Two Spirits At War In America?

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Ac28

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Isnt it odd that more are declared Chriatians, than the number who believe there is a God? How can one be a Christian and not believe in God?

Sounds like a screwed up poll...
I'm sure it is screwed up. I posted it, not because I thought it was accurate, but to show the huge difference between liberals and conservatives. If the poll were accurate, this difference would likely still be evident. This difference or gap, to me, is the meaningful part. Just more evidence that I never want to see another Obama or Clinton in there.
 

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According to Pew Research

Conservatives:-- 85% are Christians, 3% are other faiths, 78% believe absolutely there is a God, 3% believe there is no God
Liberals: ---------52% are Christians, 10% are other faiths, 45% believe absolutely there is a God, 19% believe there is no God

73% of Republicans are white and Christian
29% of Democrats are white and Christian
I wonder if their definition of a Christian would be equal to God's definition of a follower of Christ?
 

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He was a priest for 12 yrs.
I asked him if Priests were required to read the Bible cover once a year. He told me he never read the Bible cover to cover.
That's when I decided to read the Bible cover to cover. And I did.

Was he articulate?
Yes and he swore a lot to.
 
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I knew a Priest Who said that he didn't believe in Jesus. go figure.
Provide the name of the priest, and his diocese so I can report him to his bishop.
If you can't or won't, then stop this slanderous bigotry.

Every priest reads the entire Bible, out loud, as part of the liturgy in a 1 year cycle and 3 year cycle, which means this alleged priest read the entire Bible 4 times in a 12 year period. Telling lies to bash the Church in the name of Jesus? I don't think He is impressed.
 
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I wish I wasn’t too old for the monastery
 

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Already a third order Benedictine
That explains everything. I am a third order Franciscan. I haven't said my office in years, but I like to say that so people will think I'm holy.
 
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aspen

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That explains everything. I am a third order Franciscan. I haven't said my office in years, but I like to say that so people will think I'm holy.

Well, now you know the truth - i just want a title

Why did you quit your office?
 
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It's OK to be slanted.
The right has an agenda, and the left has an agenda.
The difference is that the left is willing to do anything to get what they want.
They want to obliterate the right to get what they want.
And, yes, it can only be a spirit for the feeling to be this strong..
Kill babies, ruin families, destroy the institution of marriage, accept any kind of sexuality, anything goes, loss of civility.
And start in kindergarten --- this is the next generation.
I feel like it's already too late, but we shouldn't stop trying.
I agree with all that.

A Christian should not be far right or far left because that is a political madness, the extreme of such are just rat bags who want to in force over everyone with there own agendas and they work hard at playing any angle they can to try dominate who they can in every way they can, TV and media and schools are fully peddling their socialist influence everywhere.

In Australia we have 2 party system that rules and that's the right wing and the left wing, the Left has become openly Socialist from about 1990 and the leadership would deny that they were before then, but now they sprout it out loud and now our right wing party has become a Socialist party as well starting from about 2010 and now it's totally Socialist, the leader has kicked out one way or another all the Conservatives they can or such had to leave or shut up, but the Name of the party stays the same, so they can dupe the majority.
Them two party's are going down the path of making Australia to become part of China.
The only god both party's idolise is money and nothing other is of any regard apart from all there spin, it's like dead people controlling over everyone with just lies and gibberish 24/7

I am in a new Party called the Australian Conservative Party, it's just the same thing as the old right wing party once was and everyone who has come in is in shock about the change of their old right wing Party they have voted for all there lives.
We had a State election and the right could of one easy by far but they ran and gave it to there Left buddy's on a silver platter, shunning there once loyal voters.
Many of the Left have come to the Australian Conservative Party in shock as well.
But the media do not inform the public of what's going on, they have an agenda.
All this is about the New World Order and it's a Socialist Satanic whore.

Not everyone is a political person in a Healthy Democracy and nor do they want to be, but with Political Correctness that what you become a Socialist, you get owned ? by a political order wether you like it or not and what that means is you are just a stooge in the system of madness that truly rejects Christianity for mans works in doctrines just like it was in Hitler's Germany and the Communist hell holes. no one can speak out or you become an enemy of the State and if you have a real good understanding of the History of how such nations were in fact fooled to becoming like they did, you will see the cunning in the Political Correctness at play, yes it starts off all nice and all but it becomes a monster and all.
 

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I agree with all that.

A Christian should not be far right or far left because that is a political madness, the extreme of such are just rat bags who want to in force over everyone with there own agendas and they work hard at playing any angle they can to try dominate who they can in every way they can, TV and media and schools are fully peddling their socialist influence everywhere.

In Australia we have 2 party system that rules and that's the right wing and the left wing, the Left has become openly Socialist from about 1990 and the leadership would deny that they were before then, but now they sprout it out loud and now our right wing party has become a Socialist party as well starting from about 2010 and now it's totally Socialist, the leader has kicked out one way or another all the Conservatives they can or such had to leave or shut up, but the Name of the party stays the same, so they can dupe the majority.
Them two party's are going down the path of making Australia to become part of China.
The only god both party's idolise is money and nothing other is of any regard apart from all there spin, it's like dead people controlling over everyone with just lies and gibberish 24/7

I am in a new Party called the Australian Conservative Party, it's just the same thing as the old right wing party once was and everyone who has come in is in shock about the change of their old right wing Party they have voted for all there lives.
We had a State election and the right could of one easy by far but they ran and gave it to there Left buddy's on a silver platter, shunning there once loyal voters.
Many of the Left have come to the Australian Conservative Party in shock as well.
But the media do not inform the public of what's going on, they have an agenda.
All this is about the New World Order and it's a Socialist Satanic whore.

Not everyone is a political person in a Healthy Democracy and nor do they want to be, but with Political Correctness that what you become a Socialist, you get owned ? by a political order wether you like it or not and what that means is you are just a stooge in the system of madness that truly rejects Christianity for mans works in doctrines just like it was in Hitler's Germany and the Communist hell holes. no one can speak out or you become an enemy of the State and if you have a real good understanding of the History of how such nations were in fact fooled to becoming like they did, you will see the cunning in the Political Correctness at play, yes it starts off all nice and all but it becomes a monster and all.
It seems to be happening all over.
We need to be made poor and get to the level of China.
America has changed and is no longer America.
Europe has changed.
The young like the idea of socialism. They think they're going to get everything for free; schooling, including college, medical care, etc.
Nothing is free in this life; someone pays for everything we get.
Bernie Sanders had all the youth in his camp in the last campaign --- he made everything sound so good.

All this starts early in the child's life. We've gradually gone from this:


To this:


Isaiah 5:20
 
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Provide the name of the priest, and his diocese so I can report him to his bishop.
If you can't or won't, then stop this slanderous bigotry.

Every priest reads the entire Bible, out loud, as part of the liturgy in a 1 year cycle and 3 year cycle, which means this alleged priest read the entire Bible 4 times in a 12 year period. Telling lies to bash the Church in the name of Jesus? I don't think He is impressed.

I will TRY to be nice. First of all you don't know me. But you call me a liar. I was a Police officer for 26 yrs. a police officer can get fired for lying. so I have a lot of experience telling the truth. How about you? I grew up as a Catholic, was an alter boy. All most went to the Seminary to be come a Priest. Went to Church for 40 yrs. I left when the Homosexuals moved in. I went to a Lutheran church until the Homosexuals moved in there also.

You say that the Priests are required to teach the entire bible every year, that may be true I don't know. I will take your word on that. The vast amount of Sermons I heard in church were on the 4 Gospels. Never heard a Sermon on the Book of Rev. other then the Priest to say it was to hard to under stand.

What I posted about the Priest I knew is not slanderous because I didn't tell his name, could be any one.
The conversation took place around 40 yrs ago ( I have a very good memory ) and are the word he spoke. He has the right to believe what ever he wants. I am not his judge. I was just shocked to hear that coming from a Priest.

Of course I will not tell you his name. He may have changed his beliefs. I have not talked to him in those 40 Yrs. so I don't know.
I will say that he is in charge of one of the largest Churches in the metro area the last time I heard about him.

" Telling lies about the church in the name of Jesus? "
I didn't use the name of Jesus.....

" I don't think He is impressed "
As I remember Jesus spent a lot of his time fighting with the Church. Remember the money changers.????
 

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Already a third order Benedictine

Sorry, I am ignorant. What does that mean?
Only answer if you with to...it's really none of my business. :oops:
 

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Sorry, I am ignorant. What does that mean?
Only answer if you with to...it's really none of my business. :oops:

I pray with the monks of a local monastery - they pray 7 times a day, i only pray four times a day - the prayer is called the Liturgy of the Hours or the Divine Office. I also volunteer at the monastery and run a men’s group at my parish. Being an oblate (Benedictine term for third order) simply means committing yourself to serving others and prayer.