didn't need to be in the WH to direct a lot of this BLM/Antifa.

Sometimes when your NOT in the spotlight, your more effective.

just saying..

 

[dev553344]

I read this morning that a heart problem is coming up in the vaccinated youth. It's not yet confirmed and they're working on it. It's a mild problem they stated: CDC investigating 'mild' reports of potential heart problems following COVID-19 vaccination

The Centers for Disease Control is investigating a small number of young adults and adolescents who may have experienced heart problems following a COVID-19 vaccine, though the agency stressed that it is unclear the vaccine is responsible.

There have been "relatively few" reports of myocarditis and "most cases appear to be mild," but the COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Technical Work Group said it felt the potential issue should be communicated to providers.

The CDC noted that mRNA vaccines, which are made by Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech, are potentially causing the problem.

 

[April_Rose]

I read this morning that a heart problem is coming up in the vaccinated youth. It's not yet confirmed and they're working on it. It's a mild problem they stated: CDC investigating 'mild' reports of potential heart problems following COVID-19 vaccination

The Centers for Disease Control is investigating a small number of young adults and adolescents who may have experienced heart problems following a COVID-19 vaccine, though the agency stressed that it is unclear the vaccine is responsible.

There have been "relatively few" reports of myocarditis and "most cases appear to be mild," but the COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Technical Work Group said it felt the potential issue should be communicated to providers.

The CDC noted that mRNA vaccines, which are made by Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech, are potentially causing the problem.

I hope you realize that you just opened a bunch of cans of worms with this post.

 

[dev553344]

I hope you realize that you just opened a bunch of cans of worms with this post.

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Just reporting facts. But again there are only a few cases of that mild heart problem. And it's not confirmed that it is from the vaccine. So it's not an issue for the vast majority of people. But still people need to know.

 

[April_Rose]

Just reporting facts. But again there are only a few cases of that mild heart problem. And it's not confirmed that it is from the vaccine. So it's not an issue for the vast majority of people. But still people need to know.

I know, but you have to remember that the majority of people in this thread tend to act like the sky is falling.

 

[dev553344]

I know, but you have to remember that the majority of people in this thread tend to act like the sky is falling.

The sky is falling during meteor showers and rainy days. Is that a bad thing? I like to keep optimistic

 

[April_Rose]

The sky is falling during meteor showers and rainy days. Is that a bad thing? I like to keep optimistic

So do I,.. I was just preparing you for the fact that it isn't just rain you're going to have to be concerned about,... it's a thunderstorm that's about to hit.

 

[Taodeching]

We are to obey our "rulers" unless they tell us to sin.

Yet many Christians refuse to do as the Master instructs us and it is all over Sacred Scripture:

Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. Romans 13:1-3

Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good, to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and always to be gentle toward everyone. Titus 3:1-2

Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 1 Peter 2:13-14

Instead of doing as the Master wants of us (for we have chosen to be His slaves and have been bought with a price) many Christians decide to be independent away from the Master and reject what He wants. Look at this thread and others, those rulers whom the Master has placed over us we fight against by complaining and not doing as the rulers wish. Since we are slaves to the Master we are to do what He says not whatever we want or our personal choices. The rulers that the Master has placed over us desires that we get vaccinated. There is no sin in that, no there is no where in Scripture that says we are to worry about a "beast" or anything else our duty as His slaves is to do His will not ours ever.

Worrying about National politics is a waste of my time. I like helping my community on the local level.

That is good for the Master has said what we should do:

He has shown you, O man, what is good;
And what does the Lord require of you
But to do justly,
To love mercy,
And to walk humbly with your God? Micah 6:8

I know, but you have to remember that the majority of people in this thread tend to act like the sky is falling.

Yes, it is to bad the people in this thread do not desire to do what the Master wants but love to go their own way. A can of worms indeed

 

[Ziggy]

For some reason I am reminded of Daniel.

Dan 1:8 But Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the portion of the king's meat, nor with the wine which he drank: therefore he requested of the prince of the eunuchs that he might not defile himself.

Dan 3:16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter.
Dan 3:17 If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king.
Dan 3:18 But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.

Dan 6:13 Then answered they and said before the king, That Daniel, which is of the children of the captivity of Judah, regardeth not thee, O king, nor the decree that thou hast signed, but maketh his petition three times a day.

So Daniel should have eaten whatever was set before him, bowed down to whatever the King commanded, and got permission to pray.

Must be, Daniel's in a lot of trouble.
hmm

 

[Taodeching]

Clearly you do not want to live for the Master. The Master has given us a new way from Daniel, it is your choice if you want to follow the Master or not

 

[Ziggy]

Clearly you do not want to live for the Master. The Master has given us a new way from Daniel, it is your choice if you want to follow the Master or not

I don't know what "Master" your following,
I'm following the Lord Jesus Christ.
He is my King and I answer to Him alone.

 

[Ziggy]

Here is some "Authority" for ya..
Rev 13:1
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Crowns means this beast is powerful authority.. kingly even.

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Notice not all people will bow down and worship or obey this "manmade" "authority"

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

I don't see where it says we should bow down to an earthy government, or the W.H.O or the CDC or the NIH, or any doctors, lawyers,
politicians, presidents, prime ministers....

Nope, it says FEAR GOD and WORSHIP HIM.

You have "other" "masters" besides God ?
I will pray for you.

 

[Brakelite]

heart problems following a COVID-19 vaccine, though the agency stressed that it is unclear the vaccine is responsible.

Interesting isn't it. Blood clots that killed several and sent others into intensive care after receiving the vaccine was said to have no causative link. The vaccine not responsible there either. Do you see a pattern developing here?

 

[kcnalp]

Trump doesn't need to be in the .... what is it Pelosi calls it? oh yeah.. the "Temple"

Just like Obama didn't need to be in the WH to direct a lot of this BLM/Antifa.

Sometimes when your NOT in the spotlight, your more effective.

just saying..

Well said. There are MANY filthy rich Liberals behind the scenes running the "show". They own the Satanic media.

 

[dev553344]

Interesting isn't it. Blood clots that killed several and sent others into intensive care after receiving the vaccine was said to have no causative link. The vaccine not responsible there either. Do you see a pattern developing here?

Yes I won't take the Johnson and Johnson vaccine for that reason.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Yet many Christians refuse to do as the Master instructs us and it is all over Sacred Scripture:

Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. Romans 13:1-3

Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good, to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and always to be gentle toward everyone. Titus 3:1-2

Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 1 Peter 2:13-14

Instead of doing as the Master wants of us (for we have chosen to be His slaves and have been bought with a price) many Christians decide to be independent away from the Master and reject what He wants. Look at this thread and others, those rulers whom the Master has placed over us we fight against by complaining and not doing as the rulers wish. Since we are slaves to the Master we are to do what He says not whatever we want or our personal choices. The rulers that the Master has placed over us desires that we get vaccinated. There is no sin in that, no there is no where in Scripture that says we are to worry about a "beast" or anything else our duty as His slaves is to do His will not ours ever.



That is good for the Master has said what we should do:

He has shown you, O man, what is good;
And what does the Lord require of you
But to do justly,
To love mercy,
And to walk humbly with your God? Micah 6:8



Yes, it is to bad the people in this thread do not desire to do what the Master wants but love to go their own way. A can of worms indeed

And yet the man who said obey the governing authorities is one of the same men who said, we must obey God rather than men.

Peter and the other apostles replied: "We must obey God rather than human beings!

now what?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Did Moses parents obey the governing authorities when they tried to hide him?

Did the 3 wise men obey the governing authorities when they didn’t report back?

Did the midwives obey the governing authorities?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

And of course this branch of the conversation is a bit moot,( but I went there anyway When it led there), because no government authority has said I must get this procedure. At least not yet.