Will there be or is there a need for a future Messianic age?

[Marty fox]

Will there be or is there a need for a future Messianic temple age?

What is the Jewish belief in Moshiach or the Messiah?

One of the principles of Jewish faith enumerated by Maimonides is that one day there will arise a dynamic Jewish leader, a direct descendant of the Davidic dynasty, who will rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem, and gather Jews from all over the world and bring them back to the Land of Israel.

All the nations of the world will recognize Moshiach to be a world leader, and will accept his dominion. In the messianic era there will be world peace, no more wars nor famine, and, in general, a high standard of living.

All mankind will worship one God, and live a more spiritual and moral way of life. The Jewish nation will be preoccupied with learning Torah and fathoming its secrets.

The coming of Moshiach will complete God’s purpose in creation: for man to make an abode for God in the lower worlds—that is, to reveal the inherent spirituality in the material world.

Christians already know that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah but why was He rejected? .

There are two reasons why the Jews didn’t accept Jesus as the Messiah one being that they expected the Messiah to deliver them from human bondage and rule of Rome and set up a physical messianic temple kingdom in Jerusalem but what exactly is the messianic temple age or kingdom?

In Abrahamic religions , the Messianic Age is the future period of time on Earth in which the Messiah will reign and bring universal peace and brotherhood
, without any evil . Many believe that there will be such an age; some refer to it as the consummate " kingdom of God " or the " world to come ".

The other reason the Jews rejected Jesus is because He claimed to be God. The Jews don’t believe that the Messiah is God thus they didn't realize that the Messiah and God are one. The Jews are not looking for the Messiah to deliver them from their sins only to deliver them from human rule and bondage and set up the messianic kingdom but what Jesus did was far greater He being God paid the price by His sacrifice on the cross and saved them from their sins.

It wasn’t a blasphemy to claim to be the Messiah in Jesus’ day but it was blasphemy to claim to be God and this is the reason that the Pharisees sentenced Jesus to death when He claimed to be the Son of man from Daniel 7:13-14 during His trial thus claiming that He and the Father are one.

If Jesus already fulfilled the purpose for the sacrificial temple age through the cross is there really a need for a future messianic sacrificial temple age?

Why would God still impose a messianic temple age which only pointed to Jesus if Jesus already fulfilled its purpose?

This is the main reason why I don't believe in a future messianic thousand year temple age or even a future third temple as there is no need or purpose for it as it would only push the non believing Jews further away from Jesus.

 

[michaelvpardo]

Will there be or is there a need for a future Messianic temple age?

What is the Jewish belief in Moshiach or the Messiah?

One of the principles of Jewish faith enumerated by Maimonides is that one day there will arise a dynamic Jewish leader, a direct descendant of the Davidic dynasty, who will rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem, and gather Jews from all over the world and bring them back to the Land of Israel.

All the nations of the world will recognize Moshiach to be a world leader, and will accept his dominion. In the messianic era there will be world peace, no more wars nor famine, and, in general, a high standard of living.

All mankind will worship one God, and live a more spiritual and moral way of life. The Jewish nation will be preoccupied with learning Torah and fathoming its secrets.

The coming of Moshiach will complete God’s purpose in creation: for man to make an abode for God in the lower worlds—that is, to reveal the inherent spirituality in the material world.

Christians already know that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah but why was He rejected? .

There are two reasons why the Jews didn’t accept Jesus as the Messiah one being that they expected the Messiah to deliver them from human bondage and rule of Rome and set up a physical messianic temple kingdom in Jerusalem but what exactly is the messianic temple age or kingdom?

In Abrahamic religions , the Messianic Age is the future period of time on Earth in which the Messiah will reign and bring universal peace and brotherhood
, without any evil . Many believe that there will be such an age; some refer to it as the consummate " kingdom of God " or the " world to come ".

The other reason the Jews rejected Jesus is because He claimed to be God. The Jews don’t believe that the Messiah is God thus they didn't realize that the Messiah and God are one. The Jews are not looking for the Messiah to deliver them from their sins only to deliver them from human rule and bondage and set up the messianic kingdom but what Jesus did was far greater He being God paid the price by His sacrifice on the cross and saved them from their sins.

It wasn’t a blasphemy to claim to be the Messiah in Jesus’ day but it was blasphemy to claim to be God and this is the reason that the Pharisees sentenced Jesus to death when He claimed to be the Son of man from Daniel 7:13-14 during His trial thus claiming that He and the Father are one.

If Jesus already fulfilled the purpose for the sacrificial temple age through the cross is there really a need for a future messianic sacrificial temple age?

Why would God still impose a messianic temple age which only pointed to Jesus if Jesus already fulfilled its purpose?

This is the main reason why I don't believe in a future messianic thousand year temple age or even a future third temple as there is no need or purpose for it as it would only push the non believing Jews further away from Jesus.

You make a reasonable argument, but you're missing an important and very significant fact. The angels go through a judgment too. Paul says this himself.
"Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? " 1 Corinthians 6:3
Paul didn't elaborate upon when or where this judgment occurs, but the angelic host is represented by the stars, the host of heaven and scripture informs us that the entire host are to fall from the sky during "the judgment. "

"All the host of heaven shall be dissolved, And the heavens shall be rolled up like a scroll; All their host shall fall down As the leaf falls from the vine, And as fruit falling from a fig tree." Isaiah 34:4 (Jesus described this as well)

Since the Holy angels aren't cast into the lake of fire, where do they fall to but the Earth? The millennial kingdom satisfies many promises of God, but it's also the only way to judge the angels. The angels are witnesses to history. They have observed everything that's ever happened and as ministers of the law, they judged men by the standard of the law. Jesus declared that we are judged according to the standard by which we judge, so why imagine that the angels are judged in some other way. However, no angel can be judged according to human experience and the law without having lived as we do. The millennial kingdom provides that opportunity.
We see this in the manner of the fall of the prince of Tyre:
"The word of the Lord came to me again, saying, “Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre, ‘Thus says the Lord God:
“Because your heart is lifted up,
And you say, ‘I am a god,
I sit in the seat of gods,
In the midst of the seas,’
Yet you are a man, and not a god,
Though you set your heart as the heart of a god. Ezekiel 28:1-2

"Will you still say before him who slays you,
‘I am a god’?
But you shall be a man, and not a god,
In the hand of him who slays you. You shall die the death of the uncircumcised By the hand of aliens; For I have spoken,” says the Lord God.’ ” Ezekiel 28:9-10

It's not an explicitly taught doctrine in scripture, yet it's there.

 

[Marty fox]

You make a reasonable argument, but you're missing an important and very significant fact. The angels go through a judgment too. Paul says this himself.
"Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? " 1 Corinthians 6:3
Paul didn't elaborate upon when or where this judgment occurs, but the angelic host is represented by the stars, the host of heaven and scripture informs us that the entire host are to fall from the sky during "the judgment. "

"All the host of heaven shall be dissolved, And the heavens shall be rolled up like a scroll; All their host shall fall down As the leaf falls from the vine, And as fruit falling from a fig tree." Isaiah 34:4 (Jesus described this as well)

Since the Holy angels aren't cast into the lake of fire, where do they fall to but the Earth? The millennial kingdom satisfies many promises of God, but it's also the only way to judge the angels. The angels are witnesses to history. They have observed everything that's ever happened and as ministers of the law, they judged men by the standard of the law. Jesus declared that we are judged according to the standard by which we judge, so why imagine that the angels are judged in some other way. However, no angel can be judged according to human experience and the law without having lived as we do. The millennial kingdom provides that opportunity.
We see this in the manner of the fall of the prince of Tyre:
"The word of the Lord came to me again, saying, “Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre, ‘Thus says the Lord God:
“Because your heart is lifted up,
And you say, ‘I am a god,
I sit in the seat of gods,
In the midst of the seas,’
Yet you are a man, and not a god,
Though you set your heart as the heart of a god. Ezekiel 28:1-2

"Will you still say before him who slays you,
‘I am a god’?
But you shall be a man, and not a god,
In the hand of him who slays you. You shall die the death of the uncircumcised By the hand of aliens; For I have spoken,” says the Lord God.’ ” Ezekiel 28:9-10

It's not an explicitly taught doctrine in scripture, yet it's there.

I don't see how that has any bearing on my post the lake of fire was created for satan and his fallen angles on the judgement day

Matthew 25:41
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

 

[ScottA]

Will there be or is there a need for a future Messianic temple age?

What is the Jewish belief in Moshiach or the Messiah?

One of the principles of Jewish faith enumerated by Maimonides is that one day there will arise a dynamic Jewish leader, a direct descendant of the Davidic dynasty, who will rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem, and gather Jews from all over the world and bring them back to the Land of Israel.

All the nations of the world will recognize Moshiach to be a world leader, and will accept his dominion. In the messianic era there will be world peace, no more wars nor famine, and, in general, a high standard of living.

All mankind will worship one God, and live a more spiritual and moral way of life. The Jewish nation will be preoccupied with learning Torah and fathoming its secrets.

The coming of Moshiach will complete God’s purpose in creation: for man to make an abode for God in the lower worlds—that is, to reveal the inherent spirituality in the material world.

Christians already know that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah but why was He rejected? .

There are two reasons why the Jews didn’t accept Jesus as the Messiah one being that they expected the Messiah to deliver them from human bondage and rule of Rome and set up a physical messianic temple kingdom in Jerusalem but what exactly is the messianic temple age or kingdom?

In Abrahamic religions , the Messianic Age is the future period of time on Earth in which the Messiah will reign and bring universal peace and brotherhood
, without any evil . Many believe that there will be such an age; some refer to it as the consummate " kingdom of God " or the " world to come ".

The other reason the Jews rejected Jesus is because He claimed to be God. The Jews don’t believe that the Messiah is God thus they didn't realize that the Messiah and God are one. The Jews are not looking for the Messiah to deliver them from their sins only to deliver them from human rule and bondage and set up the messianic kingdom but what Jesus did was far greater He being God paid the price by His sacrifice on the cross and saved them from their sins.

It wasn’t a blasphemy to claim to be the Messiah in Jesus’ day but it was blasphemy to claim to be God and this is the reason that the Pharisees sentenced Jesus to death when He claimed to be the Son of man from Daniel 7:13-14 during His trial thus claiming that He and the Father are one.

If Jesus already fulfilled the purpose for the sacrificial temple age through the cross is there really a need for a future messianic sacrificial temple age?

Why would God still impose a messianic temple age which only pointed to Jesus if Jesus already fulfilled its purpose?

This is the main reason why I don't believe in a future messianic thousand year temple age or even a future third temple as there is no need or purpose for it as it would only push the non believing Jews further away from Jesus.

This is the Messianic age, His reign began 2,000 years ago:

Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.​

 

[Marty fox]

This is the Messianic age, His reign began 2,000 years ago:

Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.​

Amen

 

[jeffweeder]

Will there be or is there a need for a future Messianic temple age?

What is the Jewish belief in Moshiach or the Messiah?

One of the principles of Jewish faith enumerated by Maimonides is that one day there will arise a dynamic Jewish leader, a direct descendant of the Davidic dynasty, who will rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem, and gather Jews from all over the world and bring them back to the Land of Israel.

All the nations of the world will recognize Moshiach to be a world leader, and will accept his dominion. In the messianic era there will be world peace, no more wars nor famine, and, in general, a high standard of living.

All mankind will worship one God, and live a more spiritual and moral way of life. The Jewish nation will be preoccupied with learning Torah and fathoming its secrets.

The coming of Moshiach will complete God’s purpose in creation: for man to make an abode for God in the lower worlds—that is, to reveal the inherent spirituality in the material world.

Christians already know that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah but why was He rejected? .

There are two reasons why the Jews didn’t accept Jesus as the Messiah one being that they expected the Messiah to deliver them from human bondage and rule of Rome and set up a physical messianic temple kingdom in Jerusalem but what exactly is the messianic temple age or kingdom?

In Abrahamic religions , the Messianic Age is the future period of time on Earth in which the Messiah will reign and bring universal peace and brotherhood
, without any evil . Many believe that there will be such an age; some refer to it as the consummate " kingdom of God " or the " world to come ".

The other reason the Jews rejected Jesus is because He claimed to be God. The Jews don’t believe that the Messiah is God thus they didn't realize that the Messiah and God are one. The Jews are not looking for the Messiah to deliver them from their sins only to deliver them from human rule and bondage and set up the messianic kingdom but what Jesus did was far greater He being God paid the price by His sacrifice on the cross and saved them from their sins.

It wasn’t a blasphemy to claim to be the Messiah in Jesus’ day but it was blasphemy to claim to be God and this is the reason that the Pharisees sentenced Jesus to death when He claimed to be the Son of man from Daniel 7:13-14 during His trial thus claiming that He and the Father are one.

If Jesus already fulfilled the purpose for the sacrificial temple age through the cross is there really a need for a future messianic sacrificial temple age?

Why would God still impose a messianic temple age which only pointed to Jesus if Jesus already fulfilled its purpose?

This is the main reason why I don't believe in a future messianic thousand year temple age or even a future third temple as there is no need or purpose for it as it would only push the non believing Jews further away from Jesus.

Well said.
That dynamic Jewish leader from David's line has already arrived and risen. Through faith, repentance and sanctification and not sight does he draw all people to himself.

Acts 17
30 Therefore God overlooked and disregarded the former ages of ignorance; but now He commands all people everywhere to repent [that is, to change their old way of thinking, to regret their past sins, and to seek God’s purpose for their lives], 31 because He has set a day when He will judge the inhabited world in righteousness by a Man whom He has appointed and destined for that task, and He has provided credible proof to everyone by raising Him from the dead.”

2Thess 2
13 But we should and are [morally] obligated [as debtors] always to give thanks to God for you, believers beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through the sanctifying work of the Spirit [that sets you apart for God’s purpose] and by your faith in the truth [of God’s word that leads you to spiritual maturity]. 14 It was to this end that He called you through our gospel [the good news of Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection], so that you may obtain and share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold [tightly] to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us.

16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting comfort and encouragement and the good [well-founded] hope [of salvation] by His grace, 17 comfort and encourage and strengthen your hearts [keeping them steadfast and on course] in every good work and word.

 

[Marty fox]

Well said.
That dynamic Jewish leader from David's line has already arrived and risen. Through faith, repentance and sanctification and not sight does he draw all people to himself.

Acts 17
30 Therefore God overlooked and disregarded the former ages of ignorance; but now He commands all people everywhere to repent [that is, to change their old way of thinking, to regret their past sins, and to seek God’s purpose for their lives], 31 because He has set a day when He will judge the inhabited world in righteousness by a Man whom He has appointed and destined for that task, and He has provided credible proof to everyone by raising Him from the dead.”

2Thess 2
13 But we should and are [morally] obligated [as debtors] always to give thanks to God for you, believers beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through the sanctifying work of the Spirit [that sets you apart for God’s purpose] and by your faith in the truth [of God’s word that leads you to spiritual maturity]. 14 It was to this end that He called you through our gospel [the good news of Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection], so that you may obtain and share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold [tightly] to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us.

16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting comfort and encouragement and the good [well-founded] hope [of salvation] by His grace, 17 comfort and encourage and strengthen your hearts [keeping them steadfast and on course] in every good work and word.

Amen

 

[Enoch111]

Will there be or is there a need for a future Messianic temple age?

"Yes" to both.

 

[DavidTaylor]

This answers the question.
The Holy Spirit leads where He may.

“Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.” John 4:20-21


“Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body. When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.” Mark 2:18-22


“As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.” John 17:2-4


“When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.” John 19:30


“You were not born as Jews. You are the people the Jews call “uncircumcised.” Those Jews who call you “uncircumcised” call themselves “circumcised.” (Their circumcision is only something they themselves do to their bodies.) Remember that in the past you were without Christ. You were not citizens of Israel, and you did not know about the agreements with the promises that God made to his people. You had no hope, and you did not know God. Yes, at one time you were far away from God, but now in Christ Jesus, you are brought near to him. You are brought near to God through the blood sacrifice of Christ. Christ is the reason we are now at peace. He made us Jews and you who are not Jews one people. We were separated by a wall of hate that stood between us, but Christ broke down that wall. By giving his own body, Christ ended the law with its many commands and rules. His purpose was to make the two groups become one in him. By doing this he would make peace. Through the cross Christ ended the hate between the two groups. And after they became one body, he wanted to bring them both back to God. He did this with his death on the cross. Christ came and brought the message of peace to you non-Jews who were far away from God. And he brought that message of peace to those who were near to God. Yes, through Christ we all have the right to come to the Father in one Spirit. So now you non-Jewish people are not visitors or strangers, but you are citizens together with God’s holy people. You belong to God’s family. You believers are like a building that God owns. That building was built on the foundation that the apostles and prophets prepared. Christ Jesus himself is the most important stone in that building. The whole building is joined together in Christ, and he makes it grow and become a holy temple in the Lord. And in Christ you are being built together with his other people. You are being made into a place where God lives through the Spirit.” Ephesian 2:11-22

“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them,
Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.” Acts 4:36-40

“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.” Ephesians 4:4-6

“ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” 2 Cor 6:16

 

[Marty fox]

This answers the question.
The Holy Spirit leads where He may.

“Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.” John 4:20-21


“Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body. When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.” Mark 2:18-22


“As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.” John 17:2-4


“When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.” John 19:30


“You were not born as Jews. You are the people the Jews call “uncircumcised.” Those Jews who call you “uncircumcised” call themselves “circumcised.” (Their circumcision is only something they themselves do to their bodies.) Remember that in the past you were without Christ. You were not citizens of Israel, and you did not know about the agreements with the promises that God made to his people. You had no hope, and you did not know God. Yes, at one time you were far away from God, but now in Christ Jesus, you are brought near to him. You are brought near to God through the blood sacrifice of Christ. Christ is the reason we are now at peace. He made us Jews and you who are not Jews one people. We were separated by a wall of hate that stood between us, but Christ broke down that wall. By giving his own body, Christ ended the law with its many commands and rules. His purpose was to make the two groups become one in him. By doing this he would make peace. Through the cross Christ ended the hate between the two groups. And after they became one body, he wanted to bring them both back to God. He did this with his death on the cross. Christ came and brought the message of peace to you non-Jews who were far away from God. And he brought that message of peace to those who were near to God. Yes, through Christ we all have the right to come to the Father in one Spirit. So now you non-Jewish people are not visitors or strangers, but you are citizens together with God’s holy people. You belong to God’s family. You believers are like a building that God owns. That building was built on the foundation that the apostles and prophets prepared. Christ Jesus himself is the most important stone in that building. The whole building is joined together in Christ, and he makes it grow and become a holy temple in the Lord. And in Christ you are being built together with his other people. You are being made into a place where God lives through the Spirit.” Ephesian 2:11-22

“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them,
Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.” Acts 4:36-40

“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.” Ephesians 4:4-6

“ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” 2 Cor 6:16

Amen thanks David. Are you the same David Taylor from the other site?

 

[DavidTaylor]

Amen thanks David. Are you the same David Taylor from the other site?

Yes, I was a member of BibleForums.org since the late 90s.
I remember you Marty, and several other names who post here.

 

[Taken]

Will there be or is there a need for a future Messianic age?
OP ^

Yes and Yes.

 

[Marty fox]

Yes, I was a member of BibleForums.org since the late 90s.
I remember you Marty, and several other names who post here.

Well glad to see you here

 

[michaelvpardo]

I don't see how that has any bearing on my post the lake of fire was created for satan and his fallen angles on the judgement day

Matthew 25:41
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

I thought your post was about a millennial kingdom and the primary reason for such a kingdom with a temple and its practices would be the judgement of angels living under the same law that they ministered.

 

[michaelvpardo]

This is the Messianic age, His reign began 2,000 years ago:

Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.​

If that were true, we'd be observing the Feast of Tabernacles every year. Do you?

 

[Marty fox]

I thought your post was about a millennial kingdom and the primary reason for such a kingdom with a temple and its practices would be the judgement of angels living under the same law that they ministered.

No I never mentioned that in my post it didn’t even come to my mind. My point is that there isn’t a need or purpose for a future 1000 years. Jesus already fulfilled it all.

 

[michaelvpardo]

No I never mentioned that in my post it didn’t even come to my mind. My point is that there isn’t a need or purpose for a future 1000 years. Jesus already fulfilled it all.

The future 1000 years refers to the millennial kingdom, and if Jesus fulfilled it, when did the heavenly host fall to Earth for their turn at life in the flesh?

 

[Marty fox]

The future 1000 years refers to the millennial kingdom, and if Jesus fulfilled it, when did the heavenly host fall to Earth for their turn at life in the flesh?

Did you read the OP and see how Jesus fulfilling it?

The fallen angels never fall to the earth and become human the bible never mentions that. The prince of Tyre was alive during Ezekiel’s day that was why Ezekiel was to tell him what God had said.

Once again see what Jesus said that the lake of fire was for.

Matthew 25:41
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

 

[michaelvpardo]

Did you read the OP and see how Jesus fulfilling it?

The fallen angels never fall to the earth and become human the bible never mentions that. The prince of Tyre was alive during Ezekiel’s day that was why Ezekiel was to tell him what God had said.

Once again see what Jesus said that the lake of fire was for.

Matthew 25:41
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

OK, got it. See you in the millennial kingdom, or not.

 

[Enoch111]

My point is that there isn’t a need or purpose for a future 1000 years. Jesus already fulfilled it all.

This is simply laughable. If Jesus "fulfilled" the Millennium, we should now be living is "the New Heavens and the New Earth". And that would mean an earth which has been TOTALLY CLEANSED from all sin and evil -- wherein dwelleth "everlasting righteousness".

This forum is simply full of bizarre ad nonsensical ideas. I trust everyone is on their toes, and does not believe all the nonsense being posted daily.