What does Our Savior consider Idolatry

[Truth]

I know that God considered worshiping an Idol, equal to Adultery Between the people and Him!
At Mount Sinai, the Israelite s had Aaron make a golden calf, which was something that they had learned in Egypt, the Bull & Cow gods. Then Aaron declared, tomorrow is a Feast to the Lord, God was so Angry that He wanted to French-Fry everyone. Let My Wrath Wax Hot against them!
Then God goes to the extent of telling them through Moses, Do Not!, Do Not learn by Inquiring how they, [the people in the land, Canaanites] serve and worship their gods. Do not learn what they do, do not learn their rituals, and Do the Same! And say you are using these same rituals as a Worship to ME , It is an Abomination, For everything they do, even burning their sons and daughters in the fires to their gods, I Hate!!

Acts 15:20
Douay Rheims Version- An English translation of the Latin Vulgate, Sept 1st 1899
20- But that we write unto them, that they refrain themselves from pollutions of Idols.
KJV
20- But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of Idols.
NKJV
20- But we write to them to abstain from things polluted by Idols.
I know that in 1st Corinthians, chapt 8:1 Paul exhorts about[ things offered to Idols] concerning foods or meats! Also in !0: 25-30 again! foods and or meats! I am not talking Kosher, although I keep Kosher! That is not my point!!! If someone offered me B B Q lamb it would be hard to turn down, offered to Idols or not, But for conscience sake I would!
My point! Is there anything besides food that can be polluted by Idols?

 

[Helen]

Good question....
Does an idol have to be anything other than some block in our heart where it is not 100% God sanctuary? I don't think that it has to be a 'thing'...it can even be thoughts, wants, desires .... anything that gets in the way of God's face in our life.

I'm sure it's not what you are talking about here...but it popped into me head.

 

[Job]

My point! Is there anything besides food that can be polluted by Idols?

Worship.

 

[Angelina]

Well said Job. Worship can indeed be polluted by Idols and so can a Church... and I'm not talking about physical statues here...

 

[Angelina]

Also our hearts can be polluted by idols....

 

[Job]

Well said Job. Worship can indeed be polluted by Idols and so can a Church... and I'm not talking about physical statues here...

That may be, but they are a part of the pollution that cause many to lose their footing along the path.

Just saying...

 

[Job]

My point! Is there anything besides food that can be polluted by Idols?

One's knowledge and understanding of the scriptures.

 

[bbyrd009]

I know that God considered worshiping an Idol, equal to Adultery Between the people and Him!

yes, "homosexuality" too i guess

At Mount Sinai, the Israelite s had Aaron make a golden calf, which was something that they had learned in Egypt, the Bull & Cow gods. Then Aaron declared, tomorrow is a Feast to the Lord, God was so Angry that He wanted to French-Fry everyone. Let My Wrath Wax Hot against them!

hmm

Then God goes to the extent of telling them through Moses, Do Not!, Do Not learn by Inquiring how they, [the people in the land, Canaanites] serve and worship their gods. Do not learn what they do, do not learn their rituals, and Do the Same! And say you are using these same rituals as a Worship to ME , It is an Abomination, For everything they do, even burning their sons and daughters in the fires to their gods, I Hate!!

Acts 15:20
Douay Rheims Version- An English translation of the Latin Vulgate, Sept 1st 1899
20- But that we write unto them, that they refrain themselves from pollutions of Idols.
KJV
20- But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of Idols.
NKJV
20- But we write to them to abstain from things polluted by Idols.
I know that in 1st Corinthians, chapt 8:1 Paul exhorts about[ things offered to Idols] concerning foods or meats! Also in !0: 25-30 again! foods and or meats! I am not talking Kosher, although I keep Kosher! That is not my point!!! If someone offered me B B Q lamb it would be hard to turn down, offered to Idols or not, But for conscience sake I would!

interesting that that passage does not say that refraining is necessary from conscience--as the idol is dead and meaningless, the literal food is not polluted iow--but so as to avoid the appearance of impropriety to someone who might not understand, and is looking on.

My point! Is there anything besides food that can be polluted by Idols?

 

[DPMartin]

I know that God considered worshiping an Idol, equal to Adultery Between the people and Him!
At Mount Sinai, the Israelite s had Aaron make a golden calf, which was something that they had learned in Egypt, the Bull & Cow gods. Then Aaron declared, tomorrow is a Feast to the Lord, God was so Angry that He wanted to French-Fry everyone. Let My Wrath Wax Hot against them!
Then God goes to the extent of telling them through Moses, Do Not!, Do Not learn by Inquiring how they, [the people in the land, Canaanites] serve and worship their gods. Do not learn what they do, do not learn their rituals, and Do the Same! And say you are using these same rituals as a Worship to ME , It is an Abomination, For everything they do, even burning their sons and daughters in the fires to their gods, I Hate!!

Acts 15:20
Douay Rheims Version- An English translation of the Latin Vulgate, Sept 1st 1899
20- But that we write unto them, that they refrain themselves from pollutions of Idols.
KJV
20- But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of Idols.
NKJV
20- But we write to them to abstain from things polluted by Idols.
I know that in 1st Corinthians, chapt 8:1 Paul exhorts about[ things offered to Idols] concerning foods or meats! Also in !0: 25-30 again! foods and or meats! I am not talking Kosher, although I keep Kosher! That is not my point!!! If someone offered me B B Q lamb it would be hard to turn down, offered to Idols or not, But for conscience sake I would!
My point! Is there anything besides food that can be polluted by Idols?

this would seem to say it plainly, especially in todays Christianity:


Eze 14:1 Then came certain of the elders of Israel unto me, and sat before me. 2 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 3 Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them? 4 Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the LORD will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols; 5 That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols. 6 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations. 7 For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the LORD will answer him by myself: 8 And I will set my face against that man, and will make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and ye shall know that I am the LORD. 9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel. 10 And they shall bear the punishment of their iniquity: the punishment of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him that seeketh unto him; 11 That the house of Israel may go no more astray from me, neither be polluted any more with all their transgressions; but that they may be my people, and I may be their God, saith the Lord GOD.

people calling themselves Christian keep themselves at a distance from God, via their idols in their hearts, deliberately. this is all the abominations because they are all estranged from the Lord through their idols.

 

[ScottA]

I know that God considered worshiping an Idol, equal to Adultery Between the people and Him!
At Mount Sinai, the Israelite s had Aaron make a golden calf, which was something that they had learned in Egypt, the Bull & Cow gods. Then Aaron declared, tomorrow is a Feast to the Lord, God was so Angry that He wanted to French-Fry everyone. Let My Wrath Wax Hot against them!
Then God goes to the extent of telling them through Moses, Do Not!, Do Not learn by Inquiring how they, [the people in the land, Canaanites] serve and worship their gods. Do not learn what they do, do not learn their rituals, and Do the Same! And say you are using these same rituals as a Worship to ME , It is an Abomination, For everything they do, even burning their sons and daughters in the fires to their gods, I Hate!!

Acts 15:20
Douay Rheims Version- An English translation of the Latin Vulgate, Sept 1st 1899
20- But that we write unto them, that they refrain themselves from pollutions of Idols.
KJV
20- But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of Idols.
NKJV
20- But we write to them to abstain from things polluted by Idols.
I know that in 1st Corinthians, chapt 8:1 Paul exhorts about[ things offered to Idols] concerning foods or meats! Also in !0: 25-30 again! foods and or meats! I am not talking Kosher, although I keep Kosher! That is not my point!!! If someone offered me B B Q lamb it would be hard to turn down, offered to Idols or not, But for conscience sake I would!
My point! Is there anything besides food that can be polluted by Idols?

Idolatry is an act of believing in the things of this world (which is under the rule of Satan). It is Satanic worship.

 

[Helen]

Idolatry is an act of believing in the things of this world (which is under the rule of Satan). It is Satanic worship.

I like that, a nice clear way of stating it. Amen.

Once when I was very sick and my mind conjured up many fears..
The Lord gave me a vision..and it was me standing between Him and the Devil..I turned from The Lord and kissed the Devil.
He showed me that was what was happening when we give in to fear...we turn from God and it is Satan worship!
Anything which takes our attention from God is idolatry.

 

[Truth]

Worship.

Good response, sorry I only have 1 day a week to respond.

 

[bbyrd009]

God was so Angry that He wanted to French-Fry everyone. Let My Wrath Wax Hot against them!

this is usually perceived as a test of Moses' heart i think

 

[Truth]

Idolatry is an act of believing in the things of this world (which is under the rule of Satan). It is Satanic worship.

Well Said! Please bare with me for a moment.
Sun-god worship began with Nimrod! he was killed and His wife claimed that he didn't actually die, but had ascended into heaven and is now the Sun god. After a while his wife becomes pregnant, but not as we would understand, No, she claims that Nimrod has impregnated her by the rays of the sun!??? and she gives birth to Tammuz, the reincarnated sun-god Nimrod ! Now you would think that as a god Tammuz would live forever, right? but not so, he was killed when he was 40 tears old by a wild boar in a hunting accident! So the worshipers of Tammuz would morn for him by denying some thing every day for 40 days for his pleasure in the afterlife and then at the end of the 40 days they would kill the boar that killed Tammuz, and eat ham!
Ezekiel 8:14
So he brought me to the door of the north gate of the Lords House; and to My dismay, women were sitting there weeping for Tammuz.
here we have a form of worship, being observed, an act of believing in the things of this world! Which many still observe today, Lent assimilate's this very form of worship, and leads up to Ishtar, or Easter, when almost every one has Ham for an Easter meal.!!!!!!!!!!!!
My question was, does Our Heavenly Father and Our Savior disregard the very thing that He hated in the past?

 

[Truth]

this is usually perceived as a test of Moses' heart i think

MMM-kood-be!

 

[ScottA]

Well Said! Please bare with me for a moment.
Sun-god worship began with Nimrod! he was killed and His wife claimed that he didn't actually die, but had ascended into heaven and is now the Sun god. After a while his wife becomes pregnant, but not as we would understand, No, she claims that Nimrod has impregnated her by the rays of the sun!??? and she gives birth to Tammuz, the reincarnated sun-god Nimrod ! Now you would think that as a god Tammuz would live forever, right? but not so, he was killed when he was 40 tears old by a wild boar in a hunting accident! So the worshipers of Tammuz would morn for him by denying some thing every day for 40 days for his pleasure in the afterlife and then at the end of the 40 days they would kill the boar that killed Tammuz, and eat ham!
Ezekiel 8:14
So he brought me to the door of the north gate of the Lords House; and to My dismay, women were sitting there weeping for Tammuz.
here we have a form of worship, being observed, an act of believing in the things of this world! Which many still observe today, Lent assimilate's this very form of worship, and leads up to Ishtar, or Easter, when almost every one has Ham for an Easter meal.!!!!!!!!!!!!
My question was, does Our Heavenly Father and Our Savior disregard the very thing that He hated in the past?

Yes and no. Yes, there are things that still are an offence. But no, not all things are an offence since Christ overcame the world. Much of what was once an offence, is now captured territory, the spoils. But it is important to make the distinction, that what we do, we do unto our Lord. Therefore, Easter as the celebration of Passover, and Christmas as the celebration of Christ's birth - even Halloween as the celebration of good over evil, is no offence toward God. All things are lawful for those who are in Christ Jesus.

 

[Truth]

Yes and no. Yes, there are things that still are an offence. But no, not all things are an offence since Christ overcame the world. Much of what was once an offence, is now captured territory, the spoils. But it is important to make the distinction, that what we do, we do unto our Lord. Therefore, Easter as the celebration of Passover, and Christmas as the celebration of Christ's birth - even Halloween as the celebration of good over evil, is no offence toward God. All things are lawful for those who are in Christ Jesus.

I Love ya Man! But good luck with that. God the Same Yesterday, Today, and Forever. In Malachi 3:6 - For I Am the Lord, I do not Change!!

 

[bbyrd009]

Yes and no. Yes, there are things that still are an offence. But no, not all things are an offence since Christ overcame the world. Much of what was once an offence, is now captured territory, the spoils. But it is important to make the distinction, that what we do, we do unto our Lord. Therefore, Easter as the celebration of Passover, and Christmas as the celebration of Christ's birth - even Halloween as the celebration of good over evil, is no offence toward God. All things are lawful for those who are in Christ Jesus.

hmm.

 

[DPMartin]

this is usually perceived as a test of Moses' heart i think

excellent observation

not a test so much though more of, see what you are, or the fruits of God's work in a man. just what did Moses realize after he said it, and no doubt Moses also realized this was a result of his God's influence with him. didn't Lord sometime later verify that Moses was a gentle man?

hence a up close view of a true servant of God of which was documented for the rest of the generations to see.

 

[ScottA]

I Love ya Man! But good luck with that. God the Same Yesterday, Today, and Forever. In Malachi 3:6 - For I Am the Lord, I do not Change!!

It is not God who changes....but...hopefully, people. You know, like, "repent", "a new creation", "all things have been made new", etc..