Real pandemic vs staged pandemic

[Cristo Rei]

Im coming across so many of these kinds of cases... people dying after having the vaccine but the authorities blowing it off, claiming the vax had nothing to do with it... Such irony...

A person dies 1 week after catching covid... They say he died from covid
A person dies 1 week after the experimental vaccine... They say it wasn't from vaccine

 

[Lapidem]

Im coming across so many of these kinds of cases... people dying after having the vaccine but the authorities blowing it off, claiming the vax had nothing to do with it... Such irony...

A person dies 1 week after catching covid... They say he died from covid
A person dies 1 week after the experimental vaccine... They say it wasn't from vaccine

Some links for you:

The common feature in the majority of the deaths is heart failure. As you say the articles mostly suggest that the vaccines were not the cause but in many cases investigations are on-going. I will leave it for people to decide for themselves:

Norway 2 people die
Two persons died after Covid-19 vaccination in Norway

Israel Man 75yrs old dies 2hrs after vaccination
Man's fatal heart attack likely unlinked to vaccine he took hours before

Israel 88-year-old dies hours after COVID vaccination in second such incident
88-year-old dies hours after COVID vaccination in second such incident

Portugal Health Worker dies 2 days after vaccination
Portuguese Health Worker Dies After Receiving Pfizer COVID Vaccine | Sahara Reporters
Portuguese woman dies two days after getting Pfizer covid vaccine | Daily Mail Online

Croatia 82 yr old dies day after being vacinated - heart failure
Cakovec Woman, 82, Dies of Heart Attack: Minister Beros - Unrelated to Vaccine

Florida Gregory Michael
Who Is Gregory Michael? Doctor Dead After COVID Vaccine, Wife Says It ‘Destroyed A Beautiful Life’
Miami doctor, 58, dies within three weeks of receiving Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine | Daily Mail Online

India 46 yr old dies a day after vaccination
Health worker dies in Uttar Pradesh's Moradabad day after receiving COVID vaccine shot

Belgium 82yr old dies 5 days after vaccination
Belgian Resident Dies 5 Days After Receiving Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine

23 die in Norway care home after receiving Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/15/23-die-in-norway-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/

"Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, with 13 of those deaths — all nursing home patients — apparently related to the side effects of the shots, health officials said.

Common reactions to the vaccine, including fever and nausea, “may have contributed to a fatal outcome in some frail patients,” Sigurd Hortemo, chief physician at the Norwegian Medicines Agency, said in a Friday statement.

All 13 were nursing home patients and at least 80 years old. While officials aren’t expressing serious concern, they are adjusting their guidance on who should receive the vaccine. "


A 56-year-old healthcare worker in Gurgaon
Gurgaon Health Worker Who Got Vaccine Last Week Dies, Autopsy Awaited

Mahipal Singh, 46 dies day after vaccination
Coronavirus: UP health worker dies day after getting vaccinated, official denies link to inoculation

Norway 82-year-old resident at Sola nursing home dies one day after being vaccinated
https://norwaytoday.info/news/82-ye...-day-after-being-vaccinated-against-covid-19/

Jerusalem 88-year-old man same day
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/293952

Health worker dies five days after taking vaccine in Andhra Pradesh
https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nat...s-after-taking-vaccine-in-andhra-pradesh.html

60yr old California X-ray worker
https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/27/x-ra...-get-covid-vaccine-dies-of-reaction-13974169/
https://patch.com/california/missio...ies-after-2nd-dose-coronavirus-vaccine-report

A 52-year-old nurse in Kerala dies day after vaccination
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...r-covid-vaccine-shot/articleshow/80596788.cms

a 55-year-old man of Uttar Pradesh died hours after vaccination
https://www.outlookindia.com/websit...-cmo-claims-death-due-to-heart-ailment/372583

 

[Lapidem]

Bill Gates. Viewed as Satan spawn by some and saviour of man by others

I was listening to this latest Bill Gates interview with a CNN reporter and i started to notice something about the language that Gates uses that i had never noticed b4... Instead of saying "I think this might happen" he says "this will happen" or "were going to do this"...

He's very frank about reducing population numbers imo.

See this TED Talk

Innovating to zero!


At 4:30 he very clearly states:

"The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion.
Now, if we do a really great job on NEW vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could LOWER that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent"

 

[Cristo Rei]

Some links for you:

The common feature in the majority of the deaths is heart failure. As you say the articles mostly suggest that the vaccines were not the cause but in many cases investigations are on-going. I will leave it for people to decide for themselves:

Norway 2 people die
Two persons died after Covid-19 vaccination in Norway

Israel Man 75yrs old dies 2hrs after vaccination
Man's fatal heart attack likely unlinked to vaccine he took hours before

Israel 88-year-old dies hours after COVID vaccination in second such incident
88-year-old dies hours after COVID vaccination in second such incident

Portugal Health Worker dies 2 days after vaccination
Portuguese Health Worker Dies After Receiving Pfizer COVID Vaccine | Sahara Reporters
Portuguese woman dies two days after getting Pfizer covid vaccine | Daily Mail Online

Croatia 82 yr old dies day after being vacinated - heart failure
Cakovec Woman, 82, Dies of Heart Attack: Minister Beros - Unrelated to Vaccine

Florida Gregory Michael
Who Is Gregory Michael? Doctor Dead After COVID Vaccine, Wife Says It ‘Destroyed A Beautiful Life’
Miami doctor, 58, dies within three weeks of receiving Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine | Daily Mail Online

India 46 yr old dies a day after vaccination
Health worker dies in Uttar Pradesh's Moradabad day after receiving COVID vaccine shot

Belgium 82yr old dies 5 days after vaccination
Belgian Resident Dies 5 Days After Receiving Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine

23 die in Norway care home after receiving Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/15/23-die-in-norway-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/

"Twenty-three people died in Norway within days of receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, with 13 of those deaths — all nursing home patients — apparently related to the side effects of the shots, health officials said.

Common reactions to the vaccine, including fever and nausea, “may have contributed to a fatal outcome in some frail patients,” Sigurd Hortemo, chief physician at the Norwegian Medicines Agency, said in a Friday statement.

All 13 were nursing home patients and at least 80 years old. While officials aren’t expressing serious concern, they are adjusting their guidance on who should receive the vaccine. "


A 56-year-old healthcare worker in Gurgaon
Gurgaon Health Worker Who Got Vaccine Last Week Dies, Autopsy Awaited

Mahipal Singh, 46 dies day after vaccination
Coronavirus: UP health worker dies day after getting vaccinated, official denies link to inoculation

Norway 82-year-old resident at Sola nursing home dies one day after being vaccinated
https://norwaytoday.info/news/82-ye...-day-after-being-vaccinated-against-covid-19/

Jerusalem 88-year-old man same day
88-year-old collapses and dies several hours after being vaccinated

Health worker dies five days after taking vaccine in Andhra Pradesh
Health worker dies five days after taking vaccine in Andhra Pradesh

60yr old California X-ray worker
X-ray worker who was 'excited' to get Covid vaccine dies after 'severe reaction'
OC X-Ray Tech Dies After 2nd Dose Of Coronavirus Vaccine: Report

A 52-year-old nurse in Kerala dies day after vaccination
Kerala: Nurse dies day after Covid vaccine shot | Kochi News - Times of India

a 55-year-old man of Uttar Pradesh died hours after vaccination
Man Dies In UP After Receiving Vaccine Shot; CMO Claims Death Due To Heart Ailment

A new member who has the audacity to open with a multitude of truths... How dare you... In this day and age...

My independent fact-checkers have dismissed all your claims as misinformation cos that Utah man was not 55yo, he was 54yo.

Ahh I'm just being silly... I welcome everyone to the forum. Especially those who deal in facts

 

[Cristo Rei]

He's very frank about reducing population numbers imo.

See this TED Talk

Innovating to zero!


At 4:30 he very clearly states:

"The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion.
Now, if we do a really great job on NEW vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could LOWER that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent"

I don't trust Gates at all but to be fair there is a little bit more to that in terms of context...

I agree that's exactly what he said and meant. But has a counter-argument that should be fairly examined despite my bias against him...

He claims that he wasn't talking about the population, but the growth of the population.
I can't properly reiterate his argument so just listen to him yourself...

Iv tried to be as objective as I could. I listen to his argument and understood it...
My conclusion is... Rubbish... Bill Gates is almost certainly full of rubbish

 

[Lapidem]

I agree that's exactly what he said and meant. But has a counter-argument that should be fairly examined despite my bias against him...

He claims that he wasn't talking about the population, but the growth of the population.

It doesn't really matter whether its the existing population or the future growth of the population. BOTH hark to very serious assaults on humanity.

I'm willing to be convinced otherwise but anyone who tries must first explain how

"doing a really great job on NEW vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could LOWER population numbers"

My understanding of vaccines is that their purpose is to protect and save life not to kill it. Therefore I invite any Gates apologist to explain please any context, ANY CONTEXT, in which doing a good job on NEW vaccines can contribute to lowering population numbers.

Common sense would dictate that vaccines would serve to increase population numbers

The only alternative possibilities would be vaccines that were not vaccines at all but were pathological priming mechanisms and/or chemical cocktails which purposely damage human fertility.

If there are other possibilities then please enlighten me

 

[Deborah_]

My understanding of vaccines is that their purpose is to protect and save life not to kill it. Therefore I invite any Gates apologist to explain please any context, ANY CONTEXT, in which doing a good job on NEW vaccines can contribute to lowering population numbers.

Common sense would dictate that vaccines would serve to increase population numbers

The only alternative possibilities would be vaccines that were not vaccines at all but were pathological priming mechanisms and/or chemical cocktails which purposely damage human fertility.

If there are other possibilities then please enlighten me

The reasoning behind this is as follows: Improvements in public health have (historically) led to smaller family numbers. This has been evident since the 19th century in Europe and North America: reduce the childhood mortality rate, and the birth rate will fall over the next few decades. Improvements in sanitation, nutrition, and so on, as well as vaccination, mean that fewer children die from infectious diseases. So parents have less incentive to have large families - especially in societies where you need children to support you in your old age. Whereas in centuries past you might have 10 or more children yet only 1 or 2 might survive to adulthood, now we would expect all 10 to survive - and large families are expensive to feed, clothe and educate.

So it's not unreasonable to postulate that improving child survival in Africa and Asia will lead to smaller families there also - the initial bulge (as life expectancy improves) will eventually (after a couple of generations) lead to a slackening of population growth. We already have a shrinking population in many Western countries - not so much because people can't have children as because they don't want to have many children. For most of us, 1 or 2 are enough!

 

[Cristo Rei]

It doesn't really matter whether its the existing population or the future growth of the population. BOTH hark to very serious assaults on humanity.

I'm willing to be convinced otherwise but anyone who tries must first explain how

"doing a really great job on NEW vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could LOWER population numbers"

My understanding of vaccines is that their purpose is to protect and save life not to kill it. Therefore I invite any Gates apologist to explain please any context, ANY CONTEXT, in which doing a good job on NEW vaccines can contribute to lowering population numbers.

Common sense would dictate that vaccines would serve to increase population numbers

The only alternative possibilities would be vaccines that were not vaccines at all but were pathological priming mechanisms and/or chemical cocktails which purposely damage human fertility.

If there are other possibilities then please enlighten me

You missed my point. Watch that short 2-minute video. Bill gives you his theory on how his vaccines will lower the population growth

 

[Enoch111]

If there are other possibilities then please enlighten me

The globalist elites and their co-conspirators have discovered that bogus *vaccines* are even better biological weapons than actual viruses. They are ostensibly promoted to preserve health, but the opposite is the case. Therefore there is a worldwide push to vaccinate unsuspecting populations by the billions. Not only will these *vaccines* kill off many because they have antifreeze (polyethylene glycol) preserving the mRNA, but they will also lead to all kinds of diseases and health issues. And nobody knows what kinds of harmful results will take place when sub-zero temperatures fail and the *vaccine* is still used on the unsuspecting.

The agenda of course is to decimate populations. However, the bigger picture is to prepare the world for the reign of the Antichrist, by first establishing the New World Order (which began to be established from January 2020). About 99.9% of the world is already in bondage to lockdowns, masking, and distancing, even though it has now been clearly established that none of these measures are effective.

The bogus Scamdemic is now regarded as a fact, because there has been a propaganda war waged against ordinary citizens worldwide on a daily basis since January 2020. If you proclaim a lie long enough, it becomes established as truth. That is how tyrants and tyranny are established.

 

[Cristo Rei]

The reasoning behind this is as follows: Improvements in public health have (historically) led to smaller family numbers. This has been evident since the 19th century in Europe and North America: reduce the childhood mortality rate, and the birth rate will fall over the next few decades. Improvements in sanitation, nutrition, and so on, as well as vaccination, mean that fewer children die from infectious diseases. So parents have less incentive to have large families - especially in societies where you need children to support you in your old age. Whereas in centuries past you might have 10 or more children yet only 1 or 2 might survive to adulthood, now we would expect all 10 to survive - and large families are expensive to feed, clothe and educate.

So it's not unreasonable to postulate that improving child survival in Africa and Asia will lead to smaller families there also - the initial bulge (as life expectancy improves) will eventually (after a couple of generations) lead to a slackening of population growth. We already have a shrinking population in many Western countries - not so much because people can't have children as because they don't want to have many children. For most of us, 1 or 2 are enough!

So your actually pushing Bill Gates' reason...

Bill's idea that people had large families to have their kids look after them in old age is total baloney. It has no scientific basis whatsoever.
Then to assume that people are having fewer kids now because more of them will survive to care for them in old age is a fictional fantasy.

Anyone who has ever had kids would tell you that such thoughts were never entertained in their decision to have a child.
The price of living is the main reason why people rarely have more than 2 or 3 kids. Contraception and abortion help them achieve their goals

And your idea that only 1 in 10 babies survived to be adults must come from a time and place that I'm unaware of...
From some perspective, my mum was the youngest of 16 children. There were also 4 miscarriages and 2 that died at birth. to even close to the 10/1 odds your presenting

When asked how and why they had so many kids in a small and poor village the answer I got was that there was no contraception back then and that more children were considered a blessing.

This idea that parents have kids to care for them in old age is a desperate excuse to cover his tracks.
Im sad that you cannot see that and choose to align with such billionaires rather than your own people

 

[Deborah_]

Anyone who has ever had kids would tell you that such thoughts were never entertained in their decision to have a child.
The price of living is the main reason why people rarely have more than 2 or 3 kids.

That's certainly true now.

And your idea that only 1 in 10 babies survived to be adults must come from a time and place that I'm unaware of...

"Centuries ago", smallpox, diphtheria and cholera often wiped out whole families.

My grandmother (born at the end of the 19th century) was the eldest of 11, 9 of whom lived to adulthood. Her family did better than average for the time.