This GENERATION will not pass away until all these things take place

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Jesus wanted every generation to be ready for his second coming.

Jesus spoke of future happenings in Matthew 24:

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
These are signs from heaven.

33 So also, when you see all these things,
"you" refers to the future people who will see all those future signs.

you know that he is near, at the very gates. 34 Truly, I say to you,
Jesus wasn't kidding. He spoke to the future people ("you") using the words from this passage.

this generation will not pass away
Jesus saw this generation in his mind and directly addressed them. When the time comes, this future generation will read this passage as Jesus' words speak to them.

until all these things take place.
All those signs will occur within a single generation.

35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.
The words of Jesus will come through space-time. Jesus wanted every generation to be ready for his second coming.

The above is my current interpretation of the passage. As usual, of course, I could be wrong :)
 
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Just good to be ready for death in general. Yes, the Generation pertained to them then who seen the signs, which was foretold also in the old testament which would lead to the material downfall of Jerusalem. With a new administration set up by the bride of Christ, which is the Heavenly Jerusalem, being instated, and believers being adopted by and through faith. I see no reason to expect to see Jesus coming through the clouds, or that destruction is going to insue which people say today is the last days. The last day, is the day of death, when we leave here.
 

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Jesus wanted every generation to be ready for his second coming.

Jesus spoke of future happenings in Matthew 24:


These are signs from heaven.


"you" refers to the future people who will see all those future signs.


Jesus wasn't kidding. He spoke to the future people ("you") using the words from this passage.


Jesus saw this generation in his mind and directly addressed them. When the time comes, this future generation will read this passage as Jesus' words speak to them.


All those signs will occur within a single generation.


The words of Jesus will come through space-time. Jesus wanted every generation to be ready for his second coming.

The above is my current interpretation of the passage. As usual, of course, I could be wrong :)
Sounds about right.
 
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Jesus wanted every generation to be ready for his second coming.

Jesus spoke of future happenings in Matthew 24:


These are signs from heaven.


"you" refers to the future people who will see all those future signs.


Jesus wasn't kidding. He spoke to the future people ("you") using the words from this passage.


Jesus saw this generation in his mind and directly addressed them. When the time comes, this future generation will read this passage as Jesus' words speak to them.


All those signs will occur within a single generation.


The words of Jesus will come through space-time. Jesus wanted every generation to be ready for his second coming.

The above is my current interpretation of the passage. As usual, of course, I could be wrong :)
2 Peter 1:20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
 

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Israel recovered Jerusalem in 1967. Some living in 1967 will witness Jesus return. The signs are everywhere!
 

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Israel recovered Jerusalem in 1967. Some living in 1967 will witness Jesus return. The signs are everywhere!

Yes, some may witness a fleeting visitation of Jesus, (Luke 14:31-32), but it will not be the "Second Coming" when he will judge the peoples of the earth.

Shalom
 

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Yes, some may witness a fleeting visitation of Jesus, (Luke 14:31-32), but it will not be the "Second Coming" when he will judge the peoples of the earth.

Shalom
"Fleeting visitation"? lol
 

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Jesus wanted every generation to be ready for his second coming.

Jesus spoke of future happenings in Matthew 24:
In Matthew ch 24, Jesus responds to a question from his disciples….after stating that the Temple would be completely destroyed….”not a stone left upon a stone”…

”While he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?
Some translations use the phrase “sign of your coming and the end of the world” but this was not what Jesus’ disciples asked…they asked about the sign indicating his “parousia” which means “presence”, not “coming”. And it wasn’t “the end of the world” but “the end of the age” or period of time that Jesus was speaking about. His return was to be identified by a series of significant global events that would signify his return…….but if Jesus’ “coming“ was a visible event, (“every eye will see him”) then a sign indicating that he was “present” would not be needed. So what did Jesus mean?

Could it be that Jesus has already returned and has been present for quite some time? Have we already seen these events that he spoke about?……because if we did not discern the signs then we may be overtaken by the “end of the age”….not expecting it, but believing it to be at some time in the future. As Jesus said…..
“Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

43 “But know one thing: If the householder had known in what watch*the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 On this account, you too prove yourselves ready, because the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it.”


Daniel’s prophesies help us to know when Christ was to return to set up his kingdom.
After a fearsome dream about a huge image that was struck down, a troubled King wanted to know what it meant…..Daniel was the one who sought God’s help in interpreting the dream because it was divinely inspired. He told the King that the head of gold represented the Babylonian world power, who was ruling in Daniel’s day. The Israelites were exiled captives in Babylon at the time, due to God’s punishment of them, and Babylon had dominion over God’s people and their land for 70 years….long enough for the older disobedient ones to pass away.

The king dreamed of a fearsome image made out of metals in descending order of inferiority, (gold, silver, copper, iron and in its feet a mixture of iron and clay.) The image was toppled by a stone cut out of a mountain, striking the image on its feet. The stone was not man made.

Daniel told the King….
“….you yourself are the head of gold. (Babylon)

39 “But after you another kingdom will rise, inferior to you;
(Medo-Persia) then another kingdom, a third one, of copper, (Greece) that will rule over the whole earth.

40 “As for the fourth kingdom, it will be strong like iron.
(Rome) For just as iron crushes and pulverizes everything else, yes, like iron that shatters, it will crush and shatter all of these.

41 “And just as you saw the feet and the toes to be partly of clay of a potter and partly of iron, the kingdom will be divided, but some of the hardness of iron will be in it, just as you saw the iron mixed with soft clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom will be partly strong and partly fragile. 43 Just as you saw iron mixed with soft clay, they will be mixed with the people; but they will not stick together, one to the other, just as iron does not mix with clay. (This describes the British Empire who rose to power after the collapse of the Roman Empire…..these later allied themselves with their estranged children, the USA in this “time of the end”. These operate under a democratic system of government that undermines the power of the government to rule with ansolute authority)….IOW they don’t mix.)
Daniel continued……

44 In the days of those kings (in our day) the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever, 45 just as you saw that out of the mountain a stone was cut not by hands, and that it crushed the iron, the copper, the clay, the silver, and the gold. The Grand God has made known to the king what will happen in the future. The dream is true, and its interpretation is trustworthy.”

We are living in that future time right now. The events Jesus described began in 1914 with the outbreak of the First World War in man’s history. It was followed by the Spanish Flu epidemic which took more lives than the war did. Food shortages followed as the whole world was engaged in conflict. It was “nation against nation and kingdom against kingdom” just as Jesus said. From that time onward the world has not known peace and the signs, including great earthquakes, will keep occurring until God finishes this whole mess with the introduction of his Kingdom.

The signs indicating Christ’s “presence” occurred right on time, when the prophesies in Daniel were due to be fulfilled. Those gentile governments, represented by that image, would ‘trample’ on the right of God’s Kingdom to direct human affairs and would themselves hold sway under Satan’s control. (1 John 5:19)
But only by God’s permission.

These are signs from heaven.


"you" refers to the future people who will see all those future signs.


Jesus wasn't kidding. He spoke to the future people ("you") using the words from this passage.


Jesus saw this generation in his mind and directly addressed them. When the time comes, this future generation will read this passage as Jesus' words speak to them.
The time is well along and those who saw the beginning of these distressing events who are chosen as God’s elect, would not pass away untill all the signs were fulfilled. There are a remnant left on the earth right now….soon to be gathered, as the storm clouds of Armageddon keep building.
All those signs will occur within a single generation.
Or the “generation“ of those who will rule with Christ in heaven, would not pass away until all of those foretold events had taken place. Right now we are staring down the barrel of the greatest tribulation in mankind’s history. Unless the days were cut short, Jesus said, “no flesh would be saved”.

Are we ready?
The words of Jesus will come through space-time. Jesus wanted every generation to be ready for his second coming.
It was always spoken of as an immanent event…yet here we are almost 2000 years later seeing the fulfillment of Jesus’ words. Those who were asleep in their graves were not conscious of the passage of time, so for them time stood still. They were awakened in the resurrection as if they closed their eyes only a moment ago. As the time closes in on us, we know that God’s kingdom is going to replace all corrupt human governments with the rulership we should have had all a long.
The “coming” of Christ as judge of all the earth is fast approaching…..it is almost time for him to pass judgment on “the sheep and the goats”….he has been closely observing mankind now for over 100 years, so the separation is almost over.
The above is my current interpretation of the passage. As usual, of course, I could be wrong :)
The above is my understanding of the events as outlined in the Bible.
 

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Jesus wanted every generation to be ready for his second coming.

Jesus spoke of future happenings in Matthew 24:


These are signs from heaven.


"you" refers to the future people who will see all those future signs.


Jesus wasn't kidding. He spoke to the future people ("you") using the words from this passage.


Jesus saw this generation in his mind and directly addressed them. When the time comes, this future generation will read this passage as Jesus' words speak to them.


All those signs will occur within a single generation.


The words of Jesus will come through space-time. Jesus wanted every generation to be ready for his second coming.

The above is my current interpretation of the passage. As usual, of course, I could be wrong :)
A great many people get Matt 24 wrong, incorrectly assuming that the tribulation spoken of there is that of the end times and coming of Christ as opposed to it being the fall of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., and therefore have a problem distinguishing who the comments were made to when considering the question asked by Jesus' disciples in Matt 24:3.

When reading Matt 24, it's imperative to read the parallel accounts in conjunction with it, those recorded in Mark 13 and the disciples question recorded there, in verse 4, and also Luke 21, and the disciples question as recorded there in verse 7. The disciples question in Matthew 24 is different than in the aforementioned Mark and Luke accounts with the latter 2 not mentioning the end of the world or age.

There are 2 distinct questions asked by the deciples in Matthew 24:3: one pertains to the destruction of the temple (70AD) and the other is the end of the world/age. Jesus comments addressed both events.

Also, in the same account of the temple destruction as recorded in parallel verses of Luke and Mark, the texts say nothing about the end of the age as part of the question to Jesus yet he responds similarly providing comments about it.

And it would be prudent to read about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD as recorded by Josephus. That event truly was unimaginable and a great tribulation and clearly parallels the comments of Matt 24 regarding the great tribulation.
 

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A great many people get Matt 24 wrong, incorrectly assuming that the tribulation spoken of there is that of the end times and coming of Christ as opposed to it being the fall of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.,
Read the title of this OP. Which generation did Jesus mean?
 

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Read the title of this OP. Which generation did Jesus mean?
The very LAST generation that witnessed Israel take back Jerusalem in 1967 in a miraculous 6 day war. Some living in 1967 will witness Jesus return.
 

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The very LAST generation that witnessed Israel take back Jerusalem in 1967 in a miraculous 6 day war. Some living in 1967 will witness Jesus return.
Let proposition P1 = Some people alive in 1967 will witness Jesus' Second Coming.
Proposition P2 = No one alive in 1967 will witness Jesus' Second Coming.

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions? The stronger your belief in a proposition, the higher the weight.
 

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Let proposition P1 = Some people alive in 1967 will witness Jesus' Second Coming.
Absolutely!
Proposition P2 = No one alive in 1967 will witness Jesus' Second Coming.
Nope.
Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions? The stronger your belief in a proposition, the higher the weight.
Never heard of the 1967 war when God fought for Israel and Israel recovered Jerusalem? It's called Jerusalem Day. Check Wiki.
 

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Never heard of the 1967 war when God fought for Israel and Israel recovered Jerusalem? It's called Jerusalem Day. Check Wiki.
This is the 2nd time I am asking you:

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions?
 

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This is the 2nd time I am asking you:

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions?
Your question is silly. Israel, world gov, mark of the beast, LGBTQ, will 10 satisfy?
 

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Your question is silly. Israel, world gov, mark of the beast, LGBTQ, will 10 satisfy?
This is the 3rd and the last time I am asking you:

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions?

Please stay focused on the question and answer it accordingly if you are able.
 

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Jesus wanted every generation to be ready for his second coming.

Jesus spoke of future happenings in Matthew 24:


These are signs from heaven.


"you" refers to the future people who will see all those future signs.


Jesus wasn't kidding. He spoke to the future people ("you") using the words from this passage.


Jesus saw this generation in his mind and directly addressed them. When the time comes, this future generation will read this passage as Jesus' words speak to them.


All those signs will occur within a single generation.


The words of Jesus will come through space-time. Jesus wanted every generation to be ready for his second coming.

The above is my current interpretation of the passage. As usual, of course, I could be wrong :)
The term "generation" has two aspects: people and time. And so we should consider whether Jesus' prediction has focused on people, time or both.

Matthew 24:32-35
“Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass awayAll predicted events will occur within a single generation..
The parable incorporates words like "when" and "summer is near", indicating the passage of time. And yet, Jesus' conclusion speaks of the loss of spaces such as heaven and earth.

This generation shall not pass away

Interpretive option A.

All predicted events will occur within a single generation. (emphasis on time)

Interpretive option B.

All predicted events will occur before the people (the genea) are destroyed. (emphasis on the Jewish people.)
 
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The term "generation" has two aspects: people and time. And so we should consider whether Jesus' prediction has focused on people, time or both.

Matthew 24:32-35
“Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass awayAll predicted events will occur within a single generation..
The parable incorporates words like "when" and "summer is near", indicating the passage of time. And yet, Jesus' conclusion speaks of the loss of spaces such as heaven and earth.

This generation shall not pass away

Interpretive option A.

All predicted events will occur within a single generation. (emphasis on time)

Interpretive option B.

All predicted events will occur before the people (the genea) are destroyed. (emphasis on the Jewish people.)
The idea that Jesus is talking to a single generation - but not the one in front of Him that he's clearly addressing - is nonsense. Basic grammar excludes it.

Your argument is far better than the others that preceded it. This is grammatically plausible.
 

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This is the 3rd and the last time I am asking you:

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions?

Please stay focused on the question and answer it accordingly if you are able.
I answered quite clearly. This is the terminal generation.