There are no Catholics in Heaven.

[BarneyFife]

Did or did she NOT give birth to God?

DID HE OR DID HE NOT EXIST BEFORE SHE?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Then answer post #137.

I did, multiple times

true faith is never alone

If it is of grace it is not of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace

we are saved by grace through faith not works (Eph2)

we are saved by gods mercy, not by good deeds (titus 3)

 

[BreadOfLife]

No, Jesus was alive before Mary was even born

So, we're back to the original question:
Do you believe that Jesus is God?

Do you believe what Elizabeth said in Luke 1:43?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So, Jesus is NOT God?
Was He born in TWO separate parts?

Nice try

Mary did not create God, Unless she is God herself. she birthed his flesh

mother Of god is a pagan term, face it,

 

[BreadOfLife]

DID HE OR DID HE NOT EXIST BEFORE SHE?

Absolutely.

But, when He was incarnated, he was born of a woman - Mary.
It wasn't just "flesh" that came out of her - but GOD Himself.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Was the Holy Spirit LYING when He inspired Elizabeth to shout:
Luke 1:43
"Who am I that the MOTHER OF MY LORD should visit me?"

Lord

not God

nice try

 

[BreadOfLife]

Nice try

Mary did not create God, Unless she is God herself. she birthed his flesh

mother Of god is a pagan term, face it,

So, you actually believe that Mary just gave birth to a piece of flesh who wasn't God??

 

[Eternally Grateful]

YOU made a false statement about what the Catholic Church teaches.
I simply corrected you by giving you the source of the Catholic teaching that refutes your asinine remark.

Lol, sorry I am not buying it, I been listening to you all to much.

I mean you think mary created God,,lol

 

[BreadOfLife]

Lord

not God

nice try

So, you DON'T believe that Elizabeth meant "God" when she said, "My LORD"??

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What was your point??

That the authority given to your church you is how all are saved
Come on man, your not fooling anyone

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So, you DON'T believe that Elizabeth meant "God" when she said, "My LORD"??

Nope. God is not created, no jew would have thought that

 

[BreadOfLife]

Lol, sorry I am not buying it, I been listening to you all to much.

I mean you think mary created God,,lol

NEVER said she "created" God - ANY MORE than YOUR mother created YOU.
I said she gave BIRTH to God.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So, you actually believe that Mary just gave birth to a piece of flesh who wasn't God??

Mary gave birth to flesh, God entered that flesh

 

[Eternally Grateful]

NEVER said she "created" God - ANY MORE than YOUR mother created YOU.
I said she gave BIRTH to God.

Then she created God

my mother and father created me

 

[BarneyFife]

YOU made a false statement about what the Catholic Church teaches.
I simply corrected you by giving you the source of the Catholic teaching that refutes your asinine remark.

So does transubstantiation have any power to save?

 

[BreadOfLife]

That the authority given to your church you is how all are saved
Come on man, your not fooling anyone

We are saved BY Christ - but we are saved THROUGH His Church (Matt. 28:19).

His Church is the FULLNESS of Him (Eph. 1:22-23).
It is the pillar and foundation of Truth (1 Tim. 3:15).
It is Christ Himself (Acts 9:4-5).

 

[BreadOfLife]

Then she created God

my mother and father created me

GOD created you.
He used your mother and father as the MEANS to create you.

 

[BarneyFife]

Mary gave birth to flesh, God entered that flesh

Careful, there. Christ was God from conception. We're treading upon holy ground.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

We are saved BY Christ - but we are saved THROUGH His Church (Matt. 28:19).

His Church is the FULLNESS of Him (Eph. 1:22-23).
It is the pillar and foundation of Truth (1 Tim. 3:15).
It is Christ Himself (Acts 9:4-5).

Thanks

once again, you proved what I said

all people are saved through your church one way or another

 

[BarneyFife]

We are saved BY Christ - but we are saved THROUGH His Church (Matt. 28:19).

His Church is the FULLNESS of Him (Eph. 1:22-23).
It is the pillar and foundation of Truth (1 Tim. 3:15).
It is Christ Himself (Acts 9:4-5).

So we are saved by the actions of the church, then. Got it. By; through; Give me a break.