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Nope. All believers are the "little flock," which is not really little at all. They will number as the stars in the heavens and the grains of sand on the sea shore... that no one will be able to count.
God is very clear that heaven and earth will be one. Revelation 21 is very clear.
We are co-heirs with Christ Jesus.
Ah. Well...
I agree that Revelation 20:6 (actually vv.4-6) describes the first resurrection, but for those of us who have been saved, we have experienced this first resurrection -- new birth in the Spirit, which Paul describes in Ephesians 2:They are all the same... God's Israel, part of the remnant God has saved for Himself. As Paul says in Romans 11, "Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way all Israel will be saved."
Yeah, nobody "leaves earth," ever, except for those who are sent away by Jesus at the conclusion of the final Judgment, which occurs upon/very shortly after His return and the second resurrection (Matthew 7:21-23, Matthew 25:31-46, John 5:28-29, Revelation 20:7-15). This is all one really big event, happening in very short order.
Well, at the end of the current age. Christ is reigning right now from heaven, along with those who are in Christ who have passed, who are, in the words of Revelation 20, coming to life and reigning with Christ over the course of this age. And this will continue until His return, at which time Israel will be complete, which will close out the present age, "these last days," as the writer of Hebrews puts it in Hebrews 1:2, in which God has spoken to us by his Son. The Millennium of Revelation 20 is not a literal 1000-year period and not future only but going on right now (since Pentecost and lasting until Jesus's return. It is symbolic of the fullness of God's time in bringing Israel to completion, which, again, is what Paul is saying in Romans 11, cited above and again here, that "a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in... (a)nd in this way all Israel will be saved." Christ's millennial reign from heaven and the tribulation (the time of Jacob's trouble (Jeremiah 30, Matthew 24:6-8, 1 Thessalonians 5:3, are concurrent events, and we are in the midst of both, now. God never promises to remove us from trial/tribulation/trouble, but to walk with us in the midst of it, as Psalm 23 says so eloquently and magnificently (through David; emphasis added):
You're more than welcome to your opinion. Mine, regarding you is right along the lines of what Paul says in 2 Timothy 4:3-4, where he writes, "For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths."
Ah. Well...
"But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ ~ by grace you have been saved ~ and raised us up..." ~ resurrected us ~ "...with Him and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus..."
...even though we are (of course) not physically dead yet... have not experienced the first death. We are in the midst of the time period described in Revelation 20:4-6 right now.
They are all the same... God's Israel, part of the remnant God has saved for Himself. As Paul says in Romans 11, "Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way all Israel will be saved."
Yeah, nobody "leaves earth," ever, except for those who are sent away by Jesus at the conclusion of the final Judgment, which occurs upon/very shortly after His return and the second resurrection (Matthew 7:21-23, Matthew 25:31-46, John 5:28-29, Revelation 20:7-15). This is all one really big event, happening in very short order.
Well, at the end of the current age. Christ is reigning right now from heaven, along with those who are in Christ who have passed, who are, in the words of Revelation 20, coming to life and reigning with Christ over the course of this age. And this will continue until His return, at which time Israel will be complete, which will close out the present age, "these last days," as the writer of Hebrews puts it in Hebrews 1:2, in which God has spoken to us by his Son. The Millennium of Revelation 20 is not a literal 1000-year period and not future only but going on right now (since Pentecost and lasting until Jesus's return. It is symbolic of the fullness of God's time in bringing Israel to completion, which, again, is what Paul is saying in Romans 11, cited above and again here, that "a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in... (a)nd in this way all Israel will be saved." Christ's millennial reign from heaven and the tribulation (the time of Jacob's trouble (Jeremiah 30, Matthew 24:6-8, 1 Thessalonians 5:3, are concurrent events, and we are in the midst of both, now. God never promises to remove us from trial/tribulation/trouble, but to walk with us in the midst of it, as Psalm 23 says so eloquently and magnificently (through David; emphasis added):
"The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters. He restores my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness for his name’s sake. Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for You are with me; Your rod and your staff, they comfort me. You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; You anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD forever."
You're more than welcome to your opinion. Mine, regarding you is right along the lines of what Paul says in 2 Timothy 4:3-4, where he writes, "For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths."
Grace and peace to you.
Well I agree with this, but your understanding of this tribulation is erroneous.
Well yes, when Jesus returns. 1 Corinthians 15:52. Sure. Which is at the close of the tribulation period/age.
We can't really know this. All we really know is that ultimately, it ~ Israel, God's Israel ~ will consist of a multitude of persons, greater than anyone can number, from every tongue, tribe, and nation.
LOL!
Well I agree with this, but your understanding of this tribulation is erroneous.
Well yes, when Jesus returns. 1 Corinthians 15:52. Sure. Which is at the close of the tribulation period/age.
We can't really know this. All we really know is that ultimately, it ~ Israel, God's Israel ~ will consist of a multitude of persons, greater than anyone can number, from every tongue, tribe, and nation.
LOL!
Grace and peace to you, Keiw.
Exactly my point. The New World Translation is not all bad...
... much of it is, well, reengineered to express things quite opposed to the Hebrew (Old Testament) and Greek (New Testament) texts of the Bible, especially concerning the nature of the triune Jehovah and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit individually.
Exactly my point. The New World Translation is not all bad...
Grace and peace to you.
So goes the Watchtower narrative. It's very... creative (in several ways).
At any rate, time and truth are on the same side.
So goes the Watchtower narrative. It's very... creative (in several ways).
Grace and peace to you.
You might then consider the God you have?
Your god is vulnerable? Then your god is not the Christian God. What is your god vulnerable to?
No, are you?
No, I'm not God.
Honestly that sounds like Satanic accusations.
Why are you making false accusations like Satan's children do?
What does that have to do with God of the Bible who drowned all but 8 "making them an example"?
