The False Idea of Replacement Theology

[Davy]

Just so you don't get the wrong idea, and to save you time reading this...

There is NO such thing as 'Replacement Theology', period.

Replacement Theology is a theory which some try to use against Christ's Church.

They came up with that theory because they are against any idea that God's Promises and Blessings migrated to Christ's Church.


PROOF that God's Birthright Promises and Blessings first given through Abraham, have become part of Christ's Church via The Gospel of Jesus Christ:

1. Back in the days of Solomon, God split the old nation of Israel into 2 separate kingdoms, because of Solomon allowing his many pagan wives to bring their idol worship in among Israel. 3 tribes in the lands of Judea-Jerusalem made up the "kingdom of Judah", and 10 tribes in the northern lands made up the "kingdom of Israel". (See 1 Kings 11 forward)

God gave Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim to be king over the northern ten tribes of Israel. The tribe of Ephraim was the larger among the ten tribes, and Solomon had previously set Jeroboam up as governor over the 10 northern tribes. This was strange, because God had before ordained the tribe of Judah to be the king tribe, and from Judah is where the line of kings down to king David and Solomon were descended from. Only king line from the tribe of Judah, and house of David, remained over the "kingdom of Judah" at Judea-Jerusalem. But Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim and kings from the ten tribes made up the line of kings over the "kingdom of Israel" made up of the ten northern tribes. And both kingdoms had war against each other.

Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim setup two gold calf idols in false worship among the northern ten tribes, so as to try and prevent the 10 tribes from going to down to Jerusalem to worship, and join sides with the "kingdom of Judah" (some of them did join with Judah). God eventually got fed up with that false worship, as the ten tribes allowed it to go on through many later kings over the northern 10 tribes. So God literally REMOVED all the ten northern tribes out of the land, captive to Assyria and the lands of the Medes by the kings of Assyria (see 2 Kings 17). And in their place, the king of Assyria placed pagan foreigners from five provinces of Babylon, each of the five bringing their false gods and idols with them. These became the Samaritan Gentiles.

2. The ten northern tribes of the "kingdom of Israel", also called the "house of Israel", never returned to the holy lands as a people. The Jewish historian Josephus (100 A.D.) said in his day the ten tribes were still beyond Euphrates, and were a great number, too many to be counted. Only the 3 tribed "house of Judah" (JEWS) remained in the holy land at Judea-Jerusalem in the south, as it still is to this day. The 10 tribes were not known as 'Jews' according to Josephus, as that title of 'Jew' he said was used by those who returned from Judah's later 70 years Babylon captivity (time of Daniel the prophet).

The 10 northern tribes of Israel, the majority of the children of Israel, were scattered among the Gentiles as God had promised He would do if they rebelled in following false worship (Deut.4 & 28). The 10 tribes then LOST their heritage as part of Israel. They became as Gentiles, living among the Gentiles, and forgetting knowledge of God's feast days, new moons, sabbaths, etc. The Jews of the "house of Judah" did not lose their heritage, but to this day have kept their heritage as part of old Israel, with God's feast days, new moons, sabbaths, etc. And God said this is what would happen via His prophet Hosea.

And yet God did not forget the 10 lost tribes, even though the world and the Jews lost them.

God brought the ten tribes through the wilderness, their migrating mainly to the west among the Gentiles. And there they would form the nations of Asia Minor and Europe, along with Gentiles. They took their false Baal worship with them there, as the many pagan worship styles in those new lands are revealed throughout the history of the western nations prior... to their accepting The Gospel of Jesus Christ on national scales.

When Lord Jesus and The Gospel was rejected by the Jews in Jerusalem, and Lord Jesus crucified, The Gospel then went to the Gentiles. And especially in Asia Minor and Europe The Gospel took root, eventually creating the western Christian nations of history.

Apostle Paul had thought to take The Gospel into the Far East Asian lands, but The Holy Spirit prevented him (Acts 16:6). That further confirms about where the majority of the ten tribes of Israel were scattered to, as Jesus said He was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the "house of Israel" (ten tribes).

What is little known though, is the majority of the 10 scattered tribes of Israel were among those western nations and helped form them in The Gospel. And there were scattered Jews also among them that began to convert to Jesus Christ and The Gospel. This is why Apostle James addresses all 12 tribes scattered abroad in James 1:1. Many of the Jews of the "house of Judah" were also scattered among the Gentiles from their own captivity to Babylon. Only a small remnant of Jews of the 3-tribe "house of Judah" actually returned to Jerusalem to rebuild Jerusalem and the 2nd temple (see Ezra 1 & 2). The majority of the "house of Judah" chose to stay in Babylon, because God had taken care of them there, and they had increased. But then they were later scattered like the ten tribes were.

So what the historical western Christian nations is about is God sending The Gospel to His chosen seed of Israel scattered there among the Gentiles. And then BOTH those of believing Israelites AND believing Gentiles, have become Christ's Church under Him and The New Covenant, which INCLUDE God's Birthright Promises and Blessings first given through Abraham.

All that is revealed from Bible Scripture (epsecially in the Books of Hosea and Isaiah), and is not a 'theory' from man. Especially in the Book of Isaiah, God promised His Salvation in Christ to the Gentiles also, and that they would be joined in His Promises. Apostle Paul actually repeated that too, in Ephesians 2 when he said the believing Gentile had become 'nigh' to the covenants and promises from God to Israel, and Paul even used the idea of the "commonwealth of Israel" under New Testament doctrine, to point to the believing Gentiles being joined in those promises to Israel. Moreover, in Galatians 3 and Romans 4, Apostle Paul even goes back to Abraham, and the promises God first gave Abraham, especially the Promise by Faith, which Paul showed even believing Gentiles have inherited WITH faithful Abraham.

So again, just WHO would be against all that, which is confirmed by God's written Word? and would come up with false monikers like "Replacement Theology"?

Deceived Jews, both orthodox unbelieving Jews especially, and those of them that have crept into Messianic congregations. That is most likely who would come up with ideas against God's Word about The Gospel going to the Gentiles also, with BOTH scattered Israelites of the 'seed' that believe on Jesus Christ, along with believing Gentiles, having become Christ's Church.

What those Bible Scriptures prove then, is that Christ's Church in no way means just a Gentile Church. There is no such thing. Christ's Church is ONLY about BOTH scattered Israelites and Gentiles, TOGETHER as ONE BODY in Christ Jesus. And since the 10 northern tribes of Israel made up the MAJORITY of the seed of the children of Israel, that means a MAJORITY of the "house of Israel" today are represented by Christ's Church.

Lord Jesus did say that He was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the "house of Israel". He was pointing to this very thing, that once He was rejected at Jerusalem, The Gospel would then go to the scattered 10 tribes of the "house of Israel". And if you understand that the tribe of Ephraim was the head tribe over the 10 tribes of Israel, that is also why the Genesis 48 prophecy that Ephraim would become "a multitude of nations" would be fulfilled in those western Christian nations by The Gospel of Jesus Christ!

 

[Truth7t7]

Just so you don't get the wrong idea, and to save you time reading this...

There is NO such thing as 'Replacement Theology', period.

Replacement Theology is a theory which some try to use against Christ's Church.

They came up with that theory because they are against any idea that God's Promises and Blessings migrated to Christ's Church.


PROOF that God's Birthright Promises and Blessings first given through Abraham, have become part of Christ's Church via The Gospel of Jesus Christ:

1. Back in the days of Solomon, God split the old nation of Israel into 2 separate kingdoms, because of Solomon allowing his many pagan wives to bring their idol worship in among Israel. 3 tribes in the lands of Judea-Jerusalem made up the "kingdom of Judah", and 10 tribes in the northern lands made up the "kingdom of Israel". (See 1 Kings 11 forward)

God gave Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim to be king over the northern ten tribes of Israel. The tribe of Ephraim was the larger among the ten tribes, and Solomon had previously set Jeroboam up as governor over the 10 northern tribes. This was strange, because God had before ordained the tribe of Judah to be the king tribe, and from Judah is where the line of kings down to king David and Solomon were descended from. Only king line from the tribe of Judah, and house of David, remained over the "kingdom of Judah" at Judea-Jerusalem. But Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim and kings from the ten tribes made up the line of kings over the "kingdom of Israel" made up of the ten northern tribes. And both kingdoms had war against each other.

Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim setup two gold calf idols in false worship among the northern ten tribes, so as to try and prevent the 10 tribes from going to down to Jerusalem to worship, and join sides with the "kingdom of Judah" (some of them did join with Judah). God eventually got fed up with that false worship, as the ten tribes allowed it to go on through many later kings over the northern 10 tribes. So God literally REMOVED all the ten northern tribes out of the land, captive to Assyria and the lands of the Medes by the kings of Assyria (see 2 Kings 17). And in their place, the king of Assyria placed pagan foreigners from five provinces of Babylon, each of the five bringing their false gods and idols with them. These became the Samaritan Gentiles.

2. The ten northern tribes of the "kingdom of Israel", also called the "house of Israel", never returned to the holy lands as a people. The Jewish historian Josephus (100 A.D.) said in his day the ten tribes were still beyond Euphrates, and were a great number, too many to be counted. Only the 3 tribed "house of Judah" (JEWS) remained in the holy land at Judea-Jerusalem in the south, as it still is to this day. The 10 tribes were not know as 'Jews' according to Josephus, as that title of 'Jew' he said was used by those who returned from Judah's later 70 years Babylon captivity (time of Daniel the prophet).

The 10 northern tribes of Israel, the majority of the children of Israel, were scattered among the Gentiles as God had promised He would do if they rebelled in following false worship (Deut.4 & 28). The 10 tribes then LOST their heritage as part of Israel. They became as Gentiles, living among the Gentiles, and forgetting knowledge of God's feast days, new moons, sabbaths, etc. The Jews of the "house of Judah" did not lose their heritage, but to this day have kept their heritage as part of old Israel, with God's feast days, new moons, sabbaths, etc. And God said this is what would happen via His prophet Hosea.

And yet God did not forget the 10 lost tribes, even though the world and the Jews lost them.

God brought the ten tribes through the wilderness, their migrating mainly to the west among the Gentiles. And there they would form the nations of Asia Minor and Europe, along with Gentiles. They took their false Baal worship with them there, as the many pagan worship styles in those new lands are revealed throughout the history of the western nations prior... to their accepting The Gospel of Jesus Christ on national scales.

When Lord Jesus and The Gospel was rejected by the Jews in Jerusalem, and Lord Jesus crucified, The Gospel then went to the Gentiles. And especially in Asia Minor and Europe The Gospel took root, eventually creating the western Christian nations of history.

What is little known though, is the majority of the 10 scattered tribes of Israel were among those western nations and helped form them in The Gospel. And there were scattered Jews also among them that began to convert to Jesus Christ and The Gospel. This is why Apostle James addresses all 12 tribes scattered abroad in James 1:1. Many of the Jews of the "house of Judah" were also scattered among the Gentiles from their own captivity to Babylon. Only a small remnant of Jews of the 3-tribe "house of Judah" actually returned to Jerusalem to rebuild Jerusalem and the 2nd temple (see Ezra 1 & 2). The majority of the "house of Judah" chose to stay in Babylon, because God had taken care of them there, and they had increased. But then they were later scattered like the ten tribes were.

So what the historical western Christian nations is about is God sending The Gospel to His chosen seed of Israel scattered there among the Gentiles. And then BOTH those of believing Israelites AND believing Gentiles, have become Christ's Church under Him and The New Covenant, which INCLUDE God's Birthright Promises and Blessings first given through Abraham.

All that is revealed from Bible Scripture (epsecially in the Books of Hosea and Isaiah), and is not a 'theory' from man. Especially in the Book of Isaiah, God promised His Salvation in Christ to the Gentiles also, and that they would be joined in His Promises. Apostle Paul actually repeated that too, in Ephesians 2 when he said the believing Gentile had become 'nigh' to the covenants and promises from God to Israel, and Paul even used the idea of the "commonwealth of Israel" under New Testament doctrine, to point to the believing Gentiles being joined in those promises to Israel. Moreover, in Galatians 3 and Romans 4, Apostle Paul even goes back to Abraham, and the promises God first gave Abraham, especially the Promise by Faith, which Paul showed even believing Gentiles have inherited WITH faithful Abraham.

So again, just WHO would be against all that, which is confirmed by God's written Word? and would come up with false monikers like "Replacement Theology"?

Deceived Jews, both orthodox unbelieving Jews especially, and those of them that have crept into Messianic congregations. That is most likely who would come up with ideas against God's Word about The Gospel going to the Gentiles also, with BOTH scattered Israelites of the 'seed' that believe on Jesus Christ, along with believing Gentiles, having become Christ's Church.

What those Bible Scriptures prove then, is that Christ's Church in no way means just a Gentile Church. There is no such thing. Christ's Church is ONLY about BOTH scattered Israelites and Gentiles, TOGETHER as ONE BODY in Christ Jesus. And since the 10 northern tribes of Israel made up the MAJORITY of the seed of the children of Israel, that means a MAJORITY of the "house of Israel" today are represented by Christ's Church.

Lord Jesus did say that He was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the "house of Israel". He was pointing to this very thing, that once He was rejected at Jerusalem, The Gospel would then go to the scattered 10 tribes of the "house of Israel". And if you understand that the tribe of Ephraim was the head tribe over the 10 tribes of Israel, that is also why the Genesis 48 prophecy that Ephraim would become "a multitude of nations" would be fulfilled in those western Christian nations by The Gospel of Jesus Christ!

The words (Replacement Theology) was invented by those within the Zionist camps in dispensationalism, those that falsely believe and teach (Dual Covenant Theology) in that God has a covenant with the church, and a separate covenant with Israel/Jews

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Just so you don't get the wrong idea, and to save you time reading this...

There is NO such thing as 'Replacement Theology', period.

Well, here's one thing we agree on. I have pointed this out before as well. Those of us who can see that God's promises apply to both Jew and Gentile believers understand that no one has been replaced, but rather that Gentile believers have been joined together with Israelite believers in "one body" by way of the blood of Christ.

If someone wants to put a label on this then they could call it something like "unity theology" rather than "replacement theology" since it unites all believers together as one rather than replacing anyone.

Replacement Theology is a theory which some try to use against Christ's Church.

They came up with that theory because they are against any idea that God's Promises and Blessings migrated to Christ's Church.

Right. That was God's plan all along which they don't understand and don't accept despite the fact that it's plainly stated in New Testament scripture many times.

 

[WPM]

Just so you don't get the wrong idea, and to save you time reading this...

There is NO such thing as 'Replacement Theology', period.

Replacement Theology is a theory which some try to use against Christ's Church.

They came up with that theory because they are against any idea that God's Promises and Blessings migrated to Christ's Church.


PROOF that God's Birthright Promises and Blessings first given through Abraham, have become part of Christ's Church via The Gospel of Jesus Christ:

1. Back in the days of Solomon, God split the old nation of Israel into 2 separate kingdoms, because of Solomon allowing his many pagan wives to bring their idol worship in among Israel. 3 tribes in the lands of Judea-Jerusalem made up the "kingdom of Judah", and 10 tribes in the northern lands made up the "kingdom of Israel". (See 1 Kings 11 forward)

God gave Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim to be king over the northern ten tribes of Israel. The tribe of Ephraim was the larger among the ten tribes, and Solomon had previously set Jeroboam up as governor over the 10 northern tribes. This was strange, because God had before ordained the tribe of Judah to be the king tribe, and from Judah is where the line of kings down to king David and Solomon were descended from. Only king line from the tribe of Judah, and house of David, remained over the "kingdom of Judah" at Judea-Jerusalem. But Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim and kings from the ten tribes made up the line of kings over the "kingdom of Israel" made up of the ten northern tribes. And both kingdoms had war against each other.

Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim setup two gold calf idols in false worship among the northern ten tribes, so as to try and prevent the 10 tribes from going to down to Jerusalem to worship, and join sides with the "kingdom of Judah" (some of them did join with Judah). God eventually got fed up with that false worship, as the ten tribes allowed it to go on through many later kings over the northern 10 tribes. So God literally REMOVED all the ten northern tribes out of the land, captive to Assyria and the lands of the Medes by the kings of Assyria (see 2 Kings 17). And in their place, the king of Assyria placed pagan foreigners from five provinces of Babylon, each of the five bringing their false gods and idols with them. These became the Samaritan Gentiles.

2. The ten northern tribes of the "kingdom of Israel", also called the "house of Israel", never returned to the holy lands as a people. The Jewish historian Josephus (100 A.D.) said in his day the ten tribes were still beyond Euphrates, and were a great number, too many to be counted. Only the 3 tribed "house of Judah" (JEWS) remained in the holy land at Judea-Jerusalem in the south, as it still is to this day. The 10 tribes were not know as 'Jews' according to Josephus, as that title of 'Jew' he said was used by those who returned from Judah's later 70 years Babylon captivity (time of Daniel the prophet).

The 10 northern tribes of Israel, the majority of the children of Israel, were scattered among the Gentiles as God had promised He would do if they rebelled in following false worship (Deut.4 & 28). The 10 tribes then LOST their heritage as part of Israel. They became as Gentiles, living among the Gentiles, and forgetting knowledge of God's feast days, new moons, sabbaths, etc. The Jews of the "house of Judah" did not lose their heritage, but to this day have kept their heritage as part of old Israel, with God's feast days, new moons, sabbaths, etc. And God said this is what would happen via His prophet Hosea.

And yet God did not forget the 10 lost tribes, even though the world and the Jews lost them.

God brought the ten tribes through the wilderness, their migrating mainly to the west among the Gentiles. And there they would form the nations of Asia Minor and Europe, along with Gentiles. They took their false Baal worship with them there, as the many pagan worship styles in those new lands are revealed throughout the history of the western nations prior... to their accepting The Gospel of Jesus Christ on national scales.

When Lord Jesus and The Gospel was rejected by the Jews in Jerusalem, and Lord Jesus crucified, The Gospel then went to the Gentiles. And especially in Asia Minor and Europe The Gospel took root, eventually creating the western Christian nations of history.

What is little known though, is the majority of the 10 scattered tribes of Israel were among those western nations and helped form them in The Gospel. And there were scattered Jews also among them that began to convert to Jesus Christ and The Gospel. This is why Apostle James addresses all 12 tribes scattered abroad in James 1:1. Many of the Jews of the "house of Judah" were also scattered among the Gentiles from their own captivity to Babylon. Only a small remnant of Jews of the 3-tribe "house of Judah" actually returned to Jerusalem to rebuild Jerusalem and the 2nd temple (see Ezra 1 & 2). The majority of the "house of Judah" chose to stay in Babylon, because God had taken care of them there, and they had increased. But then they were later scattered like the ten tribes were.

So what the historical western Christian nations is about is God sending The Gospel to His chosen seed of Israel scattered there among the Gentiles. And then BOTH those of believing Israelites AND believing Gentiles, have become Christ's Church under Him and The New Covenant, which INCLUDE God's Birthright Promises and Blessings first given through Abraham.

All that is revealed from Bible Scripture (epsecially in the Books of Hosea and Isaiah), and is not a 'theory' from man. Especially in the Book of Isaiah, God promised His Salvation in Christ to the Gentiles also, and that they would be joined in His Promises. Apostle Paul actually repeated that too, in Ephesians 2 when he said the believing Gentile had become 'nigh' to the covenants and promises from God to Israel, and Paul even used the idea of the "commonwealth of Israel" under New Testament doctrine, to point to the believing Gentiles being joined in those promises to Israel. Moreover, in Galatians 3 and Romans 4, Apostle Paul even goes back to Abraham, and the promises God first gave Abraham, especially the Promise by Faith, which Paul showed even believing Gentiles have inherited WITH faithful Abraham.

So again, just WHO would be against all that, which is confirmed by God's written Word? and would come up with false monikers like "Replacement Theology"?

The New Testament Church has not replaced anybody. “Replacement Theology” is a moot term that Dispensationalists have invented to falsify the position of those they disagree with. Dispensationalists created this bogus term in an attempt to stem the growing rejection of Dispensationalism. That is why it is used pejoratively. However, this term does not fit. It is inappropriate, insulting and misleading. Dispensationalists would be better advised to stop hurling this deceptive and illusionary charge against brethren who by conviction oppose the very concept alleged.

Some more extreme elements within Premillennialism have even accused those who believe that the New Testament Church is the sole continuation of the Israel of Israel in the Old Testament as being anti-Semitic. When they hurl such a grave charge, they instantly lose the debate. No one is going to seriously engage with a fellow believer who is determined to deliberately misrepresent and unfairly insult them.

We should remember, the Bible teaches that Jew and Gentile alike who trust Christ are completely equal today, being part of the one unitary trans-national body. The saints in the New Testament are therefore harmoniously connected to the saints in the Old Testament. This is the only people that carry the favor and blessing of the Lord. The term “Replacement Theology” is therefore plainly a misnomer, and should be rejected by all fair-minded Bible-believing students.

Contrary to what Dispensationalists argue, the New Testament Church is not a Gentile organization. The Church is a multi-national spiritual community of believers which embraces all nationalities equally, both Jew and Gentile. Remember, our Savior was Jewish. His mission was focused on “the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 10:5-6 and 15:24). Christ’s first followers were all Jewish. His apostles were all Jewish. The early move of God in the gospels and the book of Acts was among the Jewish people. The New Testament was then written by Jews.

For “Replacement Theology” to be a valid charge against those who believe Christ has only ever had one elect people, Israel would have to be God’s chosen people in their current rebellious state. This is a scriptural impossibility. God’s blessings have never been tied to a people of unbelief but rather to a people of faith. So, when we look at both the faithful in the Old and New Testaments we are looking at the same unitary people, only larger in scale.

Theologian Gordon H. Clark writes, “the Church in the New Testament is continuous with the Church in the Old; and since we are Christ’s, we are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise” (Gal. 3:23; 4:7)” (What Do Presbyterians Believe?).

There is undoubtedly a strong common thread and a unitary bond that ties the elect of God of all time together. They are all born sinners. They are all saved by God’s “grace” through “faith” in Christ and His shed blood at Calvary. Keeping this cohesive feature in mind, we should note the development of this redeemed people of God from a small insignificant people largely within the small nation of natural Israel into a strong global force today from every nation, color and creed on the earth.

 

[The Light]

Just so you don't get the wrong idea, and to save you time reading this...

There is NO such thing as 'Replacement Theology', period.

Replacement Theology is a theory which some try to use against Christ's Church.

They came up with that theory because they are against any idea that God's Promises and Blessings migrated to Christ's Church.


PROOF that God's Birthright Promises and Blessings first given through Abraham, have become part of Christ's Church via The Gospel of Jesus Christ:

1. Back in the days of Solomon, God split the old nation of Israel into 2 separate kingdoms, because of Solomon allowing his many pagan wives to bring their idol worship in among Israel. 3 tribes in the lands of Judea-Jerusalem made up the "kingdom of Judah", and 10 tribes in the northern lands made up the "kingdom of Israel". (See 1 Kings 11 forward)

God gave Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim to be king over the northern ten tribes of Israel. The tribe of Ephraim was the larger among the ten tribes, and Solomon had previously set Jeroboam up as governor over the 10 northern tribes. This was strange, because God had before ordained the tribe of Judah to be the king tribe, and from Judah is where the line of kings down to king David and Solomon were descended from. Only king line from the tribe of Judah, and house of David, remained over the "kingdom of Judah" at Judea-Jerusalem. But Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim and kings from the ten tribes made up the line of kings over the "kingdom of Israel" made up of the ten northern tribes. And both kingdoms had war against each other.

Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim setup two gold calf idols in false worship among the northern ten tribes, so as to try and prevent the 10 tribes from going to down to Jerusalem to worship, and join sides with the "kingdom of Judah" (some of them did join with Judah). God eventually got fed up with that false worship, as the ten tribes allowed it to go on through many later kings over the northern 10 tribes. So God literally REMOVED all the ten northern tribes out of the land, captive to Assyria and the lands of the Medes by the kings of Assyria (see 2 Kings 17). And in their place, the king of Assyria placed pagan foreigners from five provinces of Babylon, each of the five bringing their false gods and idols with them. These became the Samaritan Gentiles.

2. The ten northern tribes of the "kingdom of Israel", also called the "house of Israel", never returned to the holy lands as a people. The Jewish historian Josephus (100 A.D.) said in his day the ten tribes were still beyond Euphrates, and were a great number, too many to be counted. Only the 3 tribed "house of Judah" (JEWS) remained in the holy land at Judea-Jerusalem in the south, as it still is to this day. The 10 tribes were not know as 'Jews' according to Josephus, as that title of 'Jew' he said was used by those who returned from Judah's later 70 years Babylon captivity (time of Daniel the prophet).

The 10 northern tribes of Israel, the majority of the children of Israel, were scattered among the Gentiles as God had promised He would do if they rebelled in following false worship (Deut.4 & 28). The 10 tribes then LOST their heritage as part of Israel. They became as Gentiles, living among the Gentiles, and forgetting knowledge of God's feast days, new moons, sabbaths, etc. The Jews of the "house of Judah" did not lose their heritage, but to this day have kept their heritage as part of old Israel, with God's feast days, new moons, sabbaths, etc. And God said this is what would happen via His prophet Hosea.

And yet God did not forget the 10 lost tribes, even though the world and the Jews lost them.

God brought the ten tribes through the wilderness, their migrating mainly to the west among the Gentiles. And there they would form the nations of Asia Minor and Europe, along with Gentiles. They took their false Baal worship with them there, as the many pagan worship styles in those new lands are revealed throughout the history of the western nations prior... to their accepting The Gospel of Jesus Christ on national scales.

When Lord Jesus and The Gospel was rejected by the Jews in Jerusalem, and Lord Jesus crucified, The Gospel then went to the Gentiles. And especially in Asia Minor and Europe The Gospel took root, eventually creating the western Christian nations of history.

What is little known though, is the majority of the 10 scattered tribes of Israel were among those western nations and helped form them in The Gospel. And there were scattered Jews also among them that began to convert to Jesus Christ and The Gospel. This is why Apostle James addresses all 12 tribes scattered abroad in James 1:1. Many of the Jews of the "house of Judah" were also scattered among the Gentiles from their own captivity to Babylon. Only a small remnant of Jews of the 3-tribe "house of Judah" actually returned to Jerusalem to rebuild Jerusalem and the 2nd temple (see Ezra 1 & 2). The majority of the "house of Judah" chose to stay in Babylon, because God had taken care of them there, and they had increased. But then they were later scattered like the ten tribes were.

So what the historical western Christian nations is about is God sending The Gospel to His chosen seed of Israel scattered there among the Gentiles. And then BOTH those of believing Israelites AND believing Gentiles, have become Christ's Church under Him and The New Covenant, which INCLUDE God's Birthright Promises and Blessings first given through Abraham.

All that is revealed from Bible Scripture (epsecially in the Books of Hosea and Isaiah), and is not a 'theory' from man. Especially in the Book of Isaiah, God promised His Salvation in Christ to the Gentiles also, and that they would be joined in His Promises. Apostle Paul actually repeated that too, in Ephesians 2 when he said the believing Gentile had become 'nigh' to the covenants and promises from God to Israel, and Paul even used the idea of the "commonwealth of Israel" under New Testament doctrine, to point to the believing Gentiles being joined in those promises to Israel. Moreover, in Galatians 3 and Romans 4, Apostle Paul even goes back to Abraham, and the promises God first gave Abraham, especially the Promise by Faith, which Paul showed even believing Gentiles have inherited WITH faithful Abraham.

So again, just WHO would be against all that, which is confirmed by God's written Word? and would come up with false monikers like "Replacement Theology"?

Deceived Jews, both orthodox unbelieving Jews especially, and those of them that have crept into Messianic congregations. That is most likely who would come up with ideas against God's Word about The Gospel going to the Gentiles also, with BOTH scattered Israelites of the 'seed' that believe on Jesus Christ, along with believing Gentiles, having become Christ's Church.

What those Bible Scriptures prove then, is that Christ's Church in no way means just a Gentile Church. There is no such thing. Christ's Church is ONLY about BOTH scattered Israelites and Gentiles, TOGETHER as ONE BODY in Christ Jesus. And since the 10 northern tribes of Israel made up the MAJORITY of the seed of the children of Israel, that means a MAJORITY of the "house of Israel" today are represented by Christ's Church.

Lord Jesus did say that He was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the "house of Israel". He was pointing to this very thing, that once He was rejected at Jerusalem, The Gospel would then go to the scattered 10 tribes of the "house of Israel". And if you understand that the tribe of Ephraim was the head tribe over the 10 tribes of Israel, that is also why the Genesis 48 prophecy that Ephraim would become "a multitude of nations" would be fulfilled in those western Christian nations by The Gospel of Jesus Christ!

Just wondering why you would even have a slight inkling that God will not keep His promise to His chosen? Augustine and few others sold Christians some swamp land. Since there was no nation of Israel it was easy to teach this doctrine of man that the Church had replaced Israel to so many. From the time the nation of Israel was born in a day, you would think this doctrine would blow away in the wind. This false teaching is here to end.......which is very soon.

 

[WPM]

Just wondering why you would even have a slight inkling that God will not keep His promise to His chosen? Augustine and few others sold Christians some swamp land. Since there was no nation of Israel it was easy to teach this doctrine of man that the Church had replaced Israel to so many. From the time the nation of Israel was born in a day, you would think this doctrine would blow away in the wind. This false teaching is here to end.......which is very soon.

So, is Christ-rejecting Israel God's chosen people?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Just wondering why you would even have a slight inkling that God will not keep His promise to His chosen?

What promise are you talking about exactly and who do you think are His chosen? Do you not think you are one of God's chosen?

 

[Davy]

The words (Replacement Theology) was invented by those within the Zionist camps in dispensationalism, those that falsely believe and teach (Dual Covenant Theology) in that God has a covenant with the church, and a separate covenant with Israel/Jews

Yes, Dispensationalism likely originated from the Jews, because Darby and Bullinger's Dispensationalist theories have the 'seed' of the nation of Israel restored on earth while the Church is in Heaven with Jesus through the future Millennium. That idea is actually an oxymoron, because probably most of the original congregations in The Gospel in the West were descendants from the 12 tribes of Israel. So how are Israelites of the seed in Christ's Church going to be in Heaven while Israel is restored on earth? Not going to happen that way. The Church inherits the lands of Israel on the day of Christ's future coming, and that where Christ and His elect will reign over the nations from.

 

[Truth7t7]

The Church inherits the lands of Israel on the day of Christ's future coming, and that where Christ and His elect will reign over the nations from.

Many claim Jesus will literally return and rule "On This Earth" In A Millennium, this being false in deception

Jesus warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as many claim

The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"!

"Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Revelation 13:13-14KJV
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

 

[Truth7t7]

The Church inherits the lands of Israel on the day of Christ's future coming, and that where Christ and His elect will reign over the nations from.

The Eternal Kingdom is seen in Ezekiel Chapters 47-48 regarding the division of land for inheritance in the "New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem"

"The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven And Earth" Where The New Jerusalem, And The River/Tree Of Life Are Present

Revelation 22:1-2KJV
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Ezekiel 47:12-14KJV
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.
13 Thus saith the Lord God; This shall be the border, whereby ye shall inherit the land according to the twelve tribes of Israel: Joseph shall have two portions.
14 And ye shall inherit it, one as well as another: concerning the which I lifted up mine hand to give it unto your fathers: and this land shall fall unto you for inheritance.

"The Eternal New Jerusalem"

Ezekiel 48:29-35KJV
29 This is the land which ye shall divide by lot unto the tribes of Israel for inheritance, and these are their portions, saith the Lord God.
30 And these are the goings out of the city on the north side, four thousand and five hundred measures.
31 And the gates of the city shall be after the names of the tribes of Israel: three gates northward; one gate of Reuben, one gate of Judah, one gate of Levi.

"The Eternal New Jerusalem"

Revelation 21:10-12KJV
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

 

[Davy]

The Eternal Kingdom is seen in Ezekiel Chapters 47-48 regarding the division of land for inheritance in the "New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem"

Nope! You are reading the false Amillennial view into those Ezekiel chapters.

The Ezekiel 40 through 47 chapters are ALL future Millennial reign chapters when Jesus returns in our near future to reign over all nations, on earth, with His elect.

Just because you don't understand how God's River of Genesis 2 and the Tree of Life returns WITH Lord Jesus Christ at His coming, you think that has to mean those things can only be for the new heavens and a new earth timing.

Yet Zechariah 14:6-9 reveals the return of that River while the wicked leftovers that came against Jerusalem are made to bow to Christ in that future "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20.

Even Revelation 22:14-15 is pointing to the wicked still existing OUTSIDE the gates of the holy city while those allowed inside the gates have right to the Tree of Life.

Those Scriptures reveal the existence of that Tree of Life and God's River WITH A STANDING TEMPLE in the area of the holy land! Per Revelation, in the new heavens and a new earth, THERE WILL BE NO MORE TEMPLE.

 

[Truth7t7]

Nope! You are reading the false Amillennial view into those Ezekiel chapters.

The Ezekiel 40 through 47 chapters are ALL future Millennial reign chapters when Jesus returns in our near future to reign over all nations, on earth, with His elect.

Just because you don't understand how God's River of Genesis 2 and the Tree of Life returns WITH Lord Jesus Christ at His coming, you think that has to mean those things can only be for the new heavens and a new earth timing.

Yet Zechariah 14:6-9 reveals the return of that River while the wicked leftovers that came against Jerusalem are made to bow to Christ in that future "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20.

Even Revelation 22:14-15 is pointing to the wicked still existing OUTSIDE the gates of the holy city while those allowed inside the gates have right to the Tree of Life.

Those Scriptures reveal the existence of that Tree of Life and God's River WITH A STANDING TEMPLE in the area of the holy land! Per Revelation, in the new heavens and a new earth, THERE WILL BE NO MORE TEMPLE.

Ezekiel chapters 47-48 represents the eternal New Jerusalem, same river and tree of life, same names of the 12 tribes of Israel on its gates

The Lake of fire will be outside the gates of New Jerusalem

We Disagree

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Zao is life]

Just so you don't get the wrong idea, and to save you time reading this...

There is NO such thing as 'Replacement Theology', period.

Replacement Theology is a theory which some try to use against Christ's Church.

They came up with that theory because they are against any idea that God's Promises and Blessings migrated to Christ's Church.


PROOF that God's Birthright Promises and Blessings first given through Abraham, have become part of Christ's Church via The Gospel of Jesus Christ:

I agree. It's all scriptural.

"As for Me, behold! My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations [more literally translated from the Hebrew as: a multitude of goy]." Genesis 17:4

"I know, my son, I know. He (Manasseh) also shall become a people, and he also shall be great, but truly his younger brother (Ephraim) shall be greater than he is, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations [more literally translated from the Hebrew as: the fullness of Goy]." Genesis 48:19

"For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and within sixty-five years Ephraim shall be broken so that it shall not be a people.
And the head of Ephraim is Samaria, and the head of Samaria is Remaliah's son. If you will not believe, surely you shall not be established." Isaiah 7:8-9.

"And He said, Call his name Not-my-people. For you are not My people, and I will not be for you.
Yet the number of the sons of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered. And it shall be, in the place where it was said to them, You are not My people, there it shall be said to them, You are the sons of the living God.
Then the sons of Judah and the sons of Israel shall be gathered together, and shall set over themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land. For great shall be the day of Jezreel." Hosea 1:9-11

Romans 9
22 What if God, willing to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much long-suffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction;
23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy which He had before prepared to glory;
24 whom He also called, not only us, of Jews, but also of the nations?

25 As He also says in Hosea, "I will call those not My people, My people; and those not beloved, Beloved."
26 And it shall be, in the place where it was said to them. "You are not My people; there they shall be called sons of the living God."

30 What shall we say then? That the nations, who did not follow after righteousness have taken on righteousness, but a righteousness of faith.
31 But Israel, who followed after a law of righteousness did not arrive at a law of righteousness.
32 Why? Because it was not of faith, but as it were by the works of the Law. For they stumbled at that Stumbling-stone;

The confusion comes in for some because Paul uses the word "Jews" and "Israel" interchangeably, but it's obvious that he believed what you are saying (and what I have been saying for many years), because if he did not, then he would not have quoted Hosea 1:9-11 when including the Gentiles in the promise that the very people who God said are no longer His people / not His people would one day be called "the sons of the living God".

The 10 tribes then LOST their heritage as part of Israel. They became as Gentiles, living among the Gentiles, and forgetting knowledge of God's feast days, new moons, sabbaths, etc.

For the first time I realize that it sounds oddly like the claims in the book of Mormon, except that it's true, and it's also true that many Gentiles in the West after having DNA tests discover they have a small percentage of Semitic genes somewhere in their ancestry, whereas American Indians do not (as far as I know), unless they are mixed with Europeans in their ancestry, and those Europeans have Semitic genes in theirs.

But genetic ancestry never made any difference to God when He promised Abraham, "As for Me, behold! My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations [more literally translated from the Hebrew as: a multitude of goy]." Genesis 17:4.

It was God's first promise to Abraham. Abraham's seed (Jesus) through whom all the families of the earth would be blessed, would descend from Isaac, and Jacob, and Judah. His seed is not "seeds" as Paul stated, it's one seed: Christ. Salvation and God's election is only found in Him, Jesus, the seed of Abraham.

 

[Randy Kluth]

Just so you don't get the wrong idea, and to save you time reading this...

There is NO such thing as 'Replacement Theology', period.

Replacement Theology is a theory which some try to use against Christ's Church.

They came up with that theory because they are against any idea that God's Promises and Blessings migrated to Christ's Church.


PROOF that God's Birthright Promises and Blessings first given through Abraham, have become part of Christ's Church via The Gospel of Jesus Christ:

1. Back in the days of Solomon, God split the old nation of Israel into 2 separate kingdoms, because of Solomon allowing his many pagan wives to bring their idol worship in among Israel. 3 tribes in the lands of Judea-Jerusalem made up the "kingdom of Judah", and 10 tribes in the northern lands made up the "kingdom of Israel". (See 1 Kings 11 forward)

God gave Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim to be king over the northern ten tribes of Israel. The tribe of Ephraim was the larger among the ten tribes, and Solomon had previously set Jeroboam up as governor over the 10 northern tribes. This was strange, because God had before ordained the tribe of Judah to be the king tribe, and from Judah is where the line of kings down to king David and Solomon were descended from. Only king line from the tribe of Judah, and house of David, remained over the "kingdom of Judah" at Judea-Jerusalem. But Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim and kings from the ten tribes made up the line of kings over the "kingdom of Israel" made up of the ten northern tribes. And both kingdoms had war against each other.

Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim setup two gold calf idols in false worship among the northern ten tribes, so as to try and prevent the 10 tribes from going to down to Jerusalem to worship, and join sides with the "kingdom of Judah" (some of them did join with Judah). God eventually got fed up with that false worship, as the ten tribes allowed it to go on through many later kings over the northern 10 tribes. So God literally REMOVED all the ten northern tribes out of the land, captive to Assyria and the lands of the Medes by the kings of Assyria (see 2 Kings 17). And in their place, the king of Assyria placed pagan foreigners from five provinces of Babylon, each of the five bringing their false gods and idols with them. These became the Samaritan Gentiles.

2. The ten northern tribes of the "kingdom of Israel", also called the "house of Israel", never returned to the holy lands as a people. The Jewish historian Josephus (100 A.D.) said in his day the ten tribes were still beyond Euphrates, and were a great number, too many to be counted. Only the 3 tribed "house of Judah" (JEWS) remained in the holy land at Judea-Jerusalem in the south, as it still is to this day. The 10 tribes were not know as 'Jews' according to Josephus, as that title of 'Jew' he said was used by those who returned from Judah's later 70 years Babylon captivity (time of Daniel the prophet).

The 10 northern tribes of Israel, the majority of the children of Israel, were scattered among the Gentiles as God had promised He would do if they rebelled in following false worship (Deut.4 & 28). The 10 tribes then LOST their heritage as part of Israel. They became as Gentiles, living among the Gentiles, and forgetting knowledge of God's feast days, new moons, sabbaths, etc. The Jews of the "house of Judah" did not lose their heritage, but to this day have kept their heritage as part of old Israel, with God's feast days, new moons, sabbaths, etc. And God said this is what would happen via His prophet Hosea.

And yet God did not forget the 10 lost tribes, even though the world and the Jews lost them.

God brought the ten tribes through the wilderness, their migrating mainly to the west among the Gentiles. And there they would form the nations of Asia Minor and Europe, along with Gentiles. They took their false Baal worship with them there, as the many pagan worship styles in those new lands are revealed throughout the history of the western nations prior... to their accepting The Gospel of Jesus Christ on national scales.

When Lord Jesus and The Gospel was rejected by the Jews in Jerusalem, and Lord Jesus crucified, The Gospel then went to the Gentiles. And especially in Asia Minor and Europe The Gospel took root, eventually creating the western Christian nations of history.

What is little known though, is the majority of the 10 scattered tribes of Israel were among those western nations and helped form them in The Gospel. And there were scattered Jews also among them that began to convert to Jesus Christ and The Gospel. This is why Apostle James addresses all 12 tribes scattered abroad in James 1:1. Many of the Jews of the "house of Judah" were also scattered among the Gentiles from their own captivity to Babylon. Only a small remnant of Jews of the 3-tribe "house of Judah" actually returned to Jerusalem to rebuild Jerusalem and the 2nd temple (see Ezra 1 & 2). The majority of the "house of Judah" chose to stay in Babylon, because God had taken care of them there, and they had increased. But then they were later scattered like the ten tribes were.

So what the historical western Christian nations is about is God sending The Gospel to His chosen seed of Israel scattered there among the Gentiles. And then BOTH those of believing Israelites AND believing Gentiles, have become Christ's Church under Him and The New Covenant, which INCLUDE God's Birthright Promises and Blessings first given through Abraham.

All that is revealed from Bible Scripture (epsecially in the Books of Hosea and Isaiah), and is not a 'theory' from man. Especially in the Book of Isaiah, God promised His Salvation in Christ to the Gentiles also, and that they would be joined in His Promises. Apostle Paul actually repeated that too, in Ephesians 2 when he said the believing Gentile had become 'nigh' to the covenants and promises from God to Israel, and Paul even used the idea of the "commonwealth of Israel" under New Testament doctrine, to point to the believing Gentiles being joined in those promises to Israel. Moreover, in Galatians 3 and Romans 4, Apostle Paul even goes back to Abraham, and the promises God first gave Abraham, especially the Promise by Faith, which Paul showed even believing Gentiles have inherited WITH faithful Abraham.

So again, just WHO would be against all that, which is confirmed by God's written Word? and would come up with false monikers like "Replacement Theology"?

Deceived Jews, both orthodox unbelieving Jews especially, and those of them that have crept into Messianic congregations. That is most likely who would come up with ideas against God's Word about The Gospel going to the Gentiles also, with BOTH scattered Israelites of the 'seed' that believe on Jesus Christ, along with believing Gentiles, having become Christ's Church.

What those Bible Scriptures prove then, is that Christ's Church in no way means just a Gentile Church. There is no such thing. Christ's Church is ONLY about BOTH scattered Israelites and Gentiles, TOGETHER as ONE BODY in Christ Jesus. And since the 10 northern tribes of Israel made up the MAJORITY of the seed of the children of Israel, that means a MAJORITY of the "house of Israel" today are represented by Christ's Church.

Lord Jesus did say that He was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the "house of Israel". He was pointing to this very thing, that once He was rejected at Jerusalem, The Gospel would then go to the scattered 10 tribes of the "house of Israel". And if you understand that the tribe of Ephraim was the head tribe over the 10 tribes of Israel, that is also why the Genesis 48 prophecy that Ephraim would become "a multitude of nations" would be fulfilled in those western Christian nations by The Gospel of Jesus Christ!

Your version of the Gospel seems to make the inclusion of the Israelite race an essential part of the purpose of God reaching out to the Gentiles. But nowhere is this indicated. The scattering of Jews among the Jews is indicated, but the essential element of Jewish mixture is not indicated as a critical part of the Gospel outreach.

 

[Keraz]

Its a bit hard to figure out just what people believe on the issue of who are Gods people today.
But New Testament teaching is irrefutable: ONLY those who have come to God through the Lord Jesus are saved and become the true people of God. Matthew 5:14
Ethnicity has nothing to do with Salvation and becoming a true Israelite of God. Ephesians 2:11-18

But God does have a secret, it will be mainly descendants of Jacob who will make up the majority of Gods people during the end times. For now we cannot know who are actual descendants according to Gods criteria, only He knows. Amos 9:9

It's simple really and there should be no argument about it, however there are many who choose to believe that the Jews have an inside track and will all be redeemed by the time Jesus Returns, That this theory has no Bible support and many Prophesies tell of their virtual demise, is ignored and prophesies like Zechariah 12:11-15 is assumed to mean all the Jewish people, instead of just a remnant, as Paul says. Romans 9:27

 

[Randy Kluth]

Its a bit hard to figure out just what people believe on the issue of who are Gods people today.
But New Testament teaching is irrefutable: ONLY those who have come to God through the Lord Jesus are saved and become the true people of God. Matthew 5:14
Ethnicity has nothing to do with Salvation and becoming a true Israelite of God. Ephesians 2:11-18

Would you say that Humanity has nothing to do with Salvation and becoming a true Israelite of God? If not, why is Ethnicity any less a matter than Humanity?

In my understanding of Scriptures, God chose an Ethnicity to begin with, in choosing Israel. The addition of more Ethnicities did not contradict Ethnicity, but rather, added Ethnicities.

If Diversity figures into God's plan, and it does, then Ethnicity is an essential element in determining Diveristy.

 

[WPM]

Would you say that Humanity has nothing to do with Salvation and becoming a true Israelite of God? If not, why is Ethnicity any less a matter than Humanity?

In my understanding of Scriptures, God chose an Ethnicity to begin with, in choosing Israel. The addition of more Ethnicities did not contradict Ethnicity, but rather, added Ethnicities.

If Diversity figures into God's plan, and it does, then Ethnicity is an essential element in determining Diveristy.

Hello! Breaking news: we have entered the new covenant. The old is gone forever. Race means nothing today. It is all about grace. The Gospel is open equally to Jews and Gentiles alike. There is no racial favoritism any more. Thank God!

None of us disagree that God is not finished with Israel. But they will not be restored to their favored old covenant theocratic status because the new covenant has superseded that arrangement. The favor of God is now international and the vehicle they enter is the spiritual New Testament Church - where race means nothing.

There has only ever been one people of God. We have been grafted into faithful Israel. You are trying to make 2 out of 1, when Scriptures clearly make 1 out of 2. I prefer Scripture to your theories.

Romans 2:25 tells us: “if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.”

Romans 2:28-29 plainly states, “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh.”

Paul explains in Romans 9:8: “they which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”

Romans 10:12 states: “For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.”

I Corinthians 7:17 declares, “Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing"

Colossians 3:11 declares, “there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all."

Galatians 3:28 says, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”

Galatians 5:2 declares, “if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing."

Galatians 5:5 declares, "For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love."

Galatians 6:15 reinforces that, saying, “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.”

Race means nothing any more – forever, it is all of grace. Being natural means nothing when it comes to salvation. That is a myth that conflicts with New Testament teaching.

The fact is, there is (and only has been) one people of God from the beginning. Whilst they were largely found within the nation of Israel before the cross, that was broadened out after the cross to embrace all nations. Race means nothing under the new covenant. The New Testament outlines clearly and repeatedly that "there is no difference between Jews and Gentiles.

 

[Randy Kluth]

Hello! Breaking news: we have entered the new covenant. The old is gone forever. Race means nothing today. It is all about grace. The Gospel is open equally to Jews and Gentiles alike. There is no racial favoritism any more. Thank God!

The lack of favoritism is demonstrated in giving equal gifts to diverse nationalities. l don't think it's "breaking news" to you to realize that about 200 nations on earth each have access to the Christian Gospel?

The NT Scriptures progress beyond the OT Law and its past limitations. Nobody is under OT Law today, with the advent of Christ's NT system.

However, this does not negate God's promises made during the OT era! If so, then the promise of Christ's Coming itself has been abrogated as unworthy of NT consideration, which is patently absurd!

And the thought God made promises under the OT era that cannot apply to the eschaton is equally absurd. God's word, given in whatever era, is eternally valid. What God promised in the OT era concerning the salvation of "many nations" remains a valid promise today, and is confirmed in the NT Scriptures as the International Gospel. This does not demonstrate "favoritism," but rather, proves the impartiality of God as demonstrated in international diversity.

 

[WPM]

The lack of favoritism is demonstrated in giving equal gifts to diverse nationalities. l don't think it's "breaking news" to you to realize that about 200 nations on earth each have access to the Christian Gospel?

The NT Scriptures progress beyond the OT Law and its past limitations. Nobody is under OT Law today, with the advent of Christ's NT system.

However, this does not negate God's promises made during the OT era! If so, then the promise of Christ's Coming itself has been abrogated as unworthy of NT consideration, which is patently absurd!

And the thought God made promises under the OT era that cannot apply to the eschaton is equally absurd. God's word, given in whatever era, is eternally valid. What God promised in the OT era concerning the salvation of "many nations" remains a valid promise today, and is confirmed in the NT Scriptures as the International Gospel. This does not demonstrate "favoritism," but rather, proves the impartiality of God as demonstrated in international diversity.

The Scriptures above negate your thesis.

 

[covenantee]

In my understanding of Scriptures, God chose an Ethnicity to begin with, in choosing Israel.

God chose the faithful and obedient of diverse ethnicities to comprise Israel. Genesis 17:12; Exodus 12:48-49; Leviticus 19:34; Leviticus 24:22

God was not and is not a racist.