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No sin in the Born Again

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  1. Behold

    Behold Well-Known Member

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    What is the difference between a Christian, and an unbeliever?
    There are a few.

    You are going to heaven, and they are not.
    You are born again, and they are not.
    They have their sin, and Christ has all yours.

    When you are working out your salvation, you are learning how to exist within it.
    This is how you "work out". You work out, what you already possess.
    If you are born again, you are already IN the "Kingdom of God", and there is no sin found there.
    You are IN CHRIST< and there is no sin found there.
    You are "ONE WITH GOD"< and there is no sin found there.
    If there is sin in you, then you are found in those.
    You have to be made SINLESS to be found in the KOG, In Christ, and "One with God".

    You salvation....you are not trying to keep it, you are trying to learn how to exist within its particular spiritual reality.
    That how you "work out your salvation".
    The 1st rule, and most important, is to learn how to see yourself only as God sees you after you are born again.
    This is a must do. As if you don't, you will never understand the New Testament, and you will never walk in the Spirit, and you'll probably end up here. Galatians 1:8 .

    Saint.....live here. Hebrews 13:9

    Now, before you were born again, you had a dead spirit and you were what Paul defines as the "old man".
    This, is the carnal nature that is "flesh". And its actually the nature of the devil. The devil's nature is "sin", and you were a sinner, before you were "saved" from this situation.
    To be a sinner, is to have the devil's nature.
    And THAT, is the "old man", or the carnal "flesh".

    When you are born again, this carnal "flesh" old man dies with Christ. It , this flesh nature, the "old man" is "crucified with Christ" and is dead.
    Paul tells you to understand that and to never again see yourself as that which is "dead".
    When you believe this, and you exist in the mind of this understanding, you are Believing Right, and you are working out your salvation according to this Truth.
    You are learning to SEE YOURSELF as only God sees you, and THAT is how you learn to walk in the Spirit.

    Now where are you sins?
    Where are ALL your sins/
    They are all gone if you are born again.
    You have no sin. None. If you had any, you would be the same as an unbeliever, and Christ would not have them, and you would still be damned.
    However, because you are born again, you are now become this :

    2nd Corinthians 5:21 :
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    For God made Jesus who knew no sin to be sin for us, and we have become the righteousness of God in Him.""

    Notice who has your sin.
    Christ has your sin. He actually became and born all your sin. He has them all, and you have ZERO.
    You have none in you, and you have none on you. You are "the righteousness of God, because Jesus became all your sin.
    See that? That is SALVATION.

    And because you have no sin in you or on you, you are become these verses....

    Romans 6:6....""
    For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the carnal nature (the old man) that was previously ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin-- and......Romans 6:7 .."For he who has died has been freed from sin."""

    So, Saint.. that is you now.
    Christ has all you sin, and there is none in you, and none on you, because they are on HIM.
    And your carnal nature, that was your previous SELF, or "flesh", is now DEAD, and you have become a "new Creation". =
    Born again. And this New Creation is sinless. You have no sin in you or on you, and your previous carnal nature is DEAD, DEAD, DEAD.

    You are FREED. You are freed from sin, because your old "flesh" is DEAD" and all your sin is taken by Christ.
    You now remain, RIGHTEOUS, SINLESS, and born again....forever.

    So, when you read NT verses that talk about having sin, and sinning, then recognize that these verses are not directed at the born again.
    The Born again are "complete in him", we are the Righteousness of God, with no sin in us, and no sin on us.
    We are "made righteous", "blood bought", and remain as pure as the Blood of Jesus for as long as God lives, as we live IN HIM........"One with God, and Christ".
     
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    1Jo 1:8, If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
     
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    The apostle that wrote that does not have indwelling sin.
    No born again person has indwelling sin.

    For sin to "indwell you" means that Christ has not become your sin bearer.
    "Indwelling sin" means you are not saved, as the unbeliever has the "indwelling sin", issue.

    You dont understand this, and im not surprised.
     
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    2nd Corinthians 5:21 :
    "For God made Jesus who knew no sin to be sin for us, and we have become the righteousness of God in Him.""

    Notice who has your sin.
    Christ has your sin. He actually became and born all your sin. He has them all, and you have ZERO.
    You have none in you, and you have none on you. You are "the righteousness of God, because Jesus became all your sin.
    See that? That is SALVATION.

    And because you have no sin in you or on you, you are become these verses....

    Romans 6:6....""
    For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the carnal nature (the old man) that was previously ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin-- and......Romans 6:7 .."For he who has died has been freed from sin."""

    So, .. that is you now.....if you are born again.
    Christ has all you sin, and there is none in you, and none on you, because they are on HIM.
    And your carnal nature, that was your previous SELF, or "flesh", is now DEAD, and you have become a "new Creation". = Born again. And this New Creation is sinless. You have no sin in you or on you, and your previous carnal nature is DEAD, DEAD, DEAD.

    You are FREED. You are freed from sin, because your old "flesh" is DEAD" and all your sin is taken by Christ.
    You now remain, RIGHTEOUS, SINLESS, and born again....forever.
     
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    If you are born again, you are already IN the "Kingdom of God", and there is no sin found there.
    You are IN CHRIST< and there is no sin found there.
    You are "ONE WITH GOD"< and there is no sin found there.
    If there is sin in you, then you are found in those.
    You have to be made SINLESS to be found in the KOG, In Christ, and "One with God".
     
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    justbyfaith....

    when you read NT verses that talk about having sin, and sinning, then recognize that these verses are not directed at the born again.
    The Born again are "complete in him", we are the Righteousness of God, with no sin in us, and no sin on us.
    We are "made righteous", "blood bought", and remain as pure as the Blood of Jesus for as long as God lives, as we live IN HIM........"One with God, and Christ"
     
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    So, God his own self bore your sins, if you are born again.
    Which?
    All of them. He didn't miss any.
    So, who has them if God bore them, if God "became your sin" ?
    Who has them?
    Do you have them? Does Jesus have them?
    If you still have sin..... If you HAVE IT.......not commit "works of the flesh"......not be a bad liitle girl or a bad little boy, but if you HAVE SIN......... then you are not born again.
    So, again....
    Who has it? Who HAS your sin?
    justbyfaith....God has them all, because God became it and bore it.
    Final Answer, = The born again, have no sin .
     
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    We have vile bodies (Philippians 3:21)...and we are our flesh (Romans 7:18).

    Therefore, we have sin.

    1Jo 1:8, If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
     
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    He is in his glorified body now, so that is correct.

    However, it should be clear that when he was on the earth, he never claimed to be without sin.

    1 John 1:8 is indeed directed at the believer (see 1 John 5:13).
     
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    No sin in the Born Again
    OP^

    Not True.

    A Saved soul IS restored, back to good.
    A Natural spirit, Born Again, (from Gods Seed,) is born A supernatural spirit, Never Subject to death.

    A man's body, is accounted crucified with Christ....
    That man...(Converted) lives SPIRITUALLY in Jesus' risen Body.

    That man's physical Life (blood) still exists...
    (With its sin IN it....but is COVERED with Gods Light (internal Spirit of God).

    Covered, does not mean removed.
    Covered means It can Not be Seen or Remembered.

    We have "Covered" FORGIVEN sin in our flesh.
    ON the Day, God raises UP converted Body's, is the Day the Body is Glorified...SINLESS.

    Rom 4:
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    7] Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.


    God Bless,
    Taken
     
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