Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”

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for the last time, Father and son are titles, not persons.

can we get some intelligence in here.

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If this is true, the Bible is nonsense, because it has god talking to himself sending himself Places, giving himself power, speaking through himself, etc etc.

yeah we need some intelligence. But it’s not the people you think, look in the mirror my friend,
 

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Jesus is the eternal Father, many believe that they came spilling out of the womb receiving the breath of life.. I’m a witness to the falsehood of this. He is witnessed breathing on them in the New Testament signing what will take place at Pentecost, men receiving the breath of life which given of Him, born of God. He breathes on them saying receive the Holy Ghost signifies He is the way the truth and the life.
 

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well is not the Spirit in us? and not us in him, (born again and placed in his body), by believing, and obeying his Command?

see that unity of two ro more person is out. meaning it's a lie. now if you cannot see that, then stay in Darkness, as Revelation 22:11 suggest.


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You need to see this....

11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are....

21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

23 I in them, and thou in me, ...


..God inside Christ...inside us.

This is the true, first century oneness.

Now you know what Jesus said when he said "I and my Father are one".

Not one being(person), but God and a man, unified by the Holy Ghost.
 

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Trinity, my friend. Answers all these questions. But don't expect to really fathom this, no one can, He is infininately transcendent.

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GINOLJC, to all
Marks, Marks, Marks, just STOP for a second, take a breather, and just think. the Bible, God's Own Words, God himself is telling you that there is no trinity. did you listen to the scriptures? once again, Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour."

Isaiah 44:6 "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." (Marks, Marks, who is the Saviour of the World? that's right the Lord Jesus. and God said there is no Saviour beside him, and he's the First and the Last who is JESUS). you cannot deny that connection.

Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any." (Marks, if he... God, don't know any one else, why do you still believe that there is a second and third person?

Isaiah 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:"

Isaiah 45:21 "Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me."
(see this is letting you know that there is no saviour beside him, that just got the unitarians, as well as all those unbelieving Jews.

Hosea 13:4 "Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me."
NOW, Titus 2:10 "Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things." WHO IS THAT? Titus 2:13 "Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;" QUESTION, "Who is Appearing?" ANSWER, 1 Corinthians 1:7 "So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:" IF HE'S COMING, IS HE "APPEARING? LETS CHECK THE RECORD, Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation." there is our answer to Titus 2:13. even Ray Charles can see that.

and once again the definition of "BESIDE". 1. at the side of; next to. 2. in addition to; apart from.

Marks, Marks, Marks, notice definition #2. in addition to. God said there is no one in addition to him... meaning that there is no second, or third person. My God how hard is that to understand? clearly the bible is telling you, there is no TRINITY, nor any UNITY as in a TRIUNE of NOTHING, or anyone. nota, zilch, 0, no one else.

see, we been taught wrong. the devil and his demon for centries, those old decievers ... false teachers, have lie to us over and over untill we have become numb, and DUMB to the truth. the Lord Jesus is correct in saying, Isaiah 29:13 "Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:" and again he said it in the NT, Matthew 15:8 "This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me."

now Marks, I challenge your intelligence, not you, but your intelligence. tell us truthfuly, in all the above scriptures, do the term "beside" where used, indicate no other person but one in the Godhead. be truthful with yourself, and God. you don't have to answer out in a post, just keep it to yourself.

that decision I leave wih you.

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You need to see this....

11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are....

21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

23 I in them, and thou in me, ...


..God inside Christ...inside us.

This is the true, first century oneness.

Now you know what Jesus said when he said "I and my Father are one".

Not one being(person), but God and a man, unified by the Holy Ghost.
one in actions, and in WORKS! :eek: YIKES!

I just can't believe people can be that dense..........

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one in actions, and in WORKS! :eek: YIKES!

I just can't believe people can be that dense..........

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It doesn't say that. You made that up.

It says this....

23 I in them, and thou in me, ...

etc.
 

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If this is true, the Bible is nonsense, because it has god talking to himself sending himself Places, giving himself power, speaking through himself, etc etc.

yeah we need some intelligence. But it’s not the people you think, look in the mirror my friend,
first thanks for the reply, second, I have looked into the mirrow of truth.

is the "Word" or term "Father" a person yes or no? .... (smile).

your answer please.

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It doesn't say that. You made that up.

It says this....

23 I in them, and thou in me, ...

etc.
listen, John 14:12 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

was that made up?

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the natives are restless this morning... boy that torpedo word "beside" put a hole in the bow of the old USS triune ... didn't it...

just like another .. "UNSINKABLE", Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." anther one bit the dust.


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Now that we are on the question of "ONE", as in Oneness, Jesus is the Holy Spirit who is the ordinal FIRST, title holder "LORD", and "Father". and it is JESUS who is the ordinal LAST, title holder "Lord", and "Son", in a diversified state, in a. Natural flesh, and b. now in glorified flesh... :eek: YIKES!, get out of here. yes, the only person in the Godhead is JESUS who is the Holy Spirit. (smile).

scripture, Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

well I don't want anyone rejected, hence my mission. what is one to do? answer... "REPENT" in the NEWNESS OF SPIRIT. BINGO.

Romans 12:2 "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."

Ephesians 4:23 "And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;"Ephesians 4:24 "And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness."

step #1. in renewing of ones mind. God's first principle, see Hebrews Hebrews 5:12-14.

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listen, John 14:12 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

was that made up?

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The works are because of the God inside Christ...inside us doctrine.

This is an attribute of the doctrine of 1st century oneness teaching of Christ.
 

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The works are because of the God inside Christ...inside us doctrine.

This is an attribute of the doctrine of 1st century oneness teaching of Christ.
first thanks for the reply, second, Hold it, is not the Spirit of Christ in us? that's why he went to the Father, meaning his none G2758 κενόω kenoo self/Spirit. for... Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."

did you understand that Truther? "but in the Spirit", meaning you act like God in Words and DEEDS... better known as "WORKS". see, you have no clue of what it means by being IN, IN, IN, the Spirit do you? but you will find out... :rolleyes: YIKES!.

so this is no first century oneness teaching of Christ. this is "DIVERSIFIED ONENESS" teaching of Christ. this was taught of GOD to his apostles, and his apostles taught their disciples, and many taught others, but it was God in them who taught. this is nothing new in doctrine, for false teachers taught their disciples also. but, "diversified oneness", it's new to you, because you have not been taught the TRUTH before.

remember, Mark 16:17b "they shall speak with new tongues;" see this truth of God is new to you because it's the first time you're hearing the TRUTH. for a new tongue, one must have a NEW MIND that is REWNED "IN" the Spirit..... :D

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first thanks for the reply, second, Hold it, is not the Spirit of Christ in us? that's why he went to the Father, meaning his none G2758 κενόω kenoo self/Spirit. for... Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."

did you understand that Truther? "but in the Spirit", meaning you act like God in Words and DEEDS... better known as "WORKS". see, you have no clue of what it means by being IN, IN, IN, the Spirit do you? but you will find out... :rolleyes: YIKES!.

so this is no first century oneness teaching of Christ. this is "DIVERSIFIED ONENESS" teaching of Christ. this was taught of GOD to his apostles, and his apostles taught their disciples, and many taught others, but it was God in them who taught. this is nothing new in doctrine, for false teachers taught their disciples also. but, "diversified oneness", it's new to you, because you have not been taught the TRUTH before.

remember, Mark 16:17b "they shall speak with new tongues;" see this truth of God is new to you because it's the first time you're hearing the TRUTH. for a new tongue, one must have a NEW MIND that is REWNED "IN" the Spirit..... :D

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No gift is available without God inside Christ inside us.
 

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No gift is available without God inside Christ inside us.
first thanks for the reply, second, JESUS is the Gift, who is God, you didn't know that? see Joel 2:28 & 29, and notice the small case "s" in Spirit there.... :D

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Marks, Marks, Marks,
Like I said, don't expect that this fits under your microscope.

Truly I don't understand why you don't see this. The Father spoke to the Son as the Spirit was descending. Slice and dice this any way you like, that's what is revealed to us.

There is only One God, YHWH, and YHWH came to us in Jesus. Are we good?

Much love!