Is This the Beast?

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Continued from Post 80 Above.

In Daniel, 9:24-26, we are given four prophetic words, with the first verse prophecy being that after the temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem, that Israel and Jerusalem will have 490 years in which to stop their sin of idolatrous worship, after which, God will bring in a new process for the forgiveness of sins which will bring in everlasting righteousness, seal up the vision and the prophecy and to anoint the most Holy.

Daniel’s people and Jerusalem did not respond to this prophecy within the 490 years, so God began fulfilling the second half of this prophetic verse, by fulfilling other prophetic words, by having Jesus Born of a Virgin, in Bethlehem at the start of the fifth Age of mankind. Even now, then the Little Horn rose up against Jesus and tried to have him killed through his earthly agents.

In Verse 25, God told how the Temple would be rebuilt in times of trouble, and after the allotted time for the temple to be rebuilt, that the Messiah will be cut off, i.e. killed, but not for himself. Why was this significant? Because the sacrifice of the Messiah of Israel was bringing in the new process by which the redemption of our sins will occur, sealed up by His Blood and anointing what was most holy.

After this the Little Horn returns with an army to destroy and level Jerusalem and the Temple and to take the rest of the nation of Israel into slavery scattered throughout the whole earth.

God’s plan for the salvation of the earth, has now waited for two ages for the prophetic prophecy in Exodus, 20:4-6 to be completely fulfilled for the visitation of the Nation of Israel’s sins iniquities upon the fathers’ during these present two ages. children and the children’s children. The finishing of the visitation of the iniquities of the fathers upon the nation of Israel is drawing to a conclusion, and when it has ended God will once again turn back towards israel and hear theit plight and begin the process of drawing them to himself and will plant them in a fertile filed and teach them about the highest mountian in all of the world based on the foundational stone that will come down from heaven at around the same time.

During the time of the kings mentioned in the fifth segment of the Statue prophecy, God will Judge the wicked heavenly Hosts in heaven and the kings of the earth at Armageddon at the same time and they will be gathered together and imprisoned in a pit for many days. Isa, 24:21-22.

In Rev, 12 we are told that Satan is thrown out of heaven down to the earth, and that when he, and the other five heavenly hosts and the judged kings of the earth are released afte they have been locked up for 1,000 years, we enter the little while period, possibly a little longer than 20 years.

During this 1,000 year period of Satan being locked up in the Bottomless pit, supposedly to get a kingdom, his good and faithful servants will continue his oppression of the people of the earth in an attempt that God’s Everlasting Kingdom will not get a foot hold on the earth.

In the Parable of the Minas in Luke, 19, Jesus hints that that when Satan Goes away, supposedly to get his kingdom, that Israel will declare that they no longer want Satan to be king over their lives. When Satan is released 1,000 years later he knows that his time is short, i.e. only around 20 or so years, for him to attempt to establish his earthly kingdom where he only will be worshipped.

Initially, when the Bottomless pit is unlocked, the kings of the earth rise up out of the pit, under the control of Satan, to attack those who did not have God’s seal upon them, but they still did not repent of their wicked ways.

After this the four angels were released to kill off a third of mankind.

After this, John is told to measure the temple and we are told of the two witnesses who eventually are killed and then rise again and in the turmoil that follows their resurrection, 7,000 people are killed in Jerusalem, but the rest of the people in Jerusalem gave glory to the God of heaven.

Now the beast of the four previous beasts of Daniel, 7:1-12 manifests themselves as a single entity in the sea of the people of the earth, and the dragon gave authority to the manifested beast and all of the world marvelled and followed the beast. So they worshipped the dragon, i.e. Satan, who gave them a seven year solemn covenant, and the beast saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make word with him?”

The beast spoke great things and blasphemies and he made war with the Saints and to overcome them and authority was given to him over every tribe tongue and nation. All who dwell on the earth will worship him whose name is not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the beginning of the foundation of the earth.

Now the Little Horn beast, the False Prophet, also rose up from out of the pit in the earth and he made great signs happen and he cause the people to worship the beast and the image of the beast.

Now to cut to the end of the End times.

In Revelation, 19 we are told that at the end of the Millennium Age both the Beast and the False Prophet are captured by Jesus and thrown into the Lake of Fire.

Then in chapter 20 we are told: -

“Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet had just been cast into by Jesus. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

After this the earth will be refurbished like new once again, to be given as the inheritance for the Saints.

Our understanding of the events of the End Time, as recorded in the scriptures, generally follows the above sequence of event, however not all of the events and their sequence has been provided in these two posts.

For example I have not given when Babylon was remembered once more before God as described in the Seventh Bowl Judgement which occurred in 1926 or that Jerusalem was divided into three three part in 1948.

Neither did I present the order in which the woe, bowl or trumpet prophecies occur as this was a brief thumbnail sketch of what has and is to happen with respect to the end times.

Shalom.
 

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I've noticed a number of people who are of the opinion that we are seeing the beast rising in the governments of today. Is that what you see?
I'm thinking that while oligarchs of today desire global rule, that a worldwide cataclysmic event will throw all of that into chaos, leaving the world's governments and economies in ruins. And out of those ruins something new will rise, the beast.
What do you think?

Sad. very sad. If the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?

Reading the messages posted in this topic, one says a thing, other says another thing, "deep calleth unto deep at the noise of thy waterspouts".
The Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy...
If any discern not what is lie and believe in it instead to believe in God's Truth, certainly he is in great danger and may even lose his soul, because turn away the ears from the Truth, and turned unto fables.

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Beloved, it is the last time: and as you have heard that Antichrist comes, even now are there many Antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

The disciples asked to JESUS: Tell us, ...
what shall be the sign of thy coming? and of the END of the world?

JESUS warned saying unto them: Take heed that no man deceive you, many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
And because iniquity shall
abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

THE WORD IS GOD
 
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Hello

At present in the world there are four independent beasts operating with the third beast having four heads and therefore is able to exercise influence over four people groups, nations or empires at the same time. It is my understanding that the beats, described as four winds of heaven, i.e. angels who have rebelled against God, and they are able to cause manifestations of themselves within the sea of humanity which we can identify as having the characteristics of the four winds/spirits/angels of heaven.

In Dan. 7:1-12 we are told that they have been operating freely until the God of heaven calls them to account and judges them in heaven, with one of the beasts being slain, and the other three beast having their respective dominions taken from them and their lives were prolonged for a season and a little while. Isa. 24:21-22 also speaks of this time of judgement of the wicked fallen heavenly hosts, i.e. angels who have rebelled against God, and that they will be imprisoned in a pit and after many days they will be punished. The book of Revelation also tells us the same story, and it is in agreement with Dan. 7:19-27. In the Book of Revelation we are told that the pit is unlocked and the kings of the earth, the four facetted beast, the Little Horn, also called the False Prophet in the Book of Revelation, and that they all come up for a time out of the Bottomless pit to go against the Saints, until they are dealt with and dispatched into the Lake of Fire.

In reading the description of the beast in Rev. 13 and 17, we can identify that the beast of the Book of Revelation is a combination of all of the 4 beasts of Dan. 7:1-12. and in conjunction with the False Prophet/the Little Horn of Dan. 7 & 8, the peoples of the earth are force to worship the image of the beast and if they will not worship the beast by turning away from God, then they will not be able buy or sell so that they can gain food to live on.

When does Rev. 13 & 17 play out on the End Times timeline?

It is my understanding that it will not occur for around 1,000 + years after the Bottomless pit is unlocked and they are able to rise up for one last tilt at obtaining Satan's desired kingdom where people will be forced to only worship him.

Is this same mark obtainable today and if so what is this mark?

The mark today is obtained voluntarily where we can freely chose to turn away from God and the mark is that we are destined for the second death, but if we are prepared to repent of our sins and do the things outlined in God's statutes, then we will live and be able to gain the promised inheritance available to all those who are judged to be righteous.

Now since the Saints will not be forced to recant God at this present time for another 1000 + years, our fear of being forced to take Satan's mark is not an issue that we should be focused on at this present time, but rather we should be focusing on establishing and maintaining a righteous relationship with God in all of the things that we chose to do in our lives.

To maintain our righteous before God, we need the prompting of the Holy Spirit to keep a handle on when we are sinning against God and for the Holy Spirit to prompt us to be repentant of the sin of turning away from God.

Trying to identify the beast at this present time is a waste of time and is not profitable for us to pursue.

Shalom

PS: - A good reflection on Ezekiel. 18 is a must for us to read concerning God, advice to us.
 

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The woman in scarlet rides the beast. The woman, an apostate religious system....the beast a political entity.
The woman has been around a long time as has the beast
Ecclesiastes 3:18 KJV
[18] I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.
 

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Ecclesiastes 3:18 KJV
[18] I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.

I found interesting to comment about to the prophetic two terrible and satanic MAN Beasts:

1 - The FIRST Beast is the ancient Beast that rose up out of the sea since the first century-that is, rose up out of the peoples, and nations, and multitudes, and tongues - the Papacy with his woman, a whore- the Roman Catholic Church-, which rides upon the Beast of sea; and,

2 - an ANOTHER MAN Beast who will come of the earth -will come of Israel, the clay, the dry land- , and he has two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a Dragon. He will exercise all the power of the FIRST Beast -THE ANCIENT BEAST OF SEA- THE PAPACY- before him, and causes the earth-causes the nation of Israel- and them which dwell therein to worship the first Beast,- the Pope- whose deadly wound was healed . - was healed by the Beast of earth - Revelation 13:v.2

That said, let analyse how these two satanic beasts will work in days to come, or in near future, mainly the MAN beast of earth:

~~~~~~~ TO ALL READERS - BE CAREFUL OR GET READY ~~~~~~~

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Continuation of above

What prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD.

Here is a PORTRAIT or a faithful description about the MAN Beast of the earth

What does the Word of God reveals about the Beast of earth? Revelation 13:v.11 to 18:
11 And I beheld ANOTHER Beast
coming up out of the earth (earth is Israel - the clay);
and he had two horns like a lamb,
and he spake as a Dragon.
EARTH
- earth points the origin of the beast: earth is Israel specifically, not the Planet Earth. Actually he comes from one of the twelve tribes of Israel - tribe of Dan; Jacob prophesied about his son named Dan, whose seed would give rise to the Dragon, Satan himself. Genesis 49:v.17

TWO HORNS
- two horns is about two kingdoms: Kingdom of Israel (10 tribes) and Kingdom of Judah (2 tribes) ;

A LAMB
- like a lamb points a disguised and satanic imitation of the true Messiah-JESUS. In fact he is a former Cherub, wiser than Daniel, a Torah Master like a Rabi, actually a false prophet, and as an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist MAN, he is knowledgeable or understood in guessing ; he will be the head of the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist Judaism ;

HIS SPEECH
- he speaks as a Dragon. You see? You see? On the outside this MAN appears to be a lamb, but on the inside he is Satan himself, a MAN of fierce countenance, actually an arrogant and ruthless MAN skilled in intrigue. In fact he is the red Dragon, the old Serpent, called the Devil and Satan. He is the father of the Jews or serpents-John 8:v.44 combined with Matthew 23:v.33 to 35 - Check it out ;

- In fact, a false lamb, even a false messiah; the Jews are waiting their peculiar messiah, not JESUS. By the way, JESUS prophesied the coming of false messiah: JESUS said: John 5:v.43 - I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if ANOTHER (an IMPOSTOR) shall come in his own name - a false messiah, AN IMPOSTOR -, him ye will receive. This will fulfill LITERALLY.
In fact they preferred Barabbas, instead JESUS, again they will refuse the glorified JESUS - KING of kings (kings made by Him), and LORD of lords, and they will claim Satan as their messiah, because GOD, even GOD the Father, -the Word - "will
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth (believed not in JESUS), but had pleasure in unrighteousness-2Thes. 2:v.11-12.

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Here goes how the Dragon-Satan- now as the Beast of earth - the old Serpent, called the Devil and Satan - yes, how he will work in the FIRST HALF of the week -1,260 days- of the last week. Again: FIRST HALF of the last week, the 70th week.

VERSE 12 - And he - the MAN Beast of earth - exerciseth all the power of the FIRST beast -the Beast of sea - the Papacy - before him - before the Pope - , and causes the earth - the nation of Israel - and them which dwell therein to worship the FIRST Beast -to worship the Beast of sea - the Pope - the Papacy -, whose deadly wound was healed- (healed by the false messiah, the Beast of the earth).

13 And he - the spiritist false messiah, the beast of earth -(earth is Israel) doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth -deceives the people of Israel - by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast - in the sight Beast of sea - the Pope - ENTHRONED in the temple of GOD in the first half of the week -; saying to them that dwell on the earth -saying to the people of Israel-, that they should make an image to the beast -image of the Beast of sea -the Pope- enthroned in the temple of GOD in the first half of week by the false messiah-, which had the wound by a Sword, and did live - live with the help of the spiritist false messiah. - THE SWORD IS THE WORD OF GOD -

15 And he - the spiritist false messiah - has power to give life unto the image of the beast - UNTO THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST OF SEA-THE POPE-, that the image of the beast - IMAGE OF THE POPE- things of OWN spiritism - should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. ATTENTION. NOTE: JESUS warned those which believe in Him, saying: Matthew 24:v. 14-20

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand);
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Rev.13:v.16-18 -
16 And he - the RUTHLESS and spiritist false messiah-Beast of the earth - causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a MAN; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Its it. What prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD.
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 2 Thes. 2:v.8
Be careful or get ready
 

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Who/what is the FIFTH "Divided Kingdom" empire of Clay?

Good question. Good question.

But let analyze first the verses 40 to 42:

40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

As all here know, the fourth kingdom is the Roman Empire. No doubt about this.

41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

- Feet are two;
- Toes are ten;
- The clay of the Potter is one specific people of the top of the divided kingdom;
- The iron is the people of the powerful Roman Empire ruled by Gentile as is written in the verse 40.


42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

- Part of clay is one specific people in the top of the kingdom, but it is in fact the weakest, or partly broken;
- Part iron is the main part of the kingdom, in fact the strongest and original of the Roman Empire;
Both peoples of very different origins from one another, they will be mixed but not linked one another. (It's like oil and water in a glass, together but not mixed)

Well, the kingdom of the feet and toes of the Nebuchadnezzar's statue is the fifth and last kingdom ruled by the Devil which will be destroyed, a stone will be cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold, as follow:

44 And in the days of these kings (future) shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom - God's Kingdom - Revelation 11:v.15 to 18 - Check it out), which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

IMPORTANT DETAIL - The two legs

The Kingdom of Roman Empire is figured in TWO LEGS OF IRON of the great statue, by allegory the two legs of iron mean the division of the Roman Empire in TWO parts. THEY ARE:

The Roman Empire of Western, endured from 395 BC -476 AD- and the Bizantine Roman Empire from 330AD-1.453AD---> Both kingdoms were DISSOLVED completely, practically both empires were politically and militarily dissolved AND THEIR INHABITANTS scattered among nations. Each one of these two Roman empires -
two legs - were transformed into a SPECIFIC and distincts religious Powers until today:

1 - The Roman Catholic Church ruled by the Beast of sea - the Papacy . Around 266 Popes were elected in around two millennia, upon which the RCC rides . (The Roman Empire of Western-395 BC - 476 AD)

2 - The Orthodox Christians (the Bizantine Roman Empire from 330AD-1.453AD)

Its it.

P.S.

Clay of the feet and 10 toes is the people of Israel - Isaiah 64:v. 8 to 12
8 But now, O Lord, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

9 Be not wroth very sore, O Lord, neither remember iniquity for ever: behold, see, we beseech thee, we are all thy people.

10 Thy holy cities are a wilderness, Zion is a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation.

11 Our holy and our beautiful house, where our fathers praised thee, is burned up with fire: and all our pleasant things are laid waste.

12 Wilt thou refrain thyself for these things, O Lord? wilt thou hold thy peace, and afflict us very sore?

10 toes
The ten toes are the kingdom of Israel, i.e.the 10 tribes of Israel, which rebelled against the house of David, and against JESUS
also, by the way JESUS is of the house of David.



 

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What someone correctly said earlier, that Babylon means confusion, is readily apparent in reading this thread.
There do appear to be some variations in people's understandings.

For myself, I think the real key is to have in your heart first and foremost what the Bible says, the words of Scripture. The more we know the words of Scripture themself, the more we can meditate on them, be changed by them, make connections between them, and, with prophecy, when it DOES come to pass, however it does, we'll know the words of the prophet, and will recognize the fulfillment.

Much love!
 

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What someone correctly said earlier, that Babylon means confusion, is readily apparent in reading this thread.

It is a day of trouble, and of treading down, and of perplexity by the Lord God of hosts in the valley of vision... Isaiah 22:v.5

Dan. 9:v.7-8
7 O Lord, righteousness belongeth unto thee, but unto us confusion of faces, as at this day; to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and unto all Israel, that are near, and that are far off, through all the countries whither thou hast driven them, because of their trespass that they have trespassed against thee.
8 O Lord, to us belongeth confusion of face, to our kings, to our princes, and to our fathers, because we have sinned against thee.


Micah 7:v. 2-7
2 The good man is perished out of the earth: and there is none upright among men: they all lie in wait for blood; they hunt every man his brother with a net.

3 That they may do evil with both hands earnestly, the prince asketh, and the judge asketh for a reward; and the great man, he uttereth his mischievous desire: so they wrap it up.

4 The best of them is as a brier: the most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge: the day of thy watchmen and thy visitation cometh; now shall be their perplexity.

5 Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom.

6 For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man's enemies are the men of his own house.

7 Therefore I will look unto the Lord; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me.


Nahum 1:v.7 - The Lord is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in Him.
 

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There do appear to be some variations in people's understandings.

For myself, I think the real key is to have in your heart first and foremost what the Bible says, the words of Scripture. The more we know the words of Scripture themself, the more we can meditate on them, be changed by them, make connections between them, and, with prophecy, when it DOES come to pass, however it does, we'll know the words of the prophet, and will recognize the fulfillment.

Much love!
Protestants today have forgotten, or at least when it is convenient to their opinions, forgotten that scripture interprets itself. Thus it was for the reformers. The reformers were all, without exception, on the same page when it came to identifying the beast. It's one of the few things they agreed on. They may have disagreed on most everything else, but on this vital point, the identifying of the Antichrist, they agreed. And they did so not because of a common enemy, nor because they were confused as Christians are today, nor because they needed an excuse for what their enemies called 'rebellion'. No, they were in agreement because on this one thing they used scripture.
Halt! Who Goes There? Friend or Foe? | Brakelite's Breach Repair, Brick by Brick. (wordpress.com)
 

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Protestants today have forgotten, or at least when it is convenient to their opinions, forgotten that scripture interprets itself.

Right. "scripture interprets itself".
Right. "scripture interprets itself". And more: Scripture is the Truth; Scripture is the powerful Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, and was made flesh through a virgin as said the Word - GOD - through the prophet Isaiah: Isaiah 7:v.14 - Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

What I tell, I tell to all
Is it written in the Bible? Then will fulfill LITERALLY because the Word is GOD. Great mystery. By analogy, the Bible is GOD.

Again: Scripture is the Truth. What does the Scripture say? 2 Corinthians 13:v. 8 - We can do nothing against the Truth, but for the Truth (if not for the Truth). Here goes a good example:
Satan said to JESUS: Matthew 4:v. 6


6 - If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone
-Psalm 91:v.11-12. (Here Satan, the father of lie, said the Truth, but with the evil intention of making JESUS stumble, or fall into his trap)

Jesus replied Satan saying for the truth: It is also written, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God - Deut. 6:v.16.

Let us be careful
 

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prophecy, when it DOES come to pass, however it does, we'll know the words of the prophet, and will recognize the fulfillment.
The reformers were unanimous in their comparison of history with prophecy, declaring the Antichrist is here. The Antichrist then changed the hermeneutic to futurism and the modem church believes the Antichrist is not here but still to come.
 

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The reformers were unanimous in their comparison of history with prophecy, declaring the Antichrist is here. The Antichrist then changed the hermeneutic to futurism and the modem church believes the Antichrist is not here but still to come.
I'd sooner say, not that they changed the hermeneutic to "futurism", more that they changed the hermeneutic to "historical/grammatical", which then yielded a Futurist view on some prophecy.

For instance, in the mark of the beast, the non-literalist, if you will, might say, this is an attitude of the mind, an act of the hand, while the literalist would say, no, it's an imprint of some kind on the skin of the front of the head, or on the right hand.

And from there they go on to say, while many people have had many attitudes, and done many things, no one has marked the people who worshiped the image, so this hasn't happened yet.

Much love!