Jesus said no such thing that I recall. Chapter and verse, please.But like jesus said, Unless you look to the cross. It will not be given to you
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Jesus said no such thing that I recall. Chapter and verse, please.But like jesus said, Unless you look to the cross. It will not be given to you
I actually keep quoting a part of it every post I have made todayJesus said no such thing that I recall. Chapter and verse, please.
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St. SteVen said:But like jesus said, Unless you look to the cross. It will not be given to you
Thanks. That confirms what I wrote. Jesus said no such thing.I actually keep quoting a part of it every post I have made today
John 3: 3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
You did not read what I said. Jesus mentioned Moses lifting the serpent, did you go read that story?St. SteVen said:
Jesus said no such thing that I recall. Chapter and verse, please.
whateverThanks. That confirms what I wrote. Jesus said no such thing.
He will restore the earthBut, yes, "unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
This is what the age of restoration is for.
A time for judgment, correction, restoration and redemption before we enter the kingdom of God.
Acts 3:21 NIV
Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything,
as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.
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Get well soon.You did not read what I said. Jesus mentioned Moses lifting the serpent, did you go read that story?
Numbers 21:8
Then the Lord said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and it shall be that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, shall live.”
Jesus said that just as moses lifted the serpent, so to must the son of man be lifted up. that whoever believes.
What seperates those who believe from those who do not believe.
Those who believe, just like they did in Numbers. look.. those who do not do not
what happens to those who do not look, they suffer their fate, they are not saved..
Thats why jesus said, whoever believes is not condemned, whoever does not believe is condemned alread
whatever
He will restore the earth
He is not going to restore people who reject him
once again, He who believes is not condemned, He who does nto believe is condemned already, You think God is going to save people who give him the finger until the day they die, you got another thing coming, they will die the second death, which is eternal
Jesus taught us that loving our enemies is godly behavior.You think God is going to save people who give him the finger until the day they die, you got another thing coming
He did love them, He died for themJesus taught us that loving our enemies is godly behavior.
Would God do any less than what he requires of us?
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And now he hates them?He did love them, He died for them
LOLBut he will not force them to receive his gift.
Sure. I agree.We are saved by Grace, but only through faith
Why are you building your argument on one verse with no consideration for anything else?Again, he who believes is not condemned, He who does not believe is condemned already
why will you not acknowledge Jesus words?
Nope. He still loves them.And now he hates them?
NothingWhat changed?
yes. But you do not force those you love to do somethign they do not want to. Thats what Satan wants you to believe, God makes us all puppets.They are still enemies to be loved, right?
It is a free gift. If you refuse. You will remain condemned.LOL
So, it's a free gift, but if you refuse it you will be incinerated?
Oh,What kind of free gift is that? Sounds more like extortion.
He made them an offer they can't refuse.they loved darkness more than light?
How can you agree when you say I will be saved even if I have no faith?Sure. I agree.
One verse? I can show you many verses.. But if one verse exposes you.. and you can not explain it. Why do to other verses?Why are you building your argument on one verse with no consideration for anything else?
What does this have to do with God allowing people who reject him in unbelief to heaven?Was this scripture below written about believers? (nope)
Is it about being saved by grace through faith? (nope)
Do you believe the Apostle Paul?
Romans 2:14-16 NIV
(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law,
they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law.
15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts,
their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them
and at other times even defending them.)
16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets
through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
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1 Corinthians 15:22-24 NIVI'm familiar with that claim. It falls apart on closer examination.
It assumes that everyone had an opportunity to choose. Is that true? (nope)
And also ignores that fact that no one can come to God unless he brings them.
Countless billions have entered the afterlife with no knowledge of your claims.
Doesn't the Bible say that the gospel is foolishness? (to those who don't understand it)
Agree. Each in turn.
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in turn...
All will be.
1 Corinthians 15:22-24 NIV
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.
24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father
after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.
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So... you don't have children, do you? - LOLyes. But you do not force those you love to do somethign they do not want to.
Nope. But then I don't incinerate them for not taking the gift either.So do you force your kids to take gifts they do not want?
1 Corinthians 15:22-24 NIV
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.
24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father
after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.
Here's a great explanation from a good friend of mine.Not all are in Christ Jesus.
you keep saying incinerateSo... you don't have children, do you? - LOL
Nope. But then I don't incinerate them for not taking the gift either.
That would be cruel and sadistic. Not to mention murderous.
Is this what you are accusing God of?
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That is wrong on so many levels. - LOLyou keep saying incinerate
God is not incinerating no one. He is allowing people to chose where they want to spend eternity
Who created hell? (from your perspective)God is not incinerating no one. He is allowing people to chose where they want to spend eternity
That's not a choice. That is extortion.God is not incinerating no one. He is allowing people to chose where they want to spend eternity
Reminds me of what military men say to accuse war atrocities.God is not incinerating no one. He is allowing people to chose where they want to spend eternity