I figured out the beast and false prophet

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The beast is a sacrificed animal that dies to make one alive. And the false prophet is lucifer proclaiming himself as God. And that relates to killing animals in medical testing to provide medicines and vaccines. But in order for this to work it has to be anti-God. What do you think?

Lucifer:
Isaiah 14:12-15

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12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
 

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The beast is a sacrificed animal that dies to make one alive. And the false prophet is lucifer proclaiming himself as God. And that relates to killing animals in medical testing to provide medicines and vaccines. But in order for this to work it has to be anti-God. What do you think?

Lucifer:
Isaiah 14:12-15

King James Version


12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.


The 'beast' is just a symbol God's Word uses for the concept of rebellion against God. It involves the 'beast nature' spoken of in Jude and by Apostle Peter. It was used as a label for evil nations and kings controlled by Satan, such as Babylon and the king of Babylon Nebuchadnezzar.

In Rev.13, the idea of the 'beast' is used to point to both a beast kingdom, and a beast king, both for the end of this world.

The beast that suffers the 'deadly wound' in Rev.13 is about the beast kingdom that has ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns. One of its seven heads suffers the deadly wound.

Per Rev.17, the seven heads represent seven mountains, or regions upon the earth. The 'deadly wound' is shown to have been healed, and does not say just when the wound happened, but... because a previous beast kingdom in Rev.12:3-4 is mentioned in the 12th chapter, and at a time when the dragon (Satan) drew a third of the angels (stars) to earth with him, that kind of points to the time when the deadly wound first happened, i.e., in the old world when Satan first rebelled against God in coveting His throne. God ended Satan's rebellion back then, and ended that old world, thus the 'deadly wound'.

In the old world when Satan rebelled in coveting God's throne, before he did that he followed and served God at His Altar. This is shown via parable in Ezekiel 28 using the flesh king and prince of Tyrus as types.

That Satan had a previous beast kingdom, like Revelation 12:3-4 reveals, and the latter day beast kingdom of Revelation points to Jerusalem on earth, then where do you think Satan's original beast kingdom of Rev.12 was located? Most likely to the spot of Jerusalem where God said He has chosen to dwell forever.

The idea of the Rev.13 beast kingdom for the latter days, is about Satan's final attempt to play God on earth. That Rev.13 beast system is the healing of the 'deadly wound' (that happened back in the old world with Satan's original beast kingdom of Rev.12).
 
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The beast is a sacrificed animal that dies to make one alive. And the false prophet is lucifer proclaiming himself as God. And that relates to killing animals in medical testing to provide medicines and vaccines. But in order for this to work it has to be anti-God. What do you think?

Lucifer:
Isaiah 14:12-15

King James Version


12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

It could be. I thought the beast might be Baal, a demon of Satan who they worship.

Hows Bill Gates filling for divorce now... Totally unexpected. Not sure what to think about it yet.
Im suspicious as usual... U have to be
 
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It could be. I thought the beast might be Baal, a demon of Satan who they worship.

Hows Bill Gates filling for divorce now... Totally unexpected. Not sure what to think about it yet.
Im suspicious as usual... U have to be

Never the less I think a false prophet is just that, proclaiming things that really don't come true. If it comes true then it is of God I think: Deuteronomy 18:22 "when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him."
 
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Never the less I think a false prophet is just that, proclaiming things that really don't come true. If it comes true then it is of God I think: Deuteronomy 18:22 "when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him."

Good morning Devin or afternoon... :D

"Judge them by their fruits"

Many people cite the sermon on the mount and say we shouldn't judge other's. But I think Jesus is telling us not to be hypocrits.

Later on he tells us to beware of false prophets and judge them by their fruits
 
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Good morning Devin or afternoon... :D

"Judge them by their fruits"

Many people cite the sermon on the mount and say we shouldn't judge other's. But I think Jesus is telling us not to be hypocrits.

Later on he tells us to beware of false prophets and judge them by their fruits
What if a prophet predicts plagues, curses or death? Like Moses or the two witnesses in Rev? Fruit may appear evil to some. So what fruits are you thinking of? Just curious :)
 

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Hello Devin Wintch,

Have heard that the beast relates to Nero Cesar,

Revelation 13:18 "This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666."

This writing from John, is telling the reader of the (7 churches) to Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the

number of a man, that number is 666. It calls for wisdom to understand.

It is possible though that I am wrong but thought would throw this out there if you have not seen it or may have looked at it in a while.
 
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Hello Devin Wintch,

Have heard that the beast relates to Nero Cesar,

Revelation 13:18 "This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666."

This writing from John, is telling the reader of the (7 churches) to Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the

number of a man, that number is 666. It calls for wisdom to understand.

It is possible though that I am wrong but thought would throw this out there if you have not seen it or may have looked at it in a while.
I kinda think Babylon that burned with ships watching at sea was Pompeii, which was a Roman city that was destroyed from a volcano. So sure, the beast probably was back then.
 
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I kinda think Babylon that burned with ships watching at sea was Pompeii, which was a Roman city that was destroyed from a volcano. So sure, the beast probably was back then.

Thank you for sharing, have you ever seen this 8 minute video before?


Just got done watching in now, pretty interesting to watch about the Pompeii, Volcano? It is just an animation and think it does a fair justice possibly to the situations though do not know exactly and may be wrong.
 
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Thank you for sharing, have you ever seen this 8 minute video before?


Just got done watching in now, pretty interesting to watch about the Pompeii, Volcano? It is just an animation and think it does a fair justice possibly to the situations though do not know exactly and may be wrong.
I watched a documentary on it, let me check out the video, cool.
 

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Thank you for sharing, have you ever seen this 8 minute video before?


Just got done watching in now, pretty interesting to watch about the Pompeii, Volcano? It is just an animation and think it does a fair justice possibly to the situations though do not know exactly and may be wrong.
I'm not totally sure, it's probably accurate and might have been different than Mt St Hellenes which erupted near me in 1980 which was more like an atomic bomb that rained inches of ash, so I think Pompeii would have been much more devastating:
 
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The 'beast' is just a symbol God's Word uses for the concept of rebellion against God. It involves the 'beast nature' spoken of in Jude and by Apostle Peter. It was used as a label for evil nations and kings controlled by Satan, such as Babylon and the king of Babylon Nebuchadnezzar.

In Rev.13, the idea of the 'beast' is used to point to both a beast kingdom, and a beast king, both for the end of this world.

The beast that suffers the 'deadly wound' in Rev.13 is about the beast kingdom that has ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns. One of its seven heads suffers the deadly wound.

Per Rev.17, the seven heads represent seven mountains, or regions upon the earth. The 'deadly wound' is shown to have been healed, and does not say just when the wound happened, but... because a previous beast kingdom in Rev.12:3-4 is mentioned in the 12th chapter, and at a time when the dragon (Satan) drew a third of the angels (stars) to earth with him, that kind of points to the time when the deadly wound first happened, i.e., in the old world when Satan first rebelled against God in coveting His throne. God ended Satan's rebellion back then, and ended that old world, thus the 'deadly wound'.

In the old world when Satan rebelled in coveting God's throne, before he did that he followed and served God at His Altar. This is shown via parable in Ezekiel 28 using the flesh king and prince of Tyrus as types.

That Satan had a previous beast kingdom, like Revelation 12:3-4 reveals, and the latter day beast kingdom of Revelation points to Jerusalem on earth, then where do you think Satan's original beast kingdom of Rev.12 was located? Most likely to the spot of Jerusalem where God said He has chosen to dwell forever.

The idea of the Rev.13 beast kingdom for the latter days, is about Satan's final attempt to play God on earth. That Rev.13 beast system is the healing of the 'deadly wound' (that happened back in the old world with Satan's original beast kingdom of Rev.12).
Always compare scripture with scripture, especially when dealing with the book of the revelation (which carrys a serious curse).
12 “And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write,
‘These things says He who has the sharp two-edged sword: 13 “I know your works, and where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is. And you hold fast to My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days in which Antipas was My faithful martyr, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.
Revelation 2:12-13
 

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A very real possibility:

Antichrist = Emmanuel Macron
False Prophet = Pope Francis
Gog = Vladimir Putin
I cant disagree the false prophet could likely be a Pope

The (Little Horn) or Antichrist Of Daniel Will Be A Jew/Hebrew, His Ancestry Worshipped The True Hebrew (God Of His Fathers)

Daniel 11:37KJV

37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Examples:

2 Kings 21:22KJV

22 And he forsook the Lord God of his fathers, and walked not in the way of the Lord.

2 Chronicles 28:25KJV
25 And in every several city of Judah he made high places to burn incense unto other gods, and provoked to anger the Lord God of his fathers.
 

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Always compare scripture with scripture, especially when dealing with the book of the revelation (which carrys a serious curse).
12 “And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write,
‘These things says He who has the sharp two-edged sword: 13 “I know your works, and where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is. And you hold fast to My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days in which Antipas was My faithful martyr, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.
Revelation 2:12-13

Same applies to you brother. The explanations of the 'beast' and Satan's attempts throughout history to usurp God's throne has nothing to do with that idea of Satan's throne being literally in Pergamos. You've obviously missed our Lord Jesus using an expression there about the evil surrounding the saints at Pergamos using that "where Satan's throne is". I mean really, Satan is a heavenly cherub, he is not sitting upon a throne on the earth at Pergamos. His kingdom is the pit of hell, or didn't you understand about him as the angel king over the bottomless pit in Revelation 9? So throw out your 'don't add or take away' from Scripture somewhere else, after... you've done more Bible study for yourself.
 

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Same applies to you brother. The explanations of the 'beast' and Satan's attempts throughout history to usurp God's throne has nothing to do with that idea of Satan's throne being literally in Pergamos. You've obviously missed our Lord Jesus using an expression there about the evil surrounding the saints at Pergamos using that "where Satan's throne is". I mean really, Satan is a heavenly cherub, he is not sitting upon a throne on the earth at Pergamos. His kingdom is the pit of hell, or didn't you understand about him as the angel king over the bottomless pit in Revelation 9? So throw out your 'don't add or take away' from Scripture somewhere else, after... you've done more Bible study for yourself.
Uh, there is nothing in scripture that equates Abbadon, the destroyer, specifically with Satan. That's an assumption we just tend to make, so take your own advice.
 

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Uh, there is nothing in scripture that equates Abbadon, the destroyer, specifically with Satan. That's an assumption we just tend to make, so take your own advice.

If you don't understand that Revelation 9:11 verse is specifically about Satan himself, then you're most likely going backwards in understanding God's Word...

Rev 9:11
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

KJV

That locust army represents Satan's servants. He is their king, and Satan is 'the' angel of the bottomless pit. That is his home rule.
 

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If you don't understand that Revelation 9:11 verse is specifically about Satan himself, then you're most likely going backwards in understanding God's Word...

Rev 9:11
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

KJV

That locust army represents Satan's servants. He is their king, and Satan is 'the' angel of the bottomless pit. That is his home rule.
Interesting and novel interpretation, but then if Satan is the destroyer, and the ruler of the bottomless pit, who was Jesus speaking of when referencing the judgment of the ruler of this world? Is our world the bottomless pit? Or who was Paul referring to as "the prince of the power of the air?"
It's true that the word Satan simply means adversary and could just as easily be applied to any human in our natural state, prior to receiving new life in Him, but Satan is not omnipresent. He can't be in all places at one time. He's not like God, and doesn't possess those attributes defined by godhood. Heaven has a hierarchy. Hell has a hierarchy.
The thing that most people seem to miss is that Satan is already defeated and was judged nearly 2000 years ago. He's full of wrath because His time is short. What does that mean exactly? I've never been a convict on death row so I couldn't tell you how Satan feels, but scripture does. Jesus has all authority in heaven and on Earth. The demons recognized that He could cast them into the pit with a word, but it wasn't the appointed time of judgment. Why wait? Can faith be perfected without trial and temptation? Did God give Satan permission to test Job's faith? Did Job see God at the height of his own temptations and trials and repent of his own understanding and self righteousness?
God is not the "author" of evil, but He is sovereign over His creation and nothing that happens is hidden from Him, or occurs without His permission. He makes all things, not some things, work to the good of those that love Him and are called according to His purposes. He can only do that by being in control of even His enemies. God steers the heart or He let's it choose it's own way, but He always knows the destination and His grace is according to His election.
People give Satan way too much credit. He's really no more than God's junkyard dog and he's fenced in, trapped in what was once his domain, but now is just a holding area, waiting on the final punishments that accompany condemnation.
2 And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! Revelation 18:2
This proclamation is a future event, but the fall is here, at the door, as is the eternal gospel, the offer of life to all.
14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.

16 “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.

It's very important to our understanding to get this point from the text and this text doesn't stand alone but reiterates what was written by the prophets. There is a city of God where the unclean may not enter, and in it is found the tree of life, but the waters of life are a stream that flows out of the city from that tree and becomes a river that all may drink from and the leaves of that tree are for the healing of the nations. These things are not far off, but near, at the door.
 
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