Mature Spiritual Christians No Longer Need the Written Word?

[Mjh29]

There is nothing wrong with that...for a while that is.

But when one is fully grown he should put away childish things. And when we know in full by the perfection of God, that which we once only knew in part...is done away with. 1 Corinthians 13:10 All of which is according to the word and promise of God. But it is not written that we should remain in the milk of His word forever.

If you don't need the Word of God, then why do you quote it?

 

[Harvest 1874]

No. Surely he is referring to Paul who called the basic principles of Christ and salvation "elementary."

I believe prism was saying there are some here on this forum who belittle God's written words by saying things like it is only for the immature or babes.

But if the Apostle Paul is here on this forum as you suggest, I sure would like to speak to him, I have a couple of questions.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

If you don't need the Word of God, then why do you quote it?

Because these people are so deceived they talk out all 6 sides of their mouths.

 

[Helen]

The Holy Spirit will take His Word and confirm it to our understanding.

Agree.

He will not contradict His own Word.

Agree

And He is not adding new revelation about Himself.

Agree, in a way.

Yet He is always revealing a deeper depth of Himself ....

"Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: His going forth is prepared as the morning; and He shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth."

Paul yearned for a deeper revelation of God even later in life -

" That I may know Him, and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being made conformable unto His death "

We move on deeper into God, there is no place where we lay down and rest on our laurels. We stay vigilant and press on deeper into the things of the Lord.

Jesus words are still alive today.. "Come, Follow..."

 

[Preacher4Truth]

There is nothing wrong with that...for a while that is.

But when one is fully grown he should put away childish things. And when we know in full by the perfection of God, that which we once only knew in part...is done away with. 1 Corinthians 13:10 All of which is according to the word and promise of God. But it is not written that we should remain in the milk of His word forever.

The putting away childish things isn't putting away Scripture. I'd also be real careful with your mitigation of the revealed word and thinking that you're "fully grown." With all of your erroneous teachings and thinking you speak on behalf of God, you're so off track spiritually you will never recover unless God wakes you up.

 

[ScottA]

If you don't need the Word of God, then why do you quote it?

If never said I did not need the word of God.

The point is...God Himself has finished revealing His word in tablet form and has moved on to the revelation of all truth by the Spirit...and we should welcome the transition to that same great glory which can only be known of God in spirit.

 

[ScottA]

I believe prism was saying there are some here on this forum who belittle God's written words by saying things like it is only for the immature or babes.

But if the Apostle Paul is here on this forum as you suggest, I sure would like to speak to him, I have a couple of questions.

Yes, and my point was that Paul, by his own words, would disagree with prism's criticism and misunderstanding.

 

[ScottA]

The putting away childish things isn't putting away Scripture. I'd also be real careful with your mitigation of the revealed word and thinking that you're "fully grown." With all of your erroneous teachings and thinking you speak on behalf of God, you're so off track spiritually you will never recover unless God wakes you up.

I agree with Paul. You criticize me for doing so. Terrific. Thanks for showing your spots.

 

[Mjh29]

If never said I did not need the word of God.

The point is...God Himself has finished revealing His word in tablet form and has moved on to the revelation of all truth by the Spirit...and we should welcome the transition to that same great glory which can only be known of God in spirit.

Then why quote the written word?

 

[ScottA]

Then why quote the written word?

Because we are still in "transition."

 

[Mjh29]

Because we are still in "transition."

Meaning?

 

[prism]

Even so should we approach it, so why do you argue so strongly about the errors you believe you see in men? Can a man's heart be right without having all of doctrines established in him according to me or according to you? You believe that what you believe is right... well believe it or not I believe what I believe is right. If we are both sincere and strive as best we even though out beliefs are different which one of us will God reject? Is not the answer in this verse?

"But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." Matt 6:33


My first question was to allow you or to help you to admit to yourself that God is NOT finished with you yet... unless you have erected a blockade against Him. If you are correct in your beliefs you have nothing to fear. If you are wrong in any part, will not your openness to God on every point allow Him to redirect you as needed? This is the point of Luke 14:8-11. Read it carefully and prayerfully.

I believe you quoted someone else. Could you please give me the post # where I said what you quoted me saying?
I pretty much agreed with you in the fact God is not finished with us yet. Why all this cross examination?

 

[prism]

Agree.



Agree



Agree, in a way.

Yet He is always revealing a deeper depth of Himself ....

"Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: His going forth is prepared as the morning; and He shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth."

Paul yearned for a deeper revelation of God even later in life -

" That I may know Him, and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being made conformable unto His death "

We move on deeper into God, there is no place where we lay down and rest on our laurels. We stay vigilant and press on deeper into the things of the Lord.

Jesus words are still alive today.. "Come, Follow..."

I agree with all that. By new revelation, I meant additional Scripture. In that sense I don't believe in new/additional revelation.

 

[ScottA]

Meaning?

Meaning that if we are born again of the Spirit, we and our old ways must decrease, and He must increase.

 

[amadeus]

I believe you quoted someone else. Could you please give me the post # where I said what you quoted me saying?
I pretty much agreed with you in the fact God is not finished with us yet. Why all this cross examination?

Your post #55 and my post #59 and your post #72

Cross examination? Is that how you see it? Perhaps it is only discussion and/or an effort to understand and/or to avoid any misunderstanding. If we are both led by God will He not lead each of us correctly? People are not all in the same level of their walk with God and people are not all intended to be precisely the same part of the Body of Christ.

 

[Mjh29]

Meaning that if we are born again of the Spirit, we and our old ways must decrease, and He must increase.

And how does He increase if His own Word decreases?

 

[tzcho2]

It has nothing to do with "different levels of walks" .
Gnosticism and mysticism doesn't mix with Biblical Christianity. The ones that embrace it are loosey-goosey with scriptures , they aren't anchored in sound doctrine, neglect to rightly divide the word, and they aren't being led by the God of the Bible as HE does not contradict His Word.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

It has nothing to do with "different levels of walks" .
Gnosticism and mysticism doesn't mix with Biblical Christianity. The ones that embrace it are loosey-goosey with scriptures , they aren't anchored in sound doctrine, neglect to rightly divide the word, and they aren't being led by the God of the Bible as HE does not contradict His Word.

Since they don't like to be grounded in the word, don't think it is sufficient, they drift off into myths and fables as a form of judgment and go well beyond what is written. Paul warned of this in 2 Corinthians 4:6, and we have these types around yet today in this sense: Those whom Pau l dealt with, who did these things in the church, went beyond the written word. And guess what? They considered themselves "super apostles" above and beyond others.

Isn't that ironic? These same people on this very forum tout themselves as such.

One need not look far into Pauls epistle to see the indictment he places on them from the Holy Spirit.

They are to be rejected, they are false ministers.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Because these people are so deceived they talk out all 6 sides of their mouths.

So, if three of them speak out of 6 sides of their mouths.....

 

[SovereignGrace]

The putting away childish things isn't putting away Scripture. I'd also be real careful with your mitigation of the revealed word and thinking that you're "fully grown." With all of your erroneous teachings and thinking you speak on behalf of God, you're so off track spiritually you will never recover unless God wakes you up.

Seems like many get strangled on milk. No wonder the meat gives them fits...