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Ye their assuming the vax will pass the rushed trials so they've started manufacturing the vax.
50% efficacy, 95% efficacy... The immune system of a 40 year old is 99.95% effective so why would i want the vax...
It would be good to hear about how safe it is... Is it 90% safe, 95%... They won't say... All they say is that "it's safe"... Ye sure
Everyone who won't take the vax are going to be discriminated against, demonized, persecuted, prosecuted and incarcerated...
If they remove themselves from the gene pool because they didn't get vaccinated and they had no reason not to except conspiracy theory nonsense...they won the Darwin Award.[/QUOT
What on earth are you talking about?it saddens me to see such a harden heart on a christian board,
If they remove themselves from the gene pool because they didn't get vaccinated and they had no reason not to except conspiracy theory nonsense...they won the Darwin Award.
Moderna's mRNA vaccine is >95% effective
The site wont let me post a video . But a lady did some serious research
and she found out what was really in the vaccine .
AND OH YES it violates our religious beliefs . I aint touching the wicked nasty thing .
I wish i could send you the video , i cant even pm the thing . But oh yes she did her homework .
But when someone is adamant that they wish to do something to kill themselves....what do you expect?
OH its gonna get worse my friend . soon it wont just be words and insults , but real persecution is on the way .
Here is a list of vaccines that contain aborted fetal cells and those that don't
https://cogforlife.org/wp-content/uploads/CovidCompareMoralImmoral.pdf
Here Are All the Side Effects of Every Top COVID-19 Vaccine in US
Moderna: chills, fevers, headache, shortness of breath, pain in the arm
Pfizer: fever, fatigue, chills, redness and swelling
AstraZeneca: neurological disorder
Johnson & Johnson: unexplained illness
Here Are All the Side Effects of Every Top COVID-19 Vaccine in US
The Long Shadow of the 1976 Swine Flu Vaccine 'Fiasco' | Smart News | Smithsonian Magazine
Adding to this subject of yours, are some facts that folks usually just brush by....and they need to know..
1. Efficacy is how well a design or product, in this case a vaccine, performs under ideal laboratory conditions where the qualification passage measurements / criteria are set to meet expectations already agreed upon in advance...yes it is money and politically driven ALL THE WAY. So, the CDC says it requires a min. of 50% efficacy of a specific type of vaccine. You don't know what are the benchmarks or qualification levels. They could be tight or very loose to say 50% efficacy was met or not.
So today, these vaccine companies all skyte and say they have over 90% efficacy by their vaccines, and you don't know how stringent or relaxed their passing criteria was set to say it was for example 94%. It's like saying you got 90% on an exam because it was modified and graded under a generous curve. In reality though your RAW grade/score was 45%, and yours was the highest score in the class.
2. Effectiveness of the vaccine is when this same exact product or vaccine used to measure it efficacy, is now applied or is used on people in real world conditions. The effectiveness cannot be measure so quickly as with efficacy. It takes many many months and even years...So no one should be talking about EFFECTIVENESS at all....if vaccine companies spout out percentages of effectiveness today, they are surely lying to you and the public.
3. Both efficacy and effectiveness figures used and defined by these vaccine companies and even the CDC are used for their own benefit, gain and self-interest...they DO NOT care about your overall health as they do not take into consideration the side effects of these administered vaccines over time......you are on your own...that's why the governments has a bundle of dough set aside for lawsuits....the company is always IMMUNE from any lawsuit, in the US since the 1980s..., the gov is the one sued as their shield and protection...
4. The gov/ CDC and vaccine companies are not too quick to tell you that most of these messenger RNA vaccines require at least a double dose regiment.
The Pfizer vaccine requires two doses, taken 3 weeks apart.....that's why so many doses are being ramped up all at once...
just saying...know what the CDC/Gov and these vaccine companies are spewing out in public....
APAK
The numbers aren't in yet for the AstraZeneca vaccine... you have no idea how effective it is yet. When they make a report we will know but not until.For the 5th time, we aren't doing that vaccine here... Their gonna vax rape us with the AstraZeneca vax... 50% efficacy
Would you buy a car that had brakes that were 95% effective... Would you get on a plane that was 95% effective...
No one would accept that yet we're supposed to just shut up and take a risk..
In engineering we operate at a safe working factor of 2.5. That means something that is rated for 100 tons can withstand 250 tons
Worse case scenario these vaccines kill everyone after a few years, sending mankind to the brink of extinction
There are a lot more reason than conspiracy theory, there is the fact that there have been lies from the very beginning Doctors say don't do this and than do this. The authorities don't know and refuse to be honest. You should not assume people are idiots because they are scared and concerned. None of us should act elitist.
You should be give the benefit since no one knows the real truth. I know your in a bad way with your friend but now your judgement is clouded by that experience which is understandable, mine would be too. You even have stars in your eyes about the vaccine that it is a magic cure all for covid and even the scientist say the virus is not a cure all for covid. We may want a cure but short of God doing a miracle we may not get one complete cure.
A Doctor Doctor on Pfizer vaccine: 'Not sure this one is the game winner'
My hypothesis is that this is the new flu type thing where we will get a handle on it but have to get a shot every so often.
The numbers aren't in yet for the AstraZeneca vaccine... you have no idea how effective it is yet. When they make a report we will know but not until.
Why on earth are you calling this thread ‘ Trump vaccine is coming ‘ - sorry but he didn’t develop the vaccine, any of them. It would be like calling the vaccine that is coming out of Oxford ‘ Boris Johnson Vaccine. It the scientists that have developed the vaccines.
Personally my own concern is that it has now become a race to be the ‘ First ‘ to start rolling out the vaccine and actually using it. To become ‘ the one ‘ that wins the race. So everything just seems too rushed for me.
I work in a care home and so far have never been ‘ ordered ‘ or ‘ required ‘ to take any vaccine In order to work. I do know that it’s likely to change and right now haven’t got a clue what I will do. However it’s not just Christians that don’t want the vaccine, quite a high number of my work colleagues feel the same way.
Guess some of us will have to make decisions a lot sooner than others. Rita
We shouldn’t really need to have ‘ baits ‘ on a Christian forum, but if it was one, yes I fell for it. We have had COVID in the care home for the past month. I am three years from retirement but cannot make myself out of work. We were coming through the initially outbreak when a career returned to work from isolation. Her husband had it. She took the 14days. She had a test prior to returning, management didn’t wait for the test result. She came into work on Friday , on Saturday her test returned positive. I was working in the same area as her, but not closely. She was on our first floor that had not been impacted by the initial outbreak. So we now have to play the waiting game all over again. Interesting times !I think the title was a bit of bait... Trump hasn't even been mentioned yet... I think u took the bait...
But howz it going up there? Have u considered the possibility that you might be too much at risk in that job Rita?
U know what im saying... Let the young ones do it... Their far less at risk... Then ud have no income...
I dunno id just be so sad if u were to get covid badly...
But we just have to do what we have to do to make ends meet...