In the beginning was the word and the word WAS GOD and the word was WITH GOD
so is the word a person ? yes
Is the word God? yes
is the word alone? No he was with God
how can god be with god if they are the same person, was John confused?
first thanks for the reply, second, as the Lord Jesus will do, so I, let me answer you with a question, but also your answer.
is the Lord Jesus the "FIRST and the LAST? yes, (see revelation). now listen, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning?
I the LORD,
the first, and
with the last;
I am he."
here in this verse we have the "First" is
WITH the "Last" correct, just as the "Word" was
WITH God, in John 1:1, correct... and you asked, "
how can god be with god if they are the same person" answer YES he can, because he's the SAME person, only "shared" in flesh, lets see it.
Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I
am the first,
I also am the last."
see that? the First is "
ALSO"... the Last, and Jesus is the First and the Last. now I ask you is Jesus one Person? yes, correct, one person. and he's the First that is "
with the last but he's "Also" the First "who" the last.
you asked, "
was John confused?" no, what John was expressing is that God who is a Spirit, see John 4:24a is a Diversity/equal share of hinself in flesh. what was not seen is now made visible. as Phil 2:6 states, the EQUAL SHARE of God in Flesh. and the Greek word G243 allos make this very clear, Allos expresses
a numerical difference and denotes
another of the same sort.
ok, what's a "numerical difference?" the Father, or the First, as in Isaiah 41:4 the PERSON of God. and the Son, or the Last, as in Isaiah 48:12, the Person of God. so are we saying that it is TWO PERSON, Father, and Son? no of course not....WHY, because Allos also states, "the ANOTHER" of the SAME "SORT". meaning Another of the Same
one Person. two of the SAME one PERSON. whhat do that means another? answer, two entities of the same one person... the "EQUAL SHARE" of one's ownself. just as Phil 2:6 states.
see this is what the bible calls "Diversity", or as I teach "diversified Oneness". listen and understand, this is the Lord Jesus speaking who is the First and the Last, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
I am the root and
the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
the Root is symbolic for
First, and Offspring is symbolic for
Last as in Isaiah First and Last. but what the word "Offspring" do is reveal to us the term I used in the Doctrine of the Godhead, "Diversity". lets see it. offspring is the Greek word,
G1085 γένος genos (ǰe'-nos) n.
kin.
{abstract or concrete, literal or figurative, individual or collective}
[from G1096]
KJV: born, country(-man),
diversity, generation, kind(-red), nation, offspring, stock
Root(s): G1096
see how the KJV can translate the word... "
diversity". also notice how the word is defined...
Kin, as in
KINsman Redeemer. this is why the Lord Jesus the Christ, the Last Adam, is in flesh, as, as, as a man, which is called an "Offspring" of David, because of his birthright from Mary's womb who is a desendant of king David. and legal right from Joseph, Mary's husband, another desendant of David.
understand, in human flesh, God "shared" his Spirit equally in this body of his, this is why he is called the "ANOTHER" which G243 allos express clearly. an offspring is "Another" of it parent. Just as the definition of "ADAM" it means "ANOTHER", lets see it,
H120 אָדָם 'adam (aw-dawm') n-m.
ruddy i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.).
[from H119]
KJV: X
another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person.
there it is. understand the Lord Jesus in flesh is another of God HIMSELF, "shared" equally in flesh.. and was G2758 κενόω kenoo as a man in it. but when Glorified with his "OWN" Spirit, he is the "ANOTHER" comforter, in Spirit. John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you
another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" (BINGO, here Another is G243 allos)
John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,
because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him;
for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."
John 14:18 "
I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." (BINGO)
understand, Jesus was the Comforter in flesh when he came at John 1:1, and John was not confused, for John testified to what was not seen at Genesis 1:1 is now seen at John 1:1..... YES, God in Flesh, listen.
1 John 1:1 "That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;"
1 John 1:2 "(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
"
1 John 1:3 "That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ."
1 John 1:4 "And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full."
John was not at Genesis 1:1 to see, nor touch that which was at the beginning, but he witness what which was at Genessis 1:1 and now what is in flesh, yes that he could testify to.
so no, John told us God who was at Genesis 1:1 is now with us at John 1:1, shared in fhesh and bone.... who is God the "equal Share" of his ownself, as Phil 2:6 clearly states.
if you have any question, just ask.
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