I'm curious as to how you can so simply and easily brush off phoneman's post on Revelation 12:17 (and there are many other tests along the same lines) which so clearly contradicts your belief based on one misunderstood and misapplied verse, that Satan no longer has any influence, affect, over Christians and the world in general. "Oh, you can believe what you like, thanks for your contribution"... Is a cop out, particularly when you admit to a lack of understanding on the issue. Ought you not at the very least consider it, and then investigate it until completely satisfied that you have the truth?
@Brakelite
Thats rude to call my comment a cop out.
Why are you judging me sharing information?
Are not all allowed liberty in Christ to freely think? There is a whole lot of evidence in my opinion that would lead me to believing Jesus and his promise of coming back in that age for the blameless group of people who did it all out of love for God and for others who were the firsts ones to go on to the kingdom.
Not believing in that “Jesus failed to get them”, and also “not Believing that the Apostlee who continued to warn them, to continue to be watchful and wait for his return were lying”, or to believe the other common thread of “double prophecy”.
I believe in my heart that Jesus came back, and those who were watching and waiting were taken and changed in a blink of an eye, however its all in faith.
There are different measures of faith.
Therefore, you can say and suggest what you want, you can believe Jesus has yet to still come. I believe everyone will end up meeting the maker after this life and will be judged and will be placed either outside the kingdom or inside due to faith, and judged based on the merit “did you love God, and did you love others” in the Agape sense of the word.
Not “did you believe brakelite, or “did you believe shawn”, “did you believe jay ross” “did you believe phoneman777”, it will be “did you believe Jesus and did you decide to walk in faith and trust in Him, and love God and love others…
Therefore freedom is a must, and my comment is geniuine cause people are allowed to decide what they will be believe because its subjective.
The last days started in Acts - prove me wrong and ill kiss your feet but you wont be able to, you also have a string of witness that the great and dreadful day was coming.
However if you dont wanna accept that as evidence what right do I have to judge you?
The ability though a simply study bible like "Thompson Chain Reference Study Bible", can pull up all the verses and just go from there, this book above is a bit easier. Especially for those who do not understand the position but they dont have to even accept that... just go and look for the evidences in the bible.
Amazing that almost all the books of teh bible that are written in there are debateable by "date" and alot of believes things are traditions.
Jesus taught against the traditions of man - and if that doesn't mean "Be free and think for yourself, putting God first", I dont know what is.
All the best, may God guide,
Matthew