The only thing that will stop Hamas from attacking Israel is for Israel to destroy Hamas. The world is trying to stop Israel from doing this.
The World v. Israel
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Israel will win, but it's gonna be NASTY! Lots of Israel wannabees will be sent to Hell fire.
Do you honestly think that this will end the problems. The genocide that is taking place will only incite further generations to take revenge on Israel.
I am staggered at how many Christians believe that all the killing right now is justified.
Please don’t get me wrong Hamas is not justified either.
If Israel just went after Hamas then I would have a slightly different attitude towards what is happening, but ordinary people / children are just being discarded as collateral damage - and that is what the ordinary person on the street is reacting to.
Many Jewish people do not agree with what is happening because of the collateral damage.
I am staggered at how many Christians believe that all the killing right now is justified.
Please don’t get me wrong Hamas is not justified either.
If Israel just went after Hamas then I would have a slightly different attitude towards what is happening, but ordinary people / children are just being discarded as collateral damage - and that is what the ordinary person on the street is reacting to.
Many Jewish people do not agree with what is happening because of the collateral damage.
Israel will win.
Zechariah 14:1-12
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, ...
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; ...
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. ...
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
No more Israel wannabees!
Zechariah 14:1-12
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, ...
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; ...
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. ...
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
No more Israel wannabees!
why did Gods people go into exile Jack?
They went because they were not listening to the Lord, they went because they were under the false notion that they could do no wrong , that they were no longer accountable.
The nations did rise up and go after Jerusalem, but it was because God allowed it to happen because His people were not listening. We also know that in time they returned.
It’s the Lord that wins in the end.
Its doesn’t mean that Israel can just do what it wants or that people around the world should just accept what they are doing as right.
They went because they were not listening to the Lord, they went because they were under the false notion that they could do no wrong , that they were no longer accountable.
The nations did rise up and go after Jerusalem, but it was because God allowed it to happen because His people were not listening. We also know that in time they returned.
It’s the Lord that wins in the end.
Its doesn’t mean that Israel can just do what it wants or that people around the world should just accept what they are doing as right.
Because of unbelief.
Scripture please.
That's future Rita.
For sure, and He will destroy Israel's enemies.
Jesus is the God of Israel. That's why Jesus will return to Israel and FIGHT for Israel.
Hi Jack,
Read Amos, and Hosea and parts of Isaiah
Yes of course I know it has a duel meaning, but that doesn’t mean that we cannot look back and see how God dealt with his people. Or how their choices didn’t reap consequences.
Unbelief can be defined in many ways, in this case it was that they thought Amos was a conspiracist and the priests didn’t take his words seriously. They were still worshipping but they were also acting as the world acts and taken on board other idols.
So, do you agree with how Isreal are attacking ordinary people , women and children ect in Palestine?
Read Amos, and Hosea and parts of Isaiah
Yes of course I know it has a duel meaning, but that doesn’t mean that we cannot look back and see how God dealt with his people. Or how their choices didn’t reap consequences.
Unbelief can be defined in many ways, in this case it was that they thought Amos was a conspiracist and the priests didn’t take his words seriously. They were still worshipping but they were also acting as the world acts and taken on board other idols.
So, do you agree with how Isreal are attacking ordinary people , women and children ect in Palestine?
Israel clearly has to do something. I think they need to be more precise in their campaigns. I watched one video of Israel destroying a suspected Hamas stronghold building and it did massive damage to all the surrounding buildings. I'm sure there was a lot of collateral damage in that missile strike. So I agree somewhat.
Israel said it is after the final Hamas stronghold so perhaps the war will be over soon.
I've read it all.
Have you looked on the map? TINY Israel is defending itself against Hamas and DemocRAT cowards. And it's gonna get MUCH worse. Israel's enemies will burn in Hell. They will lose. Israel will win. Jesus will return to Israel and fight for Israel.
That was not answering my question - I asked if you agreed with the killing of all the men women and children who are not in Hamas ?
Here you go again spurting out your judgmental hatred of people and presuming judgment over them. Shame as it spoils so many discussions.
I agree that when Hamas original attacked this time round that Israel had to do something , but that doesn’t justify everything that followed. I do not see Israel as being completely innocent over the years , and they are not always the victims , which is often as not what they use to justify many things.
I hope it will end soon, but sadly this war is only going to perpetuate things as Palestinian's will also want to avenge the loses they have faced.
I don't hate anyone. Sounds like you do. Yes, the Bible does spoil many discussions for unbelievers.
You’re the one that continuously mentions hate and people burning in hell. No, I don’t express any hate, just a dislike for certain actions.
You still haven’t answered my question, asked you twice now.
You don't believe in Hell fire? It's a NT doctrine that our Savior Jesus clearly taught. How about the Genesis Flood when God drowned all on Earth but 8, "making them an example"?
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Lev 26 answers why..
27 ‘And after all this, if you do not obey Me, but walk contrary to Me,
28 then I also will walk contrary to you in fury;
and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29 You shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters.
30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars, and cast your carcasses on the lifeless forms of your idols;
and My soul shall abhor you.
31 I will lay your cities waste and bring your sanctuaries to desolation, and I will not smell the fragrance of your [h]sweet aromas.
32 I will bring the land to desolation, and your enemies who dwell in it shall be astonished at it.
33 I will scatter you among the nations and draw out a sword after you;
your land shall be desolate and your cities waste.
I happen to be a strong supporter of Israel. I contribute generously (by my standards anyway) to the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. That being said, Israel is one of the most atheistic nations on earth as well as one of the most pro-abortion, pro-LGBTQ nations on earth. It is a little difficult to equate the nation of Israel with the biblical Israel. The Israel-Hamas conflict, while it may have religious elements, is really just another unfortunate instance of humans thinking that killing other humans is a solution to anything. I understand Israel's position - as I said to my wife, you can't eliminate a cockroach infestation by killing only those you see - but there are nuances that most zealots overlook. It is too simplistic to view it as "God's people versus Evil."
I support Israel and so does God. You ain't seen nothing yet.
Zechariah 14:12
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
I don't hate nor judge anyone. You need to apologize.
You are continuously condemning people to hell in many of your posts, that is making judgments over people. It comes across as hate, but for that part I will apologise because it may just be the way you word things. So for the latter I will say I am sorry because I am sitting in judgment of your heart , just as you did with me yesterday when you presumed I was responding with anger.
I already have the answer to my question, you answered it yesterday in a very indirect way.
God doesn’t support Israel in every decision it makes, scripture shows that, just as God wouldn’t support every decision we make as Christians.
Still it doesn’t matter I don’t intend to argue with you for the sake of arguing. You have your opinion on the matter, I have mine.
Rita
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