You don't think GOD would know?
He gave them the Death sentence- and there is NOTHING in the scriptures to indicate anything else.
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You don't think GOD would know?
He gave them the Death sentence- and there is NOTHING in the scriptures to indicate anything else.
Well yes, He gave the death sentence. I already said I agree with that. But He also redeemed them. Which in turn gave them eternal life.
Again, I ask, do you not believe they were saved by faith?
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No- nothing in the Bible indicates they were saved/forgiven.
God passed sentence on them- and I trust HIS judgment over yours, Stranger.
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...also, my bible says..."with the same measure that YOU mete, it will be measure to you.."
So, just be careful how you judge...God is going to test your heart with His...He looks for fruit..if He see's no grace or mercy in you..guess how He will measure YOU?
Take care how you judge others...
So, just be careful how you judge...God is going to test your heart with His...He looks for fruit..if He see's no grace or mercy in you..guess how He will measure YOU?
Take care how you judge others...
The first Gospel: (Gen. 3:15) "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
Adams faith toward that Gospel: (Gen. 3:20) "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Eves faith: (Gen. 4:1) " And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
And God clothed both Adam and Eve with coats made from animals with the shedding of blood. (Gen. 3:21)
They believed and they were covered by the blood. Saved. Now in heaven.
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TOTALLY ...Adam was the 'type and shadow' of the last Adam...of course they were believers. Which man ever, except Jesus, has been perfect. lol
COMPLETELY unsupported by scripture.
Are those 'burning in Hellfire' "covered by the blood"?
I just gave you Scripture.
No, those who are in hell are not covered by the blood.
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Goodness , try listening to YOURSELF...you were not there in Eden..you CANNOT say it didn't happen that way. Anymore than we can say that it did.
That said...as Eden is a pre-shadowing of God's plan to yet be unfolded...the weight is leaning more heavily to the first 'picture' of the covering of blood for sin.
But YES I can.
Because it was GOD who sentenced them.
Because of Adam's rebellion, another 'Adam' was needed to pay the ransom.
Read my post #67. I gave four Scripture references with brief explanation.
You simply say no. Explain how the Scriptures I gave you do not prove Adam and Eve exercised a saving faith and are redeemed by God.
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No it doesn't, if listening to God made everyones HEARING perfect , we wouldn't have thousands of denominations, obviously.
There is obviously no problem with God's voice speaking to His children...it is all in the EARS of the hearers. You hear no clearer than anyone else.
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1 Timothy 2:12-15 KJV
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
[13] For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
[14] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
[15] Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
It says Adam was not deceived and the woman being deceived was in the transgression. I know: other verses do say Adam transgressed (romans 5 comes to mind).
Verse 15 says she shall be saved in childbearing if certain conditions are met.
I had to include verse 12 because its pertinent. Is the "she" in verse 15 talking about Eve herself or women in general?
Doesn't matter. If its talking about women in general it includes Eve.
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
[13] For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
[14] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
[15] Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
It says Adam was not deceived and the woman being deceived was in the transgression. I know: other verses do say Adam transgressed (romans 5 comes to mind).
Verse 15 says she shall be saved in childbearing if certain conditions are met.
I had to include verse 12 because its pertinent. Is the "she" in verse 15 talking about Eve herself or women in general?
Doesn't matter. If its talking about women in general it includes Eve.
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