Davy
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How is it that you are unable to understand that the tribulation if OVER at the 6th seal? There it is, cut and dried, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION we have the cosmic signs of the sun, moon and stars. THAT OCCURS AT THE 6TH SEAL, not at the 7th trumpet of God's wrath.
If you could force yourself to put things where God says they go, you might gain understanding.
YOU are the one NOT staying with Scripture, because the 6th SEAL is HARD-LINKED with the 7th Trumpet and 7th Vial, revealing the 6th SEAL is also the LAST DAY like the both 7th trumpet and 7th vial are too! And the period of silence on the 7th Seal represents completeness, meaning this world is all over at that point. Thus Jesus comes on 777.
Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
It is that "Immediately after the tribulation of those days" that you should have recognized as being the LAST DAY of this world. But you say it is before... the last day which is not written.
Rev 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
WHY did you not quote the Revelation 6:14-16 verses after that, which actually reveal the END OF THIS PRESENT WORLD WITH JESUS FUTURE COMING?
I never heard of John Nelson Darby when I understood that the Lord is coming when you think not. Do you think that the Word is not true?
Your being silly now, obviously you don't know what to say next because of being caught in a bunch false doctrine. Since the crucifixion, the Christian Church always taught that Jesus returns to gather His Church at the end of the tribulation He warned about, until... John Darby's false pre-trib rapture teaching in 1830's Great Britain.
Actually, Jesus comes for His bride, the Church, before the 70th week of Daniel because the Jews served other God's. The Jews will be the second harvest which we see at the 6th seal when Jesus sends His angels to gather His elect from heaven and earth. Then of course Jesus will come with His armies from heaven and Armageddon will occur. That makes 3 coming of Jesus. I don't think that John Nelson Darby got that, do you?
NO, Jesus does NOT come for His Church PRIOR to the 70th week of Daniel. Saying so is one big fat LIE, and I think you well know it, because you are a FAKE come here to DECEIVE my Christian brethren!
Jesus will return to gather His 'faithful' Church on the FINAL DAY of this world, as written, and NOT before. That is at the END of the 70th week!
That is very EASY to document directly from God's written Word. YOU even quoted Scripture to that very fact! but then here in your final paragraph, you DENY it for some doctrine of man instead!
Jesus coming "as a thief" like He said, is on the "day of the Lord", which is the LAST DAY of this present world, and is when God's consuming fire will burn man's works off this earth, thus ending the great tribulation and punishing the wicked, and is also what the battle of Armageddon is about. At that same time, Jesus gathers His Church, both from Heaven of those He brings with Him, and those faithful still alive on earth, and they ALL WITH HIM GO TO JERUSALEM TO THE MOUNT OF OLIVES. The Armageddon battle happens when Jesus' feet touch down upon the Mount of Olives there in Jerusalem, as written. At that "last trump" the heavenly is revealed TO ALL PEOPLES ON EARTH, and all immediately go into the future heavenly world to come when Jesus will begin the "thousand years" reign with His elect over the wicked and deceived.