There are no Catholics in Heaven.

[BreadOfLife]

I never said otherwise

try to learn how to understand

Then answer post #137.

 

[BreadOfLife]

No Mary did not give birth to God

if she did, Jesus was created

So, Jesus is NOT God?
Was He born in TWO separate parts?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It's very simple.
Mary is the mother of Jesus
Jesus is God
Therefore Mary is the mother of God.

Nope

Mary did not give birth to Jehovah, Jesus, like melchizedech, no father no mother no begining or end,

you have Jesus created, that’s pagan,

 

[Eternally Grateful]

This statement is absolutely false.
Why do you guys persist in making these asinine statements without doing your homework??

Paragraphs 846 and 847 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church prove your statement wrong . . .

Oh so you did it give us the bible or the traditions by which we can be saved?

make up your mind dude

 

[BreadOfLife]

No Mary did not give birth to God

if she did, Jesus was created

Was the Holy Spirit LYING when He inspired Elizabeth to shout:
Luke 1:43
"Who am I that the MOTHER OF MY LORD should visit me?"

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The Authority of the Church is GOD-given (Matt. 16:18-19, 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23).

For crying out loud - READ your Bible . . .

Thanks, you just proved my point

 

[BarneyFife]

The Authority of the Church is GOD-given (Matt. 16:18-19, 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23).

For crying out loud - READ your Bible . . .

Never heard of it.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Oh so you did it give us the bible or the traditions by which we can be saved?

make up your mind dude

YOU made a false statement about what the Catholic Church teaches.
I simply corrected you by giving you the source of the Catholic teaching that refutes your asinine remark.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Actually you didn't!
You whole post was:
"um no. Water baptism is not the way to salvation spirit baptism is that’s why it is not mentioned in any of the other gospels namely John"
Just opinion.

thanks for proving I did, why can’t you refute me?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Thanks, you just proved my point

What was your point??

 

[BarneyFife]

Paragraphs 846 and 847 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church prove your statement wrong . . .

All it can prove is a claim. Not truth.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

CHRIST saves.
Baptism is simply the means BY which we are saved and born-again (John 3:5, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, 1 Pet. 3:21).

If you have a problem with that - tell God - not me.
He's the one who wrote it . . .

Baptism f the spirit, not by some priest

John 3 is not water baptism
Mark 16 just says baptized, not by who
Acts 2 says those saved get baptized
1 pet 3 says baptism does not remove filth of the flesh (sin)

next.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Never heard of it.

Thanks for another "non-answer" . . .

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Believing is a work.

It’s the work of god we believe in him (John 6)

 

[BreadOfLife]

All it can prove is a claim. Not truth.

It proves what YOU said was wrong.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Define "True" faith.

True faith is an assurance in the one you trust,

you do not even believe God can save you without you working, that’s not faith

pits not mere belief, even demons believe

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Did or did she NOT give birth to God?

No, Jesus was alive before Mary was even born

 

[BreadOfLife]

It’s the work of god we believe in him (John 6)

So, that logic would conclude that it is ALSO the work of God that most people DON'T believe in Him.

Do YOU believe as Calvin taught that God created MOST people just so He could toss them into Hell?

 

[BarneyFife]

Believing is a work.

Baloney. John 3:16. Ephesians 2:8.

 

[BreadOfLife]

True faith is an assurance in the one you trust,

you do not even believe God can save you without you working, that’s not faith

pits not mere belief, even demons believe

The one you trust to do "what"??

Suppose I had NEVER heard of Christ OR the Bible.
How would you explain "True Faith" to me?