God is male/female

Mr E said:

No, no I didn't. I said they are male and female, not one or the other. They can express both masculine and feminine attributes, but that's not all.... they also express animal attributes-- and we see this throughout scripture.

If I show you a grey swatch and tell you that it's neither black nor white..... does that help you understand?

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Yes... I understand that you're being obtuse on purpose.

I think I’ll spin out a new thread as this is a fascinating subject to me. Everyone is familiar with ‘a land before time’ when dinosaurs and giants roamed the earth, but how much thought have we given to a time before land?

Pearl said:

Jesus was with God in the beginning. Through Him - Jesus - all things were made.

John 1:1-3​

The Word Became Flesh​

1 In the beginning was the Word, -Jesus - and the Word was with God, and the Word -Jesus - was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

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The finer point Pearl is that “Jesus” was a man, born and raised—- just like this messenger that came to Abraham was a man, but a different man. It may well have been (and probably was) the same spirit in both this man who came to Abraham and this man-Jesus who came to Nazareth, but one was before the other and while the spirit within may have been the same, the men were not.

"I am God and not a male (Hebrew ish" means "a male"), the Holy One in your midst (Hosea 11:9)."

Pearl said:

Don't you believe that Jesus, prior to his birth in Bethlehem, was with God as it says in my quote where he is called the Word. Obviously he wasn't 'called' Jesus back then as he was only named after his birth but it is the same person, Lord.

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No, I don’t believe your belief. It could be the same spirit, but you are pointing to a time before any “person” (human) had been created.

You might think this is semantics, or a nuanced position— but it’s actually a key to understanding. The “word” became flesh. Jesus wasn’t ‘the word’ in the way you might think, rather ‘the word’ of God came to him. It descended upon him and nested within him— like a dove as scripture states. The spirit upon and within him.

Pearl said:

Don't you believe that Jesus, prior to his birth in Bethlehem, was with God as it says in my quote where he is called the Word. Obviously he wasn't 'called' Jesus back then as he was only named after his birth but it is the same person, Lord.

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Can we discuss the Forbidden T Doctrine so long as we don't use the Forbidden T Word? That's parsing the rules pretty finely, it seems to me. Just an observation.

MatthewG said:

Not sure if quoting what is written by Paul that this really makes a difference concerning God being man / female. It’s understandable we go by the masculine term, he constantly. It’s just something that was brought to my attention. Whether or not you accept that, is of course between you and yourself and of course God and you know that.

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sounds to me like someone is trying to make a case for the transgender and for us to not correct such wicked behavoir .
GOD is NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE . but he did create us either male or female .
I seen this same someone also try and downplay the homosexual movement too . Something is going dead wrong my friend .
Dead wrong . sounds like someone is under this sensual love judge not stuff and they getting worse all the time .
Better we bible up mathew .

O'Darby said:

Can we discuss the Forbidden T Doctrine so long as we don't use the Forbidden T Word? That's parsing the rules pretty finely, it seems to me. Just an observation.

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Like maybe we could do a Kentucky O'Darby version and call it the Trifecta.

Pearl said:

@MatthewG My belief is that as God created Adam in his own likeness, so Adam had both the male and female characteristics within himself. But then God removed the feminine from Adam and made a woman. So I believe God has both those qualities and it is why most of us have some small residue of hormones of the opposite sex. But I don't like to think God got it wrong when he made us and knit us together in the womb. Sadly so many people do believe that these days.

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yep .
what the author , mathew , of this original thread seems to be doing is
trying to make a case for the transgender . you might wanna go back and reread it .

amigo de christo said:

sounds to me like someone is trying to make a case for the transgender and for us to not correct such wicked behavoir .
GOD is NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE . but he did create us either male or female .
I seen this same someone also try and downplay the homosexual movement too . Something is going dead wrong my friend .
Dead wrong . sounds like someone is under this sensual love judge not stuff and they getting worse all the time .
Better we bible up mathew .

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He's sadly under the spell of a self-described cult leader by the name of Shawn McCraney.

---founder and teacher of Christian Ultra Libertarians for Truth.​

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Shawn McCraney

Shawn McCraney, in order of his nature, is an artist, a seeker of Truth and authentic expression, an iconoclast and a punk who maintains a large dose of suspicion for cultures, institutions, and consumerism and the marketing that surrounds it.

shawnmccraney.com

O'Darby said:

Can we discuss the Forbidden T Doctrine so long as we don't use the Forbidden T Word? That's parsing the rules pretty finely, it seems to me. Just an observation.

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sooon enough we wont even be able to discuss and debate even the forbidden rainbow word and its things .

Pearl said:

Just quoting scripture.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

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Did John know Jesus?

Ever ask yourself why John would just say something like “In the beginning was Jesus and Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God. Jesus was with God in the beginning, through Jesus all things were made…., and so on.

He could have said that, of course… but he didn’t. So he’s quite obviously not talking about “Jesus” specifically— not Jesus the man, but something else before and beyond Jesus that existed prior to that little manger scene.

Teaching from the Church of England or any evangelical source will be a difficult thing to overcome. You have my compassion.