Mental Disorder of LGBT: Analysis - Spiritual, Political and Scientific

[Wrangler]

To say your post is dishonest is an understatement. Homosexuality is a behavior. They are not a minority group.

Agreed. Being a Cultural Marxist, he must use deception to advance his agenda.

He is indoctrinated with the feminized notion that feelings dictate reality, that one can "be" homosexual without the behavior. By divorcing the word from the action, he invents a minority group of those who have attributes outside of choice, like skin color or gender (sex).

In Cultural Marxism, there must be an oppressed group and an oppressor group. If one does not exist, they will invent one by denying action, choice is the proper domain upon which to cast moral judgement.

 

[Wrangler]

I disagree with those who try to use the bible to justify their own personal prejudices.

The gay agenda is morally wrong. There is no personal prejudice involved.

 

[Lizbeth]

I didn't use the Bible for that. When I was a sinner, I absolutely hated homosexuals and wished them dead. As a Christian, I no longer feel hate for them, but I recognize their lifestyle is sinful and they need to repent if they want to go to Heaven. If anything, the Bible caused me to become more tolerant.

Amen. I have wondered if the flesh of men in particular instinctively knows that homosexuality is counter to the survival and continuance of the human herd and seeks to eradicate and cull it out so to speak. But in Christ we become or ought to be compassionate, no longer sowing to the flesh but the spirit, and walking in the spirit. Recognizing that we're not warring against flesh and blood but with powers and principalities. Violence and hate are not the answer, but the gospel is, and leave God to do the judging when the time comes, as He will judge all of us.

 

[Lizbeth]

I did not address it, but I do not believe the government has any place forcing anyone to do business with anyone. I oppose anti-discrimination laws, and I am glad the Supreme Court now agrees with me that the government cannot force anyone to violate their conscience in doing business with homosexuals. I wouldn't have done it regardless. I would have chosen not to make wedding cakes or photograph any weddings rather than put up with being forced to violate my conscience.

As for the video, why should I care what this woman thinks? As a Bible-believing Christian, I take the position of scripture. That book should be banned, but my view is that if that kind of garbage is allowed in the schools, I would home school rather than expose my kids to it.

Even apes and monkey socialize their offspring to the norms of their species for the sake of survival. The devil is seeking to socialize kids in a wrong way and thus destroy and cause chaos in the human race - he is against order and walking orderly because that brings blessing, while chaos and confusion brings destruction and hell on earth which is what the devil comes to bring.

 

[TinMan]

To say your post is dishonest is an understatement. Homosexuality is a behavior.

No it is an orientation and has no connection to any behavior or activity. People are gay or straight or bi independent of any activity. you don't have to engage in any activity or behavior to be gay/straight/bi, you just are. If it were a behavior, then no one could be gay straight or bi if they were a virgin. Obviously, people have orientations before having any sort of relationship. Without an orientation there would be no interest in having any sort of romantic or social or sexual relationships.

They are not a minority group.

Yes they are.

A minority is a culturally, ethnically, religious or racially distinct group that has a shared sense of collective identity and community that coexists with but is subordinate to a more dominant group with socially shared rules about who belongs and who does not.

There are some members of the LGBTQ community that are bi-sexual and so it is a preference for some, but all choose to engage in sexual activity.

People are gay straight or bi independent of any activity. Being bisexual means being emotionally and romantically and physically attracted to the same or opposite genders. No one chooses who they are attracted to, they just are.


When you say it's JUST a behavior that they aren't a minority that it's just a choice what you are saying is that they are not really people. The first step in justifying prejudice is to dehumanize those you choose to not like.

I am not upset they do not hide, but that they are pushing their sinful lifestyle and celebrating it.

your words indicate that you are upset that they aren't hiding, that they aren't afraid and that they reject the idea of self hatred.

I am also unhappy they are trying to force anyone to accept them.

"I want to be very very very clear. Nobody has to accept me. I'm not looking for your acceptance.... You don't have to love me, you don't have to love me, you can think i am the devil incarnate but you better treat me like a decent human being because that is how I treat you even though you don't believe that i have the right to exist." Jackie Goldburg. Los Angelas United School District board president. The women whose video you didn't want to look at.

I said homosexual sex goes against basic biology and you twisted that into me saying it was just because they cannot pro-create.

you said: "Homosexuality is clearly a disorder because it goes against the biological reason for sex which is pro-creation.

I only brought up substance abuse, pedophiles and serial killers to say they cannot help compulsions which is true. God calls their behavior disgusting, and who am I to disagree with God?

If you were to say this about any other group of people it would rightly be called hate.

I am against any anti-discrimination laws. If we are truly free, we have a right to discriminate. I want to ban a book from schools because it is propaganda for children.

That book told the truth, there are families with two mothers and there are families with two fathers. that isn't propaganda, its simple truth.

If I am showing hate, then God hates gays because he said they are in a lifestyle he calls disgusting.

Don't shove your choice to hate off on God. You made that choice, just you.

 

[TinMan]

Yes, abnormal is the term to use when people act abnormally.

People who hate are abnormal.

 

[amigo de christo]

1-minute sustained winds of 150MPH. Gusts up to 192. Can you just imagine?

Ten seconds of pope produced winds of deadly doctrine . with gusts of poop up to fifty five mile an hour .
CAN YOU IMAGINE . What a horrible storm of dung that is to see and hear . That is a storm
that can and will do much more than can a hurricane . for a hurrican can kill the body
but the all inclusive love lie WILL KILLL THE SOUL .

 

[amigo de christo]

People who hate are abnormal.

Yes they are , and its why some of them as full grown men now dress up abnormally and pretend to be women .
and then hATE on anything and everything that wont agree with them

 

[TinMan]

Agreed. Being a Cultural Marxist, he must use deception to advance his agenda.

He is indoctrinated with the feminized notion that feelings dictate reality, that one can "be" homosexual without the behavior. By divorcing the word from the action, he invents a minority group of those who have attributes outside of choice, like skin color or gender (sex).

In Cultural Marxism, there must be an oppressed group and an oppressor group. If one does not exist, they will invent one by denying action, choice is the proper domain upon which to cast moral judgement.

You started a thread, The Tyranny of Politeness where you paint yourself as being part of an oppressed group. I guess that means you are a cultural marxist.

 

[TinMan]

There is no personal prejudice involved.

 

[Instant]

Look Tin Man. While a person may not be able to choose who they are attracted to, they can choose whether to act upon their lusts. A married man can be attracted to a woman other than his wife, but that doesn't make it okay if he commits adultery, and we don't celebrate it if he does. The same thing applies to homosexuals. Nobody makes them sin by engaging in acts of sodomy with someone of the same sex.

 

[Instant]

Here is what God says about the homosexual lifestyle.

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Leviticus 18:22

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Leviticus 20:13

In both of these verses, God calls sex between two people of the same gender an abomination. The Law of Moses was the legal code in Israel, and in that nation, this was a capital crime. The sin is still an abomination, but the death sentence will be carried out at the final judgment, not in the here and now, except in nations where it remains a capital crime.

"For this cause, God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet." Romans 1:26-27

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE, nor abusers of themselves with mankind." 1 Corinthians 6:9

Here are the meaning of key words from the original Hebrew and Greek that let us know how God feels about the homosexual lifestyle.

Abomination (toebah) a disgusting thing, abomination, abominable.

Vile (atimia) dishonor, ignominy, disgrace.

unseemly (aschemosyne) indecency, obscenity, shamefulness.

Those words tell us plainly how God views the homosexual lifestyle. I find it strange that any professing Christian stands in opposition to God in defending the homosexual community. In addition to this, in Romans chapter one, it also says homosexuals were given over to a reprobate mind. As a Christian, I am not going to disagree with God.

Whether a person chooses who or what they are attracted to makes no difference as to whether it is approved of by God if they act upon it. As I mentioned, men and women can be married but attracted to someone besides their spouse. God doesn't overlook their adultery if they act upon it. A man may be attracted to a child, but he has no right to molest that child or commit statutory rape because he is attracted to that person. This can't help it stuff is not going to be acceptable at the judgment.

 

[amigo de christo]

Here is what God says about the homosexual lifestyle.

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Leviticus 18:22

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Leviticus 20:13

In both of these verses, God calls sex between two people of the same gender an abomination. The Law of Moses was the legal code in Israel, and in that nation, this was a capital crime. The sin is still an abomination, but the death sentence will be carried out at the final judgment, not in the here and now, except in nations where it remains a capital crime.

"For this cause, God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet." Romans 1:26-27

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE, nor abusers of themselves with mankind." 1 Corinthians 6:9

Here are the meaning of key words from the original Hebrew and Greek that let us know how God feels about the homosexual lifestyle.

Abomination (toebah) a disgusting thing, abomination, abominable.

Vile (atimia) dishonor, ignominy, disgrace.

unseemly (aschemosyne) indecency, obscenity, shamefulness.

Those words tell us plainly how God views the homosexual lifestyle. I find it strange that any professing Christian stands in opposition to God in defending the homosexual community. In addition to this, in Romans chapter one, it also says homosexuals were given over to a reprobate mind. As a Christian, I am not going to disagree with God.

Whether a person chooses who or what they are attracted to makes no difference as to whether it is approved of by God if they act upon it. As I mentioned, men and women can be married but attracted to someone besides their spouse. God doesn't overlook their adultery if they act upon it. A man may be attracted to a child, but he has no right to molest that child or commit statutory rape because he is attracted to that person. This can't help it stuff is not going to be acceptable at the judgment.

But many might say , oh but we know so much more about homosexuality than they did way back then .
My question and simple reminder to them are this . BUT DO WE KNOW MORE THAN GOD ABOUT IT .
NOPE . and HE said what HE said . GOD Knows FAR MORE than we know about any subject and any thing .
SO , lambs gonna HEED GOD . not an ever changing society with ever changing views .
RATHER lambs are gonna stay glued to the WORD of GOD which changes not and shall endure through all generations .
But , but doctors know so much more today , YEAH BUT THEY DONT KNOW MORE THAN GOD .
But , but physcology is evolving and they know so much more today , YEAH BUT NOT MORE THAN GOD .
Plus all that is carnal wisdom of men anway . The wisdom of man changes , the truth of men changes
from age to age , BUT THE WISDOM OF GOD , THE TRUTH OF GOD STANDS FOREVER .
BIBLE . Most folks will laugh this lamb to scorn as they hold up their degrees and doctorates
and books of science and wisdom and say , CHANGE , EVOLVE with the times .
NOPE . ME IS STAYING GLUED TO THE BIBLE . And if that offends then it offends . BUT BY GRACE
I KNOW . YES I said i KNOW . I KNOW THE BIBLE WAS INSPIRED BY GOD . THEMS HIS HOLY WORDS .
AND THEM WORDS OF TRUTH . Carnal wisdom can and will never lead a man to GOD
for the carnal mind is enmity with GOD . TRUTH will be honored by the lambs
for we desire the death of none and we shall HONOR HE Who saved US .

 

[amigo de christo]

Here is what God says about the homosexual lifestyle.

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Leviticus 18:22

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Leviticus 20:13

In both of these verses, God calls sex between two people of the same gender an abomination. The Law of Moses was the legal code in Israel, and in that nation, this was a capital crime. The sin is still an abomination, but the death sentence will be carried out at the final judgment, not in the here and now, except in nations where it remains a capital crime.

"For this cause, God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet." Romans 1:26-27

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE, nor abusers of themselves with mankind." 1 Corinthians 6:9

Here are the meaning of key words from the original Hebrew and Greek that let us know how God feels about the homosexual lifestyle.

Abomination (toebah) a disgusting thing, abomination, abominable.

Vile (atimia) dishonor, ignominy, disgrace.

unseemly (aschemosyne) indecency, obscenity, shamefulness.

Those words tell us plainly how God views the homosexual lifestyle. I find it strange that any professing Christian stands in opposition to God in defending the homosexual community. In addition to this, in Romans chapter one, it also says homosexuals were given over to a reprobate mind. As a Christian, I am not going to disagree with God.

Whether a person chooses who or what they are attracted to makes no difference as to whether it is approved of by God if they act upon it. As I mentioned, men and women can be married but attracted to someone besides their spouse. God doesn't overlook their adultery if they act upon it. A man may be attracted to a child, but he has no right to molest that child or commit statutory rape because he is attracted to that person. This can't help it stuff is not going to be acceptable at the judgment.

There was a transgender making a speech the other day .
HE , not she , was asked but what made you believe it was okay to become a woman .
The transgender said this . CAUSE GOD DONT MAKE MISTAKES . HE told me i was to become a woman ,
HE PUT those thoughts into my head .
The transgender opened up with a TRUTH . YOU SEE GOD DONT MAKE MISTAKES .
But then failed to see the mistake of their own mind .
FOR YOU SEE , they were right about the fact that GOD DOES NOT MAKE MISTAKES .
SO what makes them believe that GOD was sitting around one day
and he created them male . THEN they are born and some years later GOD suddenly realizes
OOOPS I MADE A MISTAKE they should have been female . EXACTLY JOHN .
THEY cannot see they actually are the ones saying GOD MADE THE MISTAKE . cause they beieve
THEY WERE TO BE ANOTHER SEX . BUT GOD DONT MAKE MISTAKES . THE DEVIL LIED TO THEM
and convinced them they were to be another sex . NOT GOD . NOT GOD . the devil did .

 

[Lizbeth]

But many might say , oh but we know so much more about homosexuality than they did way back then .
My question and simple reminder to them are this . BUT DO WE KNOW MORE THAN GOD ABOUT IT .
NOPE . and HE said what HE said . GOD Knows FAR MORE than we know about any subject and any thing .
SO , lambs gonna HEED GOD . not an ever changing society with ever changing views .
RATHER lambs are gonna stay glued to the WORD of GOD which changes not and shall endure through all generations .
But , but doctors know so much more today , YEAH BUT THEY DONT KNOW MORE THAN GOD .
But , but physcology is evolving and they know so much more today , YEAH BUT NOT MORE THAN GOD .
Plus all that is carnal wisdom of men anway . The wisdom of man changes , the truth of men changes
from age to age , BUT THE WISDOM OF GOD , THE TRUTH OF GOD STANDS FOREVER .
BIBLE . Most folks will laugh this lamb to scorn as they hold up their degrees and doctorates
and books of science and wisdom and say , CHANGE , EVOLVE with the times .
NOPE . ME IS STAYING GLUED TO THE BIBLE . And if that offends then it offends . BUT BY GRACE
I KNOW . YES I said i KNOW . I KNOW THE BIBLE WAS INSPIRED BY GOD . THEMS HIS HOLY WORDS .
AND THEM WORDS OF TRUTH . Carnal wisdom can and will never lead a man to GOD
for the carnal mind is enmity with GOD . TRUTH will be honored by the lambs
for we desire the death of none and we shall HONOR HE Who saved US .

Amen. God's word is our navigational instrument...and He gave it to us for our good. He sure does know better than we do! Imagine what would happen if all the pilots in the world started to navigate their planes in ways that seemeth right to them in the moment instead of by the instruments......what would the result be? Lost and dead.

 

[Lizbeth]

No one chooses who they are attracted to, they just are.

That may be true in a minority of cases due to gestational mix-ups in the womb. However it's apparent that you don't know how sin works (to begin with I'm surmising by your posts that you probably don't know Christ and no-one can understand these things without Him).

Everyone follows the same pattern of when Eve was tempted in the Garden. The serpent introduces a thought usually in childhood, and we buy his lie and fall spiritually speaking. This is done with the heart and then gets buried in our subconsciousness and lost to our memory. Different people are tempted in different ways and unfortunately circumstances of life often do conspire to pressure us in specific directions. Eg, in the case of homosexuality it can be sexual abuse, or rejection by same sex parent, etc, that can predispose a person to lust after their own gender - the devil goes for our area of weakness in how he tempts us.

What homosexuals are essentially asking is for society to be enablers of their problem (and it IS a problem) - instead of being open to the only real help there is for it - the power of Jesus Christ. If we walk in His Spirit and we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh, whatever those lusts happen to be for any individual. But we need to be willing to give up those lusts. Well worth it to trade certain pleasures of this short little life for an eternity of blessedness and joy.

 

[TinMan]

Look Tin Man. While a person may not be able to choose who they are attracted to, they can choose whether to act upon their lusts.

You indicated you were married. Did you get married just so you could act upon your lusts?

 

[TinMan]

That may be true in a minority of cases due to gestational mix-ups in the womb. However it's apparent that you don't know how sin works (to begin with I'm surmising by your posts that you probably don't know Christ and no-one can understand these things without Him).

Everyone follows the same pattern of when Eve was tempted in the Garden. The serpent introduces a thought usually in childhood, and we buy his lie and fall spiritually speaking. This is done with the heart and then gets buried in our subconsciousness and lost to our memory. Different people are tempted in different ways and unfortunately circumstances of life often do conspire to pressure us in specific directions. Eg, in the case of homosexuality it can be sexual abuse, or rejection by same sex parent, etc, that can predispose a person to lust after their own gender - the devil goes for our area of weakness in how he tempts us.

Except it's none of those things

What homosexuals are essentially asking is for society to be enablers of their problem (and it IS a problem) -

No they are asking that the lies stop. tey are asking to be treated the same as everyone else. they are asking for discrimination and violence to stop. They are asking that LGBT children not be bullied or threatened. they are asking ot not have to live in fear for their safety and the safety of their loved ones.

They are asking for the real problem to be addressed. the problem of hate.

 

[BarneyFife]

5Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.

6None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.

7The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.

8The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.

9The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover.

10The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own nakedness.

11The nakedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.

12Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman.

13Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister: for she is thy mother's near kinswoman.

14Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's brother, thou shalt not approach to his wife: she is thine aunt.

15Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.

16Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness.

17Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.

18Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.

19Also thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her nakedness, as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness.

20Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife, to defile thyself with her.

21And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

23Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

24Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:

25And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.

26Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:

27(For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled

28That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.

29For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

30Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God.

This doesn't need much commentary, but I'm going to offer some, anyway.

It's interesting to note that while verses 26, 27, 29, and 30 make it clear that all of the listed things are abominable to the LORD, only verses 17, 22, and 23 make any particular distinction as to the peculiarity of individual list items.

It's almost as if God were looking down into the 21st century as if to say that while a few of these practices are indeed worse than others, hypocritical finger-pointing by those who indulge in the lesser sins may just be all the more guilty before God.

 

[BarneyFife]

It's also interesting to note that many who play fast and loose with the ten commandments are much more careful to guard the moral relevancy of these sexual stipulations in what is generally considered "Old Covenant" law, "ministration of death," blah, blah, blah.