Here is what it all comes down to—- and you’d better get it right!

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It’s really small potatoes. Big potatoes would be a den of lions or a fiery oven. But if God can get you to remain trusting in small things, I think He can get you to where you will remain trusting in big things.
 
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You seem to have forgotten how you talk about God severely chastising the person who does not submit to him:

"Our fathers disciplined us for a short time as they thought best, but God disciplines us for our good, so that we may share in His holiness. " Hebrews 12:10
Stubborn believers will in fact go "under the lash". How did you forget this? You've said it many times. And as we can see in the passage it's so we will be what you say happens "naturally" and "will take care of itself", which obviously doesn't always happen naturally, and so God's lash is necessary. I wish my experience with sin was the way you say it is. It's hardly been that. I've spent a lot of time just sitting before God in defeat, relying on Him. And one thing I will not let people do is shame me for God being successful in changing me.



I am talking about a GENUINE LOVE for others —- from the NEW heart—- that is the basis of how we treat others....not treating others good because we “ have” to , lest God “ GET” us.....

You bad mouth me for talking about GOD doing the changing naturally and then you say “GOD was successful in CHANGING ME...” you contradict yourself, methinks....lol.....

I actually think it’s a two-way thing.....after all the Holy Spirit is our “Helper” , not our “ Doer” so it must be something we do hand in hand.....
 
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But that's terribly inconsiderate of you to not read my posts and then make unfair and cruel comments based on lack of information and attention. I mean, that's just a flat out sin. Doesn't Christianity mean more to you than just having correct doctrine? Isn't the more important thing that you not sin against people? Yes, we all sin, don't even bother going there. The point is, you have your priorities messed up. And I suspect it's because you do not know what the priorities are. You talk about being a Christian for 50 years or whatever and yet you still don't seem to know what this is all about.



“ unfair and cruel?” This reminds me of President Truman.....May I paraphrase ? “I am not being cruel or unfair.....I tell you the Truth Of The Grace you hate , and you just “ Think” it’s “ cruel and unfair”..... that’s the way it should be, I suppose....
 

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But that's terribly inconsiderate of you to not read my posts and then make unfair and cruel comments based on lack of information and attention. I mean, that's just a flat out sin. Doesn't Christianity mean more to you than just having correct doctrine? Isn't the more important thing that you not sin against people? Yes, we all sin, don't even bother going there. The point is, you have your priorities messed up. And I suspect it's because you do not know what the priorities are. You talk about being a Christian for 50 years or whatever and yet you still don't seem to know what this is all about.

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But that's terribly inconsiderate of you to not read my posts and then make unfair and cruel comments based on lack of information and attention. I mean, that's just a flat out sin. Doesn't Christianity mean more to you than just having correct doctrine? Isn't the more important thing that you not sin against people? Yes, we all sin, don't even bother going there. The point is, you have your priorities messed up. And I suspect it's because you do not know what the priorities are. You talk about being a Christian for 50 years or whatever and yet you still don't seem to know what this is all about.


The #1 Priority Of Christianity is Love.....I love you enough to try to get you to see how you teach a False Gospel ....Your very soul could be at stake......it all depends in what “ Fallen From Grace “ means because that is the state that you are in because you ADD to Paul’s Gospel Of Pure Grace....based mainly on your confused “ take” on Hebrews 10..... I love Newbies Enough to constantly try to share with them the great Teachings I have received about How it really *IS* —-Nothing But The Blood.....As I have said before....I sure would HATE to find myself on the opposing side of “ THAT” all- important Truth in regard to Salvation....
 
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"love your enemies, do good to them" Luke 6:35

At least you don't deny not treating me nicely. I give you credit for that.




I think you are a GREAT GUY! I LIKE YOU! ....it’s your DOCTRINE that I hate....it is my opinion that you get 90% of the stuff right....much more than most people.....it’s that 10% that has me scared....you are a former Methodist like I was.....Methodists have WAY too much Catholicism in them....I think you still have some of their Legalistic Thinking in your bone marrow...maybe not that much, but “a little Leaven Leavenith the whole batch” ......I Live to squash Leaven—-wherever it is found and whoever espouses it.... knowingly or unknowingly.....you should KNOW that you ADD to the Gospel Of Grace by now.....you are proud to be “Self Taught”..... you have done a good job for the most part....don’t let your pride plug your ears to vital areas that you need to learn.....Believe it or not, there ARE people out there , sent by God, that are smarter than you with more Biblical insight—- those guys that you, in your stubbornness and by this point,your Willful ignorance like to mock....
 

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"love your enemies, do good to them" Luke 6:35

At least you don't deny not treating me nicely. I give you credit for that.


“ give all you have to the poor”

“If your brother asks for your cloak , give
him your tunic also.....”. I want your car.....give me your house too....

You really want to go down this road? Maybe you have
mastered all of the impossible demands of the Sermon in the Mount.....I haven’t ......ain't Grace great?....maybe you don’t need it.....I do.
 

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Grace is changing me. It's not changing you, apparently, and it makes you point your finger at me and call me a legalist. What can I say, BB.....


Grace ain’t changing me? lol.......I’d be drunk right now , chasing skirts if God has not changed me....those are just TWO of the many changes he has performed in my life.....you have NO IDEA the Sinner That I was.....what can you say? Nothing .You don’t know what you are talking about.....( and you ARE a Legalist)...... explain Hebrews 10 to us .....there will be the truth of my charge...
 

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How blessed we are... how very BLESSED to have a GOOD SHEPHERD who will NOT lose ONE... no.. not one of His own.
I so love the analogy of sheep and shepherd... It is the one that I can relate to the most and the best... thus my avatar.

The job of the SHEPHERD is to protect the sheep... to ensure that they are safe and in good health.
The job of the sheep is to HEAR their MASTER'S voice... come when called... and munch on clover... How PRECIOUS!!!


Your Avator should be a walrus or a Yak or whatever it is you guys got up there that can stand the cold and eat Tundra.....lol.......sorry....( she’s from the Great White North , guys)
 

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I am talking about a GENUINE LOVE for others —- from the NEW heart—- that is the basis of how we treat others....not treating others good because we “ have” to , lest God “ GET” us.....

You bad mouth me for talking about GOD doing the changing naturally and then you say “GOD was successful in CHANGING ME...” you contradict yourself, methinks....lol.....

I actually think it’s a two-way thing.....after all the Holy Spirit is our “Helper” , not our “ Doer” so it must be something we do hand in hand.....
Don't look now, but you're becoming a legalist. :)
 

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And then there are those that don't come back. Super-duper grace won't save them.


NOBODY knows what takes place in a man’s heart.....even if he is seconds from Death.....I think God will Restore a man to Belief sometime before he dies.....I can’t prove that....to me it is something that MUST happen in order for God to keep His Word. and that WORD is far more valuable than the Salvation Of a billion souls! “ FOREVER, Lord, Thy Word is settled in Heaven”....
 
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It is possible for believers to fall away from grace and be lost. Some simply do not respond to correction and prefer to live in sin in unbelief.

Please get your Terminology straight....” Falling from Grace” has a very specific meaning....it ain’t Sinning or entering unbelief.....it’s Adding works to Paul’s Gospel Of Grace .....
 

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You have blessed me @Tong... I have been wooed by Father... He has been ever so diligent and long suffering in bringing me unto Himself.

I have been one who has been like a wounded animal... and most FEARFUL and MISTRUSTING of EVERYONE...due to severe trauma.... yet God.. in His infinite GRACE has continued to call and beckon me... until such a time as I was able to TRUST HIM. There are no words to explain my conversion experience... It has been a long and slow journey for this little old soul.... but OH.... the DEPTH of my LOVE and DEVOTION to Him is because HE first LOVED me.

So many Christians think it is all about them.... I cannot wrap my brain around anyone "thinking" that they are good and deserving of anything.
Pride seems to have blinded the eyes of many.

I have nothing to bring as an offering to Christ.... yet I come boldly because HE has invited me... and I place down my HEART at the altar.

Being a Christian is not about duty... It is about relationship... and surrendering our hearts completely to the ONE who is WORTHY.

He does not require our sacrifice... HE requires our hearts.

It grieves me deeply when I read words of accusation against the SHEEP who are are resting and trusting... and BELIEVING.

It's all in the PRECIOUS BLOOD of CHRIST.




At the risk of sounding like a broken record .....Brilliant, as always.....
 

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Each of us have experienced conversion differently. But the bottom line is, blessed are those whom the Father have given to the Son to save unto eternal life, an everlasting life with our loving God, our creator.


Well, as for me, I recall the days when I do had such a thinking. Thank God for granting me repentance on that one.

Tong
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If there is a “ Sin” that every man must Repent of before he can be Saved, it is the Sin Of “ Self- Righteousness” .....Thinking you are “ good enough” to deserve Heaven..
 
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