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An epidemic is local death and devastation. A pandemic is worldwide death and devastation.
So then... Is this a pandemic from what i see... Lets go through the list...

1* Im still yet to meet one person who has even had covid... I've asked everyone if they know anyone any none of them do

2* They tried to tell us this lie. Our hospitals were never overrun

3* The mortality rate is lower than in previous years. Flu deaths went down to zero.

4* Speaks for itself... Fear, fear, fear is the tactic being employed...

5* One of my faves... Independent fact checkers censoring professionals, labelling their opinions as "misinformation"... Is this science now... We seem to have become the Soviet Union overnight and most people are cool with it...

What is the occupation of the main character in 1984? He was a fact checker, wasn't he? Iv been meaning to watch that movie again recently... I think he was a fact checker and this world is looking more like that film... They are at war with an invisible enemy that their government perpetuates as the narrative, similar to covid... Big brother is watching and 2+2 is starting to look more like it equals 5.

6* $$$ Big Pharma $$$

7* As we have seen

8* As we have seen

9* LoL... How silly... As we have seen again...

Conclusion...
There is no kind of epidemic in Australia therefore there is no world wide pandemic...
 

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Brag all you want about having Covid-19 under control there but here all my friends have been seriously hurt and sick by this. Several have lost loved ones by this virus.

The hospitals here are overrun with coronavirus cases and the 2 new floors I built last year of ICU beds are full.

Nurses I know are working extra shifts with lots of overtime because of the nursing shortages...others are sick at home wondering if they will be able to taste and smell again.
Other pharmacy friends are overworked and getting sick from overworking long hours.

My friends are grieving the loss of parents this Christmas season...
Some are wondering if the other half of their sense of smell will come back and others wondering if they can lose the oxygen tank they are married to.
It's not fun and games. But go ahead and play games in your head to license poor behavior...
 
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Close to home here. Many, many have it. While I believe it was a created, stronger strain of the virus for political purposes, it definitely is not fake.
 
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An epidemic is local death and devastation. A pandemic is worldwide death and devastation.
So then... Is this a pandemic from what i see... Lets go through the list...

1* Im still yet to meet one person who has even had covid... I've asked everyone if they know anyone any none of them do

2* They tried to tell us this lie. Our hospitals were never overrun

3* The mortality rate is lower than in previous years. Flu deaths went down to zero.

4* Speaks for itself... Fear, fear, fear is the tactic being employed...

5* One of my faves... Independent fact checkers censoring professionals, labelling their opinions as "misinformation"... Is this science now... We seem to have become the Soviet Union overnight and most people are cool with it...

What is the occupation of the main character in 1984? He was a fact checker, wasn't he? Iv been meaning to watch that movie again recently... I think he was a fact checker and this world is looking more like that film... They are at war with an invisible enemy that their government perpetuates as the narrative, similar to covid... Big brother is watching and 2+2 is starting to look more like it equals 5.

6* $$$ Big Pharma $$$

7* As we have seen

8* As we have seen

9* LoL... How silly... As we have seen again...

Conclusion...
There is no kind of epidemic in Australia therefore there is no world wide pandemic...

Excellent presentation. I doubt will believe the table you presented; they are too conditioned mate. Cannot yet through to them anymore. It's a lost cause. As their defense, they will keep parroting the lies from the MSM, the so-called fact checks and the hospital fudged figures that are mostly rigged to look like we have a pandemic...and of course the case, the case, let's not forget the cases. Many think that these fake cases alone mean we are in pandemic. This is the 3rd false pandemic announced by these same scum since the 1970s. And now people have bougt into this 3rd fake event. God help us..

If there was a REAL pandemic people will be in a constant panic mode as they see their friends and family sick and even dying.....unreal..they are not in my world.

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Brag all you want about having Covid-19 under control there but here all my friends have been seriously hurt and sick by this. Several have lost loved ones by this virus.

The hospitals here are overrun with coronavirus cases and the 2 new floors I built last year of ICU beds are full.

Nurses I know are working extra shifts with lots of overtime because of the nursing shortages...others are sick at home wondering if they will be able to taste and smell again.
Other pharmacy friends are overworked and getting sick from overworking long hours.

My friends are grieving the loss of parents this Christmas season...
Some are wondering if the other half of their sense of smell will come back and others wondering if they can lose the oxygen tank they are married to.
It's not fun and games. But go ahead and play games in your head to license poor behavior...
All your friends, I doubt it. I don't believe you. What are they all over 75 years old?
 
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All your friends, I doubt it. I don't believe you. What are they all over 75 years old?
No...30-40+
All with kids.
Just because they didn't die themselves doesn't mean that they weren't hurt or permanently harmed by this...

Just go away! I don't need to hear from you right now.
 

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No...30-40+
All with kids.
Just because they didn't die themselves doesn't mean that they weren't hurt or permanently harmed by this...

Just go away! I don't need to hear from you right now.
Now we are getting somewhere. Not dead then..I did not think so..What permanent hurt do they have then?
 

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I have many, many friends that have it from my church. In their 30's and 40's. A few have a hard time ca DDT ching their breath, but their grandparent died, because of not being strong enough to fight it. He already lost his wife a few weeks back (from old age), but it dedinitely contributed. Pastor's wife in her 50's...she is finally in the clear, and tested negative, but definitely still in recovery. Nastu bug.

I am so very sorry for doubting it as reality at first. Just so much politics and dissension. And our county wasn't hit hard until recently.

I am glad I didn't speak too much about my doubt on it, and followed the laws Indiana set, but it was a wake up call. I may not understand or believe certain things like masks helping, but if it brings comfort to those around me during this time, I want to help how I can.
 
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We had a 41 year old die at the weekend, he had just returned back to work when he got the virus. He was healthy and kept fit. He was so scared when he knew he had to go to the hospital because of his breathing, everyone reassured him that he would be able to fight it off because he wasn’t old.
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Data Shows Fears of Overwhelmed Medical System Overblown, Ample Hospital Capacity Nationwide
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According to federal government data reported by Just The News, hospitals nationwide have ‘considerable space left to deal with both routine medical issues and COVID-19 patients,” dispelling fears of overwhelmed medical systems and at-capacity hospitals which have been promoted by the usual media suspects.

For most of 2020, rising positive test results of COVID-19 have brought with them fears of swamped hospitals, overwhelmed medical systems, emergency patients being turned away, and COVID-19 patients being triaged, suffering and dying in hallways and vestibules.


Much of that fear crystallized in the early stages of the pandemic, when parts of the northern Italian medical system were put under significant strain due to a crush of COVID-19 patients. In response, leaders and medical officials around the world suspended elective surgeries and constructed emergency medical facilities to cope with anticipated waves of COVID-19 patients. –Just The News

Yet, many care facilities which beefed up resources for a flood of COVID-19 patients have been virtual ghost towns – with some being shuttered for a lack of patients despite millions of dollars devoted to their construction. In Chicago, the city spent $120 million on four facilities which have treated a total of 38 patients.

But what about the second wave?

With ‘flu’ season entering historically high gear and some facilities across the country reporting difficulty accommodating a large influx of patients due to a dwindling number of beds or scarce resources, federal government data compiled at the state level suggests these reports are largely outliers, and the US has ample space to deal with COVID-19 patients.

The Department of Health and Human Services offers on its website estimates of hospitalization rates across the United States. The data, the department says, is “estimated from hospital submissions, either reported through their state or reported through HHS Protect,” which the department describes as “a secure data ecosystem … for sharing, parsing, housing, and accessing COVID-19 data.” (HHS did not respond to queries about any limitations or caveats to the data.)

The HHS numbers belie forecasts of impending collapse of the U.S. medical system. As of Saturday, the department estimated that hospitals nationwide were at about 75% capacity. ICU beds were even lower, at 63.5%. Patients who had tested positive for COVID-19 occupied just under 15% of all beds nationwide.


Even in areas that have recently posted huge surges in positive COVID tests, the numbers were largely similar to the national average: In New York, 76% of hospital beds (and 61% of ICU beds) were taken.

In California, where positive test results have skyrocketed, 76% of inpatient beds were likewise filled (though the ICU numbers were notably higher than New York’s, at 79%).

Ohio, which has also seen a surge in positive tests over the last few months, has 71% of inpatient beds taken, and 77% of ICU beds. –Just The News

This is normal

According to Dr. Joanne Roberts, Chief Value Officer at Providence St. Joseph Health System, “a well-functioning hospital probably runs about 85% capacity on an average day,” though she notes that COVID-19 can “quickly overwhelm that last 15%” because of how virulent it is, which can in turn send a flood of patients to the hospital at once.

“We’ve spent a whole lot of energy decreasing the other number of patients as we possibly can,” said Roberts, who coordinates the St. Joseph’s 51 constituent hospitals across seven states. “trying to do hospital-at-home models, stopping non-urgent procedures that require ICU space. You can’t stop emergency. But you can stop some things that are coming into the hospital, say, a knee replacement.”

“It’s a dance that every one of our hospitals is doing today,” she added. “Some are still doing elective procedures, some are not. Because governors have allowed our hospitals to figure that out, we are seeing our hospitals figure that out themselves.”

That said, Roberts says none of their 51 hospitals are turning patients away at this time.

“What we have done is we’ve done some creative bed usage,” she told Just The News‘ Daniel Payne. “We’ve done some agreements with smaller hospitals that they would send some surgical cases to us in our larger hospitals, and once the patient was stable after surgery, we’d send them back to recover in the smaller hospital.”
 

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Brag all you want about having Covid-19 under control there but here all my friends have been seriously hurt and sick by this. Several have lost loved ones by this virus.

The hospitals here are overrun with coronavirus cases and the 2 new floors I built last year of ICU beds are full.

Nurses I know are working extra shifts with lots of overtime because of the nursing shortages...others are sick at home wondering if they will be able to taste and smell again.
Other pharmacy friends are overworked and getting sick from overworking long hours.

My friends are grieving the loss of parents this Christmas season...
Some are wondering if the other half of their sense of smell will come back and others wondering if they can lose the oxygen tank they are married to.
It's not fun and games. But go ahead and play games in your head to license poor behavior...

You seem to be missing the point im making... Its not a pandemic... There is no worldwide death and devastation
 
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You seem to be missing the point im making... Its not a pandemic... There is no worldwide death and devastation
So my friends who tell me they lost parents, aunt's, uncle's and brothers and sisters to this disease are all liars?

Sell that crap to someone else
 

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All your friends, I doubt it. I don't believe you. What are they all over 75 years old?

The biggest problem IMHO, is the erroneous inflated gazillions of death certificates naming Covid as the actual cause of death. I do believe people can die of complications of this, just like the flu. Lies, lies and more lies. Bad things are being ushered in so, let's get to banding together in the Name of Christ, and pray that we will all have the strength and faith to face what will come our way one day. It's not like we weren't warned AND given all we need to fight against all evil!
 

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The biggest problem IMHO, is the erroneous inflated gazillions of death certificates naming Covid as the actual cause of death. I do believe people can die of complications of this, just like the flu. Lies, lies and more lies. Bad things are being ushered in so, let's get to banding together in the Name of Christ, and pray that we will all have the strength and faith to face what will come our way one day. It's not like we weren't warned AND given all we need to fight against all evil!

There was a Doctor on a non Covid ward and he checked on his patients making rounds. The next day he made his rounds and on every patients chart was written Covid. The Admin of the hospital told him that he did it so they could get more money and the Admin told the Doctor not to squeal. The Doctor did and last I heard the Admin was punished. The point being that there have been lie upon lie about all this. As I posted in another thread here:

Bishop Irenei, Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia – Diocese of Great Britain and Western Europe, had this to say about fear:

This world has shown, in these past few months, what really governs it — and it is not wisdom or compassion, or science, or truth. It is fear… Man has grown accustomed to being afraid — of everything. And society considers it second-nature now to live according to this fear: states and governments announce what we are to be afraid of, alter our modes of life based on frightened responses to that fear; and as soon as one momentary fear ceases to grip us entirely, another is provided to replace it… And it is grounded, ultimately, in the one fear that a society without God cannot overcome: the fear of death.

It’s not just fear of death that has people hiding at home, it is also the fear of not conforming to and thus being judged by this world, perhaps literally in a court of law for COVID mandate violations. As one college student told us recently, “Wear the mask and keep your opinions to yourself. Don’t draw attention, or you will labeled a bad person who doesn’t care about others. You can end up on probation or being expelled for what you say or do in front of the wrong person.” There is enormous societal pressure to act afraid even if you aren’t – accept the restrictions, stay home, don’t live your life, and don’t complain or way worse things than just catching a virus could happen to you.
Faith Over Fear – Apostolic Boldness in the Age of COVID
 
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There was a Doctor on a non Covid ward and he checked on his patients making rounds. The next day he made his rounds and on every patients chart was written Covid. The Admin of the hospital told him that he did it so they could get more money and the Admin told the Doctor not to squeal. The Doctor did and last I heard the Admin was punished. The point being that there have been lie upon lie about all this. As I posted in another thread here:

Bishop Irenei, Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia – Diocese of Great Britain and Western Europe, had this to say about fear:

This world has shown, in these past few months, what really governs it — and it is not wisdom or compassion, or science, or truth. It is fear… Man has grown accustomed to being afraid — of everything. And society considers it second-nature now to live according to this fear: states and governments announce what we are to be afraid of, alter our modes of life based on frightened responses to that fear; and as soon as one momentary fear ceases to grip us entirely, another is provided to replace it… And it is grounded, ultimately, in the one fear that a society without God cannot overcome: the fear of death.

It’s not just fear of death that has people hiding at home, it is also the fear of not conforming to and thus being judged by this world, perhaps literally in a court of law for COVID mandate violations. As one college student told us recently, “Wear the mask and keep your opinions to yourself. Don’t draw attention, or you will labeled a bad person who doesn’t care about others. You can end up on probation or being expelled for what you say or do in front of the wrong person.” There is enormous societal pressure to act afraid even if you aren’t – accept the restrictions, stay home, don’t live your life, and don’t complain or way worse things than just catching a virus could happen to you.
Faith Over Fear – Apostolic Boldness in the Age of COVID

"Faith Over Fear". Lol...my niece bought me a t shirt with this saying on it a couple months ago! :D
And yes for sure...FEAR which will in turn become control, and even that will be welcomed by many. It's mind blowing to look back and then forward up to today and actually SEE how we have all been so manipulated. What bothers me most is that, there are very many Christians that are caught up in things seemingly innocent. God help us, and give us discernment!
 

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So my friends who tell me they lost parents, aunt's, uncle's and brothers and sisters to this disease are all liars?

Sell that crap to someone else

That's not what i said... :rolleyes:
Epidemic = Local
Pandemic = Global
There is no covid here therefore its not a pandemic...
 

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An epidemic is local death and devastation. A pandemic is worldwide death and devastation.
So then... Is this a pandemic from what i see... Lets go through the list...

1* Im still yet to meet one person who has even had covid... I've asked everyone if they know anyone any none of them do

2* They tried to tell us this lie. Our hospitals were never overrun

3* The mortality rate is lower than in previous years. Flu deaths went down to zero.

4* Speaks for itself... Fear, fear, fear is the tactic being employed...

5* One of my faves... Independent fact checkers censoring professionals, labelling their opinions as "misinformation"... Is this science now... We seem to have become the Soviet Union overnight and most people are cool with it...

What is the occupation of the main character in 1984? He was a fact checker, wasn't he? Iv been meaning to watch that movie again recently... I think he was a fact checker and this world is looking more like that film... They are at war with an invisible enemy that their government perpetuates as the narrative, similar to covid... Big brother is watching and 2+2 is starting to look more like it equals 5.

6* $$$ Big Pharma $$$

7* As we have seen

8* As we have seen

9* LoL... How silly... As we have seen again...

Conclusion...
There is no kind of epidemic in Australia therefore there is no world wide pandemic...
Hey, mate, I agree—THERE IS NO PANDEMIC.
 
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So my friends who tell me they lost parents, aunt's, uncle's and brothers and sisters to this disease are all liars?

Sell that crap to someone else
Haven’t you heard doctors saying that they are told to put COVID as the cause of death because the hospitals get more money? They are being paid to lie.
 

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The hospitals here are overrun with coronavirus cases and the 2 new floors I built last year of ICU beds are full.
And yet at the height of the panic, Trump sent Navy hospital ships post-haste to New York and Los Angeles, and they sat there virtually empty. And the field hospital which was set up in Seattle had to be dismantled, since there were no patients to care for. The field hospital set up by Samaritan's Purse in New York was also dismantled.

Which means that the general public is being CONNED by the public health officials as well as many doctors. Indeed, the American Medical Association BLOCKED the prescription of HCQ for Wuhan virus early this year even though it is a proven remedy as a combo pack. Just recently they were going to re-consider their evil sabotage of HCQ, but blocked it again. So any time that the public health people and the AMA are telling the public that there is a pandemic while blocking the treatment, it means that there is a CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY afoot.
 
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