I get to know Christ better every day by reading His love letter to me; and I did answer your question.
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Oh so certainty is not Security, If I am secure than I must be sure,
But you see, all you do is than as many do come add some obscure thing to justify the lie, Are you saved or are you not, Did Jesus die for your sins or did He not, is it finished and complete or did Jesus only do half the work. Which is it.??
On that I agree
What Hasnt He??? We have but one work, Believe.
It is to you obviously but apparently not to Him. What was it Saul said after murdering all those Christians.
Php 3:6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
As I said before wouldnt you rather your Husband left out in the cold knocking on the door waiting to be let in. As teh bible says
Joh 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
You see what that first line says, because they dont believe Him they search the scriptures but never go to Him still the same today.
Mat 11:16 But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,
Mat 11:17 And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented.
Mat 11:18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
Mat 11:19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
@mjrhealth,
You obviously read the scriptures in order to be able to quote them to make your points.
I could say to you what you have said to me, that you are unwilling to come to Christ in order that you may have life.
And when you say it to me, it does not have any weight to it; because I do have a relationship with Christ.
I confess Him as my Lord and Saviour.
I spoke to Him even in my dreams last night; and He also spoke to me.
That a man reads his Bible on a regular basis in no way means that he doesn't have a relationship with Christ. In fact, he is more likely to have a relationship; since these are they which testify of Him.
In order for people to come to know Christ, it is important that there be a preacher (Romans 10:13-15); and the subject of most preaching, last time I checked, is the word of God (2 Timothy 4:2).
You obviously read the scriptures in order to be able to quote them to make your points.
I could say to you what you have said to me, that you are unwilling to come to Christ in order that you may have life.
And when you say it to me, it does not have any weight to it; because I do have a relationship with Christ.
I confess Him as my Lord and Saviour.
I spoke to Him even in my dreams last night; and He also spoke to me.
That a man reads his Bible on a regular basis in no way means that he doesn't have a relationship with Christ. In fact, he is more likely to have a relationship; since these are they which testify of Him.
In order for people to come to know Christ, it is important that there be a preacher (Romans 10:13-15); and the subject of most preaching, last time I checked, is the word of God (2 Timothy 4:2).
God doesnt need a preacher to bring one to Himself, He just needs a willing heart.
Joh_6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Joh_12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
I quote scripture because christians dont believe God, they only seek after the bible, knowledge, You said once I believe that you are a minister, that makes it doubly hard.
Rom 10:13, For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Rom 10:14, How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Rom 10:15, And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
The reality is, that the Holy Spirit draws men to Jesus through the preaching of the gospel message; because man is not inclined to come to the Lord on his own; for he is dead in trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1, 2 Corinthians 5:14, Romans 3:10-18).
Oh so blind, that is you denying Gods power and authority and giving it all to men. It is no wonder christianity is such a mess.
2Ti_3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
God doesnt need men, just one willing to listen of which there are few.
If He is calling you to preach and you are neglecting that because of this ideology, you will surely be accountable for the souls that do not enter in to the kingdom because you failed to preach to them.
Most certainly, God can apprehend someone with a dream, or a drug trip, or by any means He desires to use; but the primary method that He uses is the preaching of the gospel message. That is His chosen venue.
Gospel or bible, and who is called, was it Christ, did He call you, or was it bible college, how can one go if one hasnt being sent, and who is it that sends, is it not Christ,?? If the "church" was doing its job and leading people to Christ the pews would be empty because they would all be in Him and have no need for man, so obviously something is wrong.
No; for God has ordained ministers to edify the body of Christ (Ephesians 4:11-12).
And, in order for them to minister, the body has to be gathered together (Hebrews 10:25).
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When we are in Christ in the Spirit we are always together, you think too worldly. Bu than a mister without a church has noting one who is in Christ has everything.
It apparently would only make things worse - if it was 'intelligible' more people might fall for it , for all the wrong reasons, instead of listening to the Good Shepherd, our Lord and Savior , Jesus, God above all Gods, Name above all Names.
CharismaticLady
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Yes, it is Love. So which of the two covenant commandments best represents the eternal law of LOVE God with all your heart, soul and body, and love your neighbor as yourself.
New Covenant Commandments:
1 John 3:23
And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
Old covenant Commandments:
Exodus 20
And God spoke all these words, saying:
2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.
4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
13 “You shall not murder.
14 “You shall not commit adultery.
15 “You shall not steal.
16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”
CharismaticLady
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In Israel is there a particular denomination that you belong to, or have you made up your own? Are you Calvinist?
Well at least you got the Shepherd part right, seems not to many listening to Him
There is no sin "in Christ".
You are , if you are born again, "in Christ".
If you're not, then see yourself as a sinner.
You decide.
My Thread isn't about "Christ".
So, what are you talking about?
My Thread's of which there are about 30 of them, basically are teaching that if you don't understand your position in Christ, you will "see yourself as a saved sinner", which is exactly how God does not evaluate you, at all.
I teach Pauline Theology. He didn't "make it up", so, you can figure that out.
In Israel = Messianic Church.
This church service is a bit different then what you find in the States, as there is often more then one speaker.
If you do not speak Hebrew, you wear headphones and an interpreter interprets the service while you listen and watch. This interpretation is usually in english.
There is also a break during the service. This allows the congregation to hang out and fellowship for a while.
Some have coffee, have a dessert, and just fellowship. This lasts for 30-45 mins, then we reassemble and have more "church".
I know how He sees, that is why im not concerned, most people wont read long posts , and as I said Jesus is not that complicated, what takes us 2 pages Jesus can do in one line if we will but let Him.
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