Once saved, always saved is a myth.

Eternally Grateful said:

Ah,, Like you?

lol.. So we are hypocrites because of our faith in the power of God.

ok.. whatever.. Again, You just keep proving me right every time you speak

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i noticed something . and tis something very few now notice .
You spoke of POWER OF GOD .
DO you realize what that means . THE GOSPEL IS THE POWER OF GOD .
oh yes , folks need to actually be reading them some bible .
FOR IT IS THE POWER OF GOD unto salvation unto all who do believe .
And now another WORD .
THEY will have a form of godliness YET DENY THE POWER THEREOF .
THIS IS THE INCLUSIVE DELUSION
they often speak of loving neighbor , doing good and YET DENY THE POWER OF GOD
DENY THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
YEAH , remember that well the next time one steps up and tries to make you believe
there are good people in every religoin , that muslim and others did not have to repent and believe ON JESUS THE CHRIST
that somehow we all finding our way to GOD through this bull crap sorry dung pile they try and call love .
THEY DENY THE POWER OF GOD and i WILL EXPOSE THE WORK OF THE HARLOT
and her UNITY GATHERING sold out protestants too . I made my MIND UP and did so LONG AGO .
I WILL BE HATED BY MOST ALL , BUT ITS JESUS I WILL POINT TOO TILL MY LAST BREATH . no matter the cost .
and any sin will be exposed in any church i sit in .

MatthewG said:

I don’t believe in accountable to how a person feels.

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WELL YOU WOULD BE Right on this . TRUTH IS GONNA OFFEND many but TRUTH WILL ALSO save some .
We aint responsbile for how anyone reacts to the truth we bring . THEY ARE , ITS ON THEM .
We must simply speak and live the truth . What man do is on man . what we do is SPEAK TRUTH .

Ritajanice said:

I believe it’s because society won’t allow it, ...do you think homosexuals should feel shame, ?.....many have committed suicide have they not, because society ostracised them at one time.....society won’t allow that now...is that wrong?

Shouldn’t they not be loved regardless of gender?....

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When we base our evangelizing on how others feel , I TELL US ALL WE SELL OUT .
DO ya think JESUS was concerned about that .
WHEN HE even told his own , when they told him DONT YOU KNOW this offended them , LEAVE THEM BE .
JESUS DIDNT SAY oh wait i might have shamed them , i better find a way to preach my message so as not to offend or shame them .
Sister they been lying to us all for years . they changed the way to evangelize by making the feelings of men FIRST .
and it works . VICTIM CARD shaming stuff WORKS . BUT NOT ON ME IT DONT .
here is what i believe . SIMPLY SPEAK THE TRUTH in LOVE and whoever hears amen and whoerver rejects , ITS ON THEM .
I cannot give the increase , BUT I CAN SPEAK THE TRUTH and I MUST speak the truth .

The problem with many is they cannot recognize a man of GOD anymore .
For the men have been turned into women
and usually just sit by on the sidelines with pom poms and hugs and if anything they let the women lead the church .
I didnt get that pamplet . so now when a truly grave man comes along
he seen as nothing but a hater . a judger , too bold , to assertive and needs to find a chair and let sensual men
who got far too in touch with their FEMININE SIDE , lead . the women are more as men
and the men are more as women and not a one of them can help the church . NOT A ONE .

my hands are clean . I did what i could by grace .

Taken said:

Common simple terms are well suited for common simple carnal minded conversation.

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The Holy Bible is written in common simple terms.

That should be your source of emulation.

Taken said:

@amigo de christo
@Ritajanice

Etal…

There is a gentleman…Mark Robinson…
He is presently the Lt. Gov. Of North Carolina
(And I think perhaps running for Gov.)

He has a few videos on you…tube.
One from a few years ago…Very Good.

Titled…”Aint but two Genders!”

A couple minutes long….

Glory to God,
Taken

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cause there aint but TWO genders . and man is not to lie with man as with a woman and vice the versa .
Hey taken . no matter how much the churches sell out and try and act like
if gay folks got married it is now acceptable in the eyes of GOD . I TELL US ALL IT AINT .
its time the men got a bit of a spiritual backbone , a bit more grave
and actually stand up and defend the true faith , correct any and all who are in error and sin within their church .
And stop letting the sensual dont shame them train and victim card ALLOW THE CHURCHES TO BE DESTROYED from within .
START CORRECTING any and all sin within the church .
START actually reading THE BIBLE IN THE CHURCH .
start putting into effect THAT PATTERN for all things . OR , OR AINT A ONE OF THEM GONNA MAKE IT
and the LEAVEN GONNA SUCK EM ALL DOWN and lead them all to day of the perditoin of ungodly men .
DO WE LOVE THEM . THEN CORRECT THEM .

Ritajanice said:

Subjected unto the flesh?

We aren’t in the flesh were in the Spirit...

Therefore the old mindset is what needs renewing , ..if one is Born Again the old mindset will get in line and submits to the will of God..of course the Spirit brings us to this spiritual understanding ..it’s all learning in the Spirit, when we become Born Again....we’re in Gods spiritual realm, we’re in the world ,we’re not of the world...imo, belief.

We never stop learning how to walk in the Spirit as we are being made into the image of Jesus, all according to God’s purpose and plan.....everything in our lives focus on God....because we are in the Spirit.

We are his vessel to do whatever is pleasing to him...

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Ritajanice said:

Subjected unto the flesh?

We aren’t in the flesh were in the Spirit...

Therefore the old mindset is what needs renewing , ..if one is Born Again the old mindset will get in line and submits to the will of God..of course the Spirit brings us to this spiritual understanding ..it’s all learning in the Spirit, when we become Born Again....we’re in Gods spiritual realm, we’re in the world ,we’re not of the world...imo, belief.

We never stop learning how to walk in the Spirit as we are being made into the image of Jesus, all according to God’s purpose and plan.....everything in our lives focus on God....because we are in the Spirit.

We are his vessel to do whatever is pleasing to him...

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THE WE i spoke of are NOT OF CHRIST , are not born again , they might lip his name but their heart be far from him .
THE OLD MAN , THAT OLD MIND , IS CARNAL . IT IS . ITS SUBJECT unto the FLESH .
THE born again lambs have a new mind , the SPIRIT , they heed the SPIRIT .
But it is a die daily battle my friend . For the flesh is still present with us and it will rise up and pop lustful and wicked
thoughts into our minds . THE SPIRIT rings alarm bells and my advice is HEED THE SPIRIT and not the lustful thought of the flesh .
BRING them thoughts subject unto THE OBEDIANCE of CHRIST . HEED NOT the wicked flesh , HEED RATHER the SPIRIT .
and the TWO are CONTRARY the one to the other . IT IS A DIE DAILY BATTLE .
and we have the SPIRIT and the biblical pattern THE SPIRIT DID INSPIRE .
AND believe me when i say , THEM SPIRIT FILLED MEN were FAST TO CORRECT SIN within the church .
FAST to rebuke , fast to correct and if one heeded not , BELIEVE ME they got cast out and fast too .
The only pattern that works , IS THE PATTERN OF GOD . and we can FIND IT IN THE BIBLE . the apostels
did make sure and leave us those reminders to also help us . we bess learn and heed and heed and learn well
that biblical pattern .

amigo de christo said:

SOMETHING ELSE i notice .
what is the one sin that most all churches , most all society , most all the western world
is TERRIFED of even speaking against .
THE NUMBER ONE SIN .
HOMOSEXUALITY . NOW why do we suppose this is .
Even churches that preach out against certain sins , WONT TOUCH that one .
WHY do you think that is .
And what is this a sign of .
END DAYS MY FRIEND .
this is the one sin that most every singel church and society WILL NOT even dare , even dare to call a sin .
Folks are afraid of something .
And they will make any and every excuse as to why they sit silent in churches
as they SEE and KNOW FULL WELL married gay couples who claim to believe in JESUS are sitting week by week
month by month , year by year in those churches . THEY are terrified to say a word .
and now A WORD .
the fearful will not inherit the kingdom of GOD .
We cannot be fearful to do all to help the other , EVEN IF THAT SIN IS HOMOSEXUALITY .
let that sink in for a bit .

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again,

What church do you go to?

I have never been to a church that is afraid to teach of any sexual sin.

Ritajanice said:

Ok, you’re entitled to post what you believe the word of God to be saying.

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not if i am in error . rita its time we spoke plainly . not you , not me , not any IS ENTILTED . lets get that mindset far from us .
if i speak error , THEN EXPOSE the error .
cause if you do i am going to expose the error .
we do it for the good of the peoples .
BUT WE AINT ENTITLED .
truth is the only thing i was entitled too , WAS THE LAKE OF FIRE .
excuse me , while i go praise JESUS CHRIST for saving me from that place .
GOD IS ENTITLED not us
GOD IS ENTITLED to all praise , all honor .
We are but mortals and ought to do only that which is well pleasing unto GOD
so remember that . I AM NOT ENTITLED TO MY OPINION , NOR are you or any other .
OUR OPINION must simply match and agree too and with THE WORD and WORDS OF GOD and of CHRIST WHO IS ENTITLED .

Eternally Grateful said:

again,

What church do you go to?

I have never been to a church that is afraid to teach of any sexual sin.

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THEN you aint been to many churches as of late . I Cant find one that is not to some degree already
UNDER the influence of the unholy HARLOT AND HER UNHOLY INCLUSIVE PLAN .
TRUTH IS , its not just me either . there are other lambs also that i speak too in other states
as well as the world . THEY ARE SEEING the same thing .
The churches are selling out fast . quick to support emotions and fast to shut down biblical doctrine
IF said biblical doctrine exposes certain sins and the incluisive false love train . THEY becomign more and more
hateful against BIBLICAL SIN EXPOSING doctrine , even the gospel itself
and men or even women who would dare to expose their golden rainbow diverse fake love bull .
and believe me ITS BULL all right . BULL . i dont need to put the other word that follows bull into the phrase do i ..........
ITS TOTAL BULL ...............and it will not save a soul . YEt many get on the unity love train . its not looking good my friend .

Ritajanice said:

I’m talking about those in the world, those who don’t know the truth of Gods word.....

Aren’t most people in the world led by the emotions?

Doesn’t society brain wash us....not believers....non believers?

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not only is that true , SADLY most in the churches are now led by emotions not TRUTH .
We must do all that we can as GOD does lead and equip us , TO expose and to point ONLY TO CHRIST
unto truth . Rita , my dear friend , many are not gonna make it . that does make me very sad . but it is true .
because they have not submitted unto the righteosness of GOD . aka THERE ONLY ONE way to DO THAT .
THE RIGHTEOUNESS OF GOD is CHRIST JESUS who makes us RIGHTEOUS .
inclusivity has come to remove that . it has come to bring in accepantance of sins too
it has come in the name of its father and those of that father will do its will and its bidding .
IT has come to offer up a false salvation that will save none .
It has come to offer up a broad path , that it calls love , which again WILL NOT SAVE THEM but will Damn them .
And it will soon come with all its children who had rejected the love of the truth whereby they could be saved
and were given unto the delusion to believe a lie , and it will come with teeth and as one
AGAINST THE TRUE LAMBS who did not conform .
I say that not to bring fear but to just remind us .
BUT always remember this , It matters not how long or how short the earthen life of a lamb is
THE MOMENT IT DIES , its body dies ITS FOREVER IN PARADIES WITH KING JESUS WHO SAVED IT and had kept it .
And believe me , when i say , THAT PLACE IS FAR BETTER THAN THIS OL WORLD IS .........
WE GONNA BE DANCING PRAISES WITH THANKGIVINGS , NO MORE SUFFERING , NO MORE PAIN
ONLY GREAT JOY WITH THE LORD . but we will endure hardships and trials and perscutions IN THIS LIFE
and they are about to get WORSE .

Eternally Grateful said:

See thats what you get when you listen to men

Jesus said those things, He di dnot stutter. He did not give conditions. He did not say you will get these things as long as you do this or that.

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WRONG.
I listed several coditions in post #873.
The fact that YOU reject this truth is on YOU . . .

Eternally Grateful said:

He said whoever feeds on the food he will give will
Never hnger
Never thirst
Never die
Live forever
HAS eternal life
Will be raised on the last day

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In Heaven - ALL of these things will be a reality.

Eternally Grateful said:

not to mention, they will never be lost.

Just take jesus at his word. And stop listening to men who are tryign to decieve you

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Jesus won't lose us.

HOWEVER - as I have already shown you - the Bible warns that WE can turn away from Him if we lose faith, as well as our security.
(Matt. 7:19-23, Matt. 10:22, Matt. 24:13, Matt. 25:31–46, John 15:1-6, Rom. 11:22, 1 Cor. 4:4, 1 Cor. 9:27, 1 Cor. 10:12, 1 Tim. 4:1, 1 Tim. 4:16, 2 Tim. 2:12, Heb. 3:6, Heb. 3:12-14, Heb. 6:4-6, Heb. 10:26-27, 2 Pet. 2:20-21, 2 Pet. 3:17, 1 John 2:24, 1 John 5:13, Rev. 3:5, Rev. 22:19)

BreadOfLife said:

WRONG.
I listed several coditions in post #873.
The fact that YOU reject this truth is on YOU . . .

In Heaven - ALL of these things will be a reality.

Jesus won't lose us.

HOWEVER - as I have already shown you - the Bible warns that WE can turn away from Him if we lose faith, as well as our security.
(Matt. 7:19-23, Matt. 10:22, Matt. 24:13, Matt. 25:31–46, John 15:1-6, Rom. 11:22, 1 Cor. 4:4, 1 Cor. 9:27, 1 Cor. 10:12, 1 Tim. 4:1, 1 Tim. 4:16, 2 Tim. 2:12, Heb. 3:6, Heb. 3:12-14, Heb. 6:4-6, Heb. 10:26-27, 2 Pet. 2:20-21, 2 Pet. 3:17, 1 John 2:24, 1 John 5:13, Rev. 3:5, Rev. 22:19)

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Read John 6 for heaven's sake

Jesus did not say when you get to heaven this will be true

He said we we DO what he said to do THIS will BE TRUE.

Stop making Jesus out to be a liar..l

Eternally Grateful said:

Read John 6 for heaven's sake
Jesus did not say when you get to heaven this will be true
He said we we DO what he said to do THIS will BE TRUE.
Stop making Jesus out to be a liar..l

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The only one making Jesus out to be a liar - is YOU . . .

As I pointed out before - YOU don’t look at the entire context of Scripture. The New Testament repeatedly gives conditions for salvation – as I have AMPLY presented.
YOU, on the other hand, choose to cherry-pick your way through Scripture – which is a recipe for false doctrine.

I’ll give you a perfect example:

Protestants usually point to Romans 10 as “proof” for Sola Fide (Faith Alone):
Rom. 10:13
“Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

However, Matt. 7 clarifies this and gives us cotext:
Matt. 7:21
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who DOES the will of my Father who is in heaven.

CONTEXT, son . . .