Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?
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Something to that.
Seems that isms are often created by historians and critics.
You can make anything seem spurious by slapping an ism on its caboose. - LOL
"Oh, that's just ___________ism." (fill in the blank)
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Eternally Grateful
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In my view she would be in heaven, She had not yet reached the age of accountability
Yes, this is serious. People eternity is at stake.. we should not take this lightly.
Eternally Grateful
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What is hell?
To me it is the final resting place for all who have rejected God.
I am not even sure Hell is created yet. Everyone who dies having rejected Christ currently goes to hades, where they await final judgment
Eternally Grateful
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Your parodys do not work
We may not like the truth, but the truth is the truth
The truth is that everyone is guilty before God. God can not allow sin in heaven. He paid the penalty for all sin on the cross. With the exception of one.
No one will be cast to outer darkness because of a personal sin, he paid the price for that
They will be cast to outer darkness because they did nto believe, they rejected the thing that could have saved them, For whatever reason. they CHOSE to deny God and his provision which could have saved them.. because they loved their sin..
According to Scripture the dead shall be judged according to what is written in the books and the book of life. For all whose names are not found recorded in the book of life are cast into the lake of fire that is the SECOND DEATH. How is dying a second time forever not inference of a harsh sentence? Only those found to be in Christ at the judgment throne shall not die this second death that whatever it is, is without end.
Hebrews 9:27-28 (KJV) And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Eternally Grateful
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I do not have to do anything
God said the penalty of sin is death
He sent his son to pay that penalty in his place. And he offers that salvation to everyone
If you believe, you will recieve that justification
If you deny it. You will not recieve that justification and suffer the fate YOU CHOSE.
You need to stop blaming God because people gave God the finger and said no. I love my sin to much, or no, I am not that bad of a person. or because in unbelief, they made up their own Gods and chose to follow them instead of the real God.
Yes Christ came to save His creation, and those people living in His creation who believe in/on Him for everlasting life.
That's a doctrinal workaround.
Is not every human born a member of Adam's fallen race?
Once again, our God-given human conscience wreaks havoc with bad theology.
Like: "God is not incinerating no one. He is allowing people to chose where they want to spend eternity."
Hell is not created yet?
Matthew 25:41 NIV
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed,
into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
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Where was God when the Devil appeared before him twice in the book of Job?
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How is it not the final verdict since it is the SECOND DEATH that is forever? We must obtain God's mercy through the work of Christ before we die. Because after we die then comes the judgment? Judgment to the second death has no mercy for there is only unending death!
Because Scripture says men die once then comes the judgment. Since being cast into the lake of fire is the SECOND DEATH, how can it not be final? How many more times will those in the lake of fire be permitted to live once and die again, and again, and again? Death IMO is death of the whole, that is body, spirit/soul. In life before we physically die, we "were dead (spiritually) in trespasses and sins", but physically alive. The lake of fire as the second death is not only spiritual death, it is complete, the whole/entire living soul shall perish when going there.
Whether the second death in the lake of fire involves eternal suffering I cannot say, I can only say with assurance that whatever the second death is, it never ends.
Judgment after "the first death" wouldn't make it final. Everyone will be judged, right?
And if the second death is final, it couldn't be eternal. Nothing final about that. (unresolved)
Especially when death and hell themselves will be thrown in the LOF.
Therefore, probably neither final nor eternal. What then?
Mark 9:49
Everyone will be salted with fire.
Malachi 3:2
But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears?
For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer’s soap.
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Eternally Grateful
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She is either in heaven or hell for all eternity..
I chose to believe since she had no ability to say yes she would be in heaven,
But I can not prove that
Not sure what this has to do with a baby
It wreaks habit on good theology also. Because until we are born again. The things of God are foolishness to us. In fact. it would be easier for a human to believe bad theology than good.
Thats just the biblical truth
again, if you do not like it, Thats not my fault.. Explain to God why you do not like his justice system
This is a future even, after this heavens and earth are destroyed and made new.
Eternally Grateful
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He was not in the place prepared for those who will be his children.
remember, Jesus said he will go prepare a place for us..
Eternally Grateful
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You need to stop bearing false witness against me
God does love his enemies,
He loves them so much he died for them, so he can offer them salvation.
and he loves them so much he will no longer force them to recieve his gift of salvation, than he would force adam and eve to not eat of the tree of good and evil.
Eternally Grateful
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once a person leaves this earth.
the fact of whether they will recieve mercy or judgment is set in stone.
