ATP said:
We already discussed this Barrd. 2 Peter 2:1 NIV states that this chapter is about false prophets and false teachers...2 Pet 2:1 NIV But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.
YOU believe that. I was not convinced.
Those verses speak of men who became false teachers.
2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
They had escaped the pollutions of this world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ--in other words, ATP, they were saved.
But they were again entangled in those pollutions...and overcome by them...and their latter end is worse for them than their beginning.
They had known the way of righteousness...but it would have been better for them if they had not known, than to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
There is no way that these people were not saved. They turned their backs on their salvation...
Did they become false teachers? Lord knows, ATP....we have plenty of those in our own day. Men who have turned from the truth to pour oil on itching ears...loving that paycheck that the church gives them every week more than they love God. You can see them every day on the television. You can see them every Sunday, preaching behind millions of pulpits all across America.
What is rare, I'm afraid, is to find a man who is willing to stand up and tell the truth....
But it isn't as if these were the only verses that show that OSAS is false:
2Pe 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
Jas 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Jas 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
Jas 5:12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
Heb 10:39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron
1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1Ti 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith.
1Ti 6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
1Ti 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
These are just a few of the verses that prove that OSAS is a lie. There are many others.
The point, my dear deluded friend, is that we need to take the entire Bible...every single verse, even the ones we don't like so much....maybe especially the ones we don't like so much....into consideration.