What is the purpose of : Evil

[Behold]

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All "sin" is the fruit of rebellion, that has its origin's on earth regarding the 2 who rebelled against God and by submitting to the Devil's LIE, they gave away their relationship with God, and the Devil ended up with their dominion power.

The purpose of evil is to "steal, kill, and destroy".

Now, use that concept as the purpose, and look at the recent shooting of those kids and the teachers.
Also,
Look at what sinning does, and has done to your LIFE and to all the lives of everyone...

Evil Lust, is the heart of Satan, and Sin is His Nature. Deception is his power.
If there was no DEVIL, there would be no EVIL or SIN, in this world.

Let me be specific.......the core lust of Evil, is to destroy innocence.
See, innocence, is the closest thing to holiness that man has, as a person., until they receive "the righteousness of God".
How long did you remain innocent before you started to enjoy sin?
Did you even make it to 10 or 12 yrs old?

How did Satan harm you?
He caused you to lose you innocence and become WORLDLY. Lustful... Greedy... Selfish.
'lust of the Eye"....>"living for a feeling"...."sinning feels GOOD"...""everybody Party'".

"Worldly" : is to become UnGodly., and that is why we are warned "to be in the world but not of it".
And that verse is not talking about walking around on the planet in bare feet looking at Nature.
Its talking about not being "OF", "the World"......and that is "LIKE the DEVIL."
And who is like the Devil?
All of us, before we are born again.
Jesus said of us all......."you are OF your Father THE DEVIL and the LUSTS of YOUR FATHER, you will Do".

See that?

That is every Unbeliever, doing that, right now......not understanding that the reason they LOVE TO SIN , is because their Father loves it, and they have his "fallen" Nature.
To end that, to stop having Satan's nature, .... "you must be born again", so that GOD comes to live in you, and He becomes your Heavenly FATHER.
He wasn't before you were born again...
And if you are not born again, but you are water baptized thinking you are....then He isn't your Father right now, and i just showed you who your Father is, and will remain,.. until by NEW BIRTH in THE SPIRIT = you Change FATHERS....

See it?

" You MUST BE = Born Again".

 

[GodsGrace]

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All "sin" is the fruit of rebellion, that has its origin's on earth regarding the 2 who rebelled against God and by submitting to the Devil's LIE, they gave away their relationship with God, and the Devil ended up with their dominion power.

The purpose of evil is to "steal, kill, and destroy".

Now, use that concept as the purpose, and look at the recent shooting of those kids and the teachers.
Also,
Look at what sinning does, and has done to your LIFE and to all the lives of everyone...

Evil Lust, is the heart of Satan, and Sin is His Nature. Deception is his power.
If there was no DEVIL, there would be no EVIL or SIN, in this world.

Let me be specific.......the core lust of Evil, is to destroy innocence.
See, innocence, is the closest thing to holiness that man has, as a person., until they receive "the righteousness of God".
How long did you remain innocent before you started to enjoy sin?
Did you even make it to 10 or 12 yrs old?

How did Satan harm you?
He caused you to lose you innocence and become WORLDLY. Lustful... Greedy... Selfish.
'lust of the Eye"....>"living for a feeling"...."sinning feels GOOD"...""everybody Party'".

"Worldly" : is to become UnGodly., and that is why we are warned "to be in the world but not of it".
And that verse is not talking about walking around on the planet in bare feet looking at Nature.
Its talking about not being "OF", "the World"......and that is "LIKE the DEVIL."
And who is like the Devil?
All of us, before we are born again.
Jesus said of us all......."you are OF your Father THE DEVIL and the LUSTS of YOUR FATHER, you will Do".

See that?

That is every Unbeliever, doing that, right now......not understanding that the reason they LOVE TO SIN , is because their Father loves it, and they have his "fallen" Nature.
To end that, to stop having Satan's nature, .... "you must be born again", so that GOD comes to live in you, and He becomes your Heavenly FATHER.
He wasn't before you were born again...
And if you are not born again, but you are water baptized thinking you are....then He isn't your Father right now, and i just showed you who your Father is, and will remain,.. until by NEW BIRTH in THE SPIRIT = you Change FATHERS....

See it?

" You MUST BE = Born Again".

That explains evil.

But why did Adam sin if sin hadn't entered the Garden yet?

 

[Behold]

That explains evil.

But why did Adam sin if sin hadn't entered the Garden yet?

"where there is no LAW, = there is no transgression".

This is true.
So, there was no "Moses law or 10 commandments"...in the Garden of Eden.......but, there was the word of God, that had presented Adam and Eve with a boundary, and that word of God is a command. And they broke God's command. That is Rebellion, and rebellion is as witchcraft, and is what was found in Lucifer........named "iniquity".
See, there was no Moses Law in Heaven, and "iniquity was found in LUCIFER">.......Satan.......The devil.

Adam and Eve broke God's command because Satan's deception is very strong and it always appeals to our FLESH.
He convinced Eve that God's word was "Hath God said"......In other words Satan questioned God's word, implying that maybe it was not exactly like God has said it, which is to Question God's honesty and authority.
Isn't that just like the Devil?
He has his people doing the same on Forums like this one, everyday.

Now i'll show you something evil.
Many NEW = BIBLEs.
What Satan has done, is ... he has watered down the word, by creating so many versions that contradict each other, often, by OMITTING very important words........so that the meaning and the truth and the DOCTRINE, is watered down, and fuzzy, and vague, or even missing.
This causes CONFUSION, and "where confusion is found, there is every type of evil work".
When bibles dont say the same thing, = CONFUSION. And the devil is the "Author of CONFUSiON".
That is Satan, creating "Hath God said", using "new" bibles, to CONFUSE the body of Christ.

Its a fact that I can preach to a group, and they can have a new bible that does not have the verse in it, that im preaching.
Or it will be intentionally missing a context WORD, that is the core of the verse, = so that the verse is dumbed down, and doctrinally destroyed.

Let me show you an example.

The Theology of the Deity of Christ. This is very important. So, the Devil wants to hide it. And what he has done, ... is, he has enlisted "deity of Christ" rejectors....who do not believe that Jesus is God manifested in the flesh... And they have created many "new" Bibles and in them most of the verses that contain PROOF of the Deity of Christ, are rewritten, or even omitted.
So, when a believer or what is worse .. when a Denomination uses this corrupted JUNK "bible", as their usual bible, then they are misled by the bible into rejecting a Doctrine that should be there, and not just that one.

Let say you had never heard that Jesus is God.
You've never heard anything about this... before.
So, you pick up a REAL bible and it says...>"GOD was manifested in the Flesh".....and you realize instantly that this is the Virgin born Jesus.
So, that REAL bible has shown you a doctrine, and a truth.

But lets say, you grab a bible that says.....>"HE, was manifested in the Flesh"......... where "GOD" is removed, and "HE" is inserted in the verse, which destroys the DOCTRINE of "GOD" and "CHRIST"< = Deity of Christ.

So, a person reads...>"HE, was manifested in the FLESH, and they think ...>"HE WHO"....>who is "HE"....and the Devil smiles as he has just kept them from the TRUTH.
Well, if you KNOW, then that's one thing....but if you dont yet know about the Deity of Christ, ...then that verse that would have shown you GOD as the Virgin Born CHRIST, has instead hidden this truth from you.

The Devil is very clever.
And since the Garden, he has always found a way to try to replace God with a Religion, The Cross with self effort, or God's Holy word with a fake "bible".

 

[Bible Highlighter]

That explains evil.

But why did Adam sin if sin hadn't entered the Garden yet?

Eve first sinned because she was enticed by the lust of the fruit and she was deceived by the serpent (the devil).
As for Adam: Scripture says that Adam tries to explain to God why he ate of the wrong tree because it was the creation of the woman that God gave to him whereby she gave him the fruit for him to eat. So there is a bit of a mystery there in why Adam sinned. One possibility is: Adam probably trusted her and loved her. Adam was one flesh with her. They did things together as a unit because they were one flesh. Adam might have been afraid of losing her.

But ultimately the existence of evil comes down to free will choice. It’s purpose is to show forth true love. For unless we can make the wrong choice, we would never truly appreciate in making the correct choice. For by our old life of sin, we can see the destructive nature of sin and it’s bad effects upon our life. But by making the right choices that God wants us to make in life, we overcome evil and we truly appreciate the good. This is why Scripture tells us to overcome evil with good. This is why we are told to pray so as not to enter into temptation. In the Garden: The disciples were told to stay awake and pray so as not to enter into temptation. Jesus said the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. So we need GOD. God can give us new hearts, and change us, and God can protect us from evil temptations that could make us to stumble. Only can our knowing of what is truly good by knowing the Lord and His goodness can we truly appreciate it (by comparing it to the unsatisfying ways of darkness). Sin is a hollow pleasure, but doing that which is good by the Lord when we abide in Him is an everlasting satisfaction and rest for our souls. The purpose of evil is to choose the good and to truly value that which is good (Which is GOD or the Lord Jesus Christ). For the more one abides with the Lord and His good ways, they don’t want the darkness of their old life of sin anymore. They just want Jesus and His goodness (or good ways). Another purpose I see behind the existence of evil is that God’s goodness and love is magnified over it. The whole Bible is about God the Father gaining victory over sin and death (darkness) by the death, burial, and resurrection of His Son Jesus Christ. Through Jesus (second person of the triune Godhead), we have life and freedom, and forgiveness. Whereas our being in Adam we were all dead in trespasses and sin and bondage. Through Jesus, we are given new life, a new start, a new beginning with GOD. So the purpose of evil is for God to conquer it, and for GOD to get all the glory in His victory over sin and or evil in this world. GOD is capable of working a bad sinful situation and turn it around for good. GOD did it with Joseph’s brothers, and He did it with the Savior when sinful men intended to win over good by crucifying the Lord of glory. Little did they realize that GOD was gaining the victory by Christ’s sacrifice. Evil was being conquered. But if there is no evil, then it cannot be conquered.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

In other words, the purpose of evil is to show our need for GOD, and to trust and rely upon Him, and not our own ways. The other reason is that GOD is glorified over evil in that He conquers it with His goodness and love, and His almighty powerful nature. God who is love is magnified in a dark and dying world. God’s good ways are glorified and they shine forth rays of hope to those who truly are willing to play ball on His terms and not their own.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

There are many who believe they can turn God’s grace into a license for immorality on some level. They believe they can sin and still be saved all because they have a belief alone in Jesus. They think any self effort on our part to do good is wrong and evil. Up is down, and down is up. They have things backwards. Yes, we need to first be saved by God’s grace before we can obey God’s commands in living a holy life by the Spirit, but His grace is not a license to do evil or wrong on any level. Many today are out to deceive and they think you can act like the devil and be okay with GOD. But one of the first lies in the garden by the serpent was to convince Eve in that she could break God’s command and she would not die. This same lie is being pushed today by many churches far and wide. Evil appears to reign in this world, even amongst those who claim to be for GOD. But God knows there are a few who do truly want to follow Him, and His good ways. For narrow is the way that leads unto life and few be there that find it. In the end, evil will be put down for good by the LORD. But we must walk by faith in what God’s Word says and not follow the dark, and evil ways of this world or those in the church who would have us believe that we can do evil so that good may come.

 

[Robert Gwin]

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All "sin" is the fruit of rebellion, that has its origin's on earth regarding the 2 who rebelled against God and by submitting to the Devil's LIE, they gave away their relationship with God, and the Devil ended up with their dominion power.

The purpose of evil is to "steal, kill, and destroy".

Now, use that concept as the purpose, and look at the recent shooting of those kids and the teachers.
Also,
Look at what sinning does, and has done to your LIFE and to all the lives of everyone...

Evil Lust, is the heart of Satan, and Sin is His Nature. Deception is his power.
If there was no DEVIL, there would be no EVIL or SIN, in this world.

Let me be specific.......the core lust of Evil, is to destroy innocence.
See, innocence, is the closest thing to holiness that man has, as a person., until they receive "the righteousness of God".
How long did you remain innocent before you started to enjoy sin?
Did you even make it to 10 or 12 yrs old?

How did Satan harm you?
He caused you to lose you innocence and become WORLDLY. Lustful... Greedy... Selfish.
'lust of the Eye"....>"living for a feeling"...."sinning feels GOOD"...""everybody Party'".

"Worldly" : is to become UnGodly., and that is why we are warned "to be in the world but not of it".
And that verse is not talking about walking around on the planet in bare feet looking at Nature.
Its talking about not being "OF", "the World"......and that is "LIKE the DEVIL."
And who is like the Devil?
All of us, before we are born again.
Jesus said of us all......."you are OF your Father THE DEVIL and the LUSTS of YOUR FATHER, you will Do".

See that?

That is every Unbeliever, doing that, right now......not understanding that the reason they LOVE TO SIN , is because their Father loves it, and they have his "fallen" Nature.
To end that, to stop having Satan's nature, .... "you must be born again", so that GOD comes to live in you, and He becomes your Heavenly FATHER.
He wasn't before you were born again...
And if you are not born again, but you are water baptized thinking you are....then He isn't your Father right now, and i just showed you who your Father is, and will remain,.. until by NEW BIRTH in THE SPIRIT = you Change FATHERS....

See it?

" You MUST BE = Born Again".

No purpose in it, but it can be beneficial. Evil was a result of sin, and Jehovah wisely chose to let us live as our own god to see where it heads, then when we face the final test of whether we will side with satan or Jehovah, we will remember the type of world we had under satans regime.

 

[Behold]

But ultimately the existence of evil comes down to free will choice.

Lucifer make that choice in Heaven.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

No purpose in it, but it can be beneficial. Evil was a result of sin, and Jehovah wisely chose to let us live as our own god to see where it heads, then when we face the final test of whether we will side with satan or Jehovah, we will remember the type of world we had under satans regime.

I would say that is not true. God used evil or sinful actions of men as a part of the cross. The cross is the most glorious point of the whole Bible. Without any evil, this event would not have happened, and yet the death of our Savior by the hands of sinful men is the most beautiful truth and most magnified by Christians. Even the evil that Joseph’s brothers did against Joseph, God had a greater plan for good for it in the end. I believe that without evil in this world, we would not truly appreciate the light or the goodness of God. God could have created a world whereby it was not possible for us to commit evil or sin, but God in His Wisdom allowed for it for greater plan for good in the end. God’s love, and goodness is magnified by our knowing about evil. God conquerors and or gains victory over evil and that is the great and majestic thing about our God. Granted, I am not condoning evil by any means. I believe Christians should overcome sin in this life. But the point here is that GOD permitted evil for no purpose or reason (as you post suggests).

 

[Behold]

I believe that without evil in this world, we would not truly appreciate the light or the goodness of God. .

If there was no "evil' in the world, then there would be no murder, rape, incest, pedophilia, lying, cheating, stealing, hatered, bigotry, selfishness, .....or any TEARS of pain, grief, regret, and loss.

That is what "evil" offers this world, by causing it.

"evil" being the nature of the Devil, born into every person, born.
Men cause the evil, but its the evil heart and mind in them, that is the problem.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

If there was no "evil' in the world, then there would be no murder, rape, incest, pedophilia, lying, cheating, stealing, hatered, bigotry, selfishness, .....or any TEARS of pain, grief, regret, and loss.

That is what "evil" offers this world, by causing it.

"evil" being the nature of the Devil, born into every person, born.
Men cause the evil, but its the evil heart and mind in them, that is the problem.

Again, God permitted evil to exist in this world and we clearly see that men sinned by unjustly crucifying the Savior. But what looked like something horrible from the general observer (Christ’s trial, and crucification), it was the greatest loving act GOD was putting forth behind the scenes. God was saving mankind when Christ was crucified by sinful men unjustly. God’s goodness and love is magnified out of the darkness. This is the greatest act in Bible history. It would not exist if it was not for God permitting the darkness. In other words, if GOD did not permit men to sin or do evil, then GOD’s love would not have been magnified at the cross. While GOD does not condone sin, He did permit it for a greater plan for good.

This is how I see the purpose behind the existence of evil. God did not make any mistakes by allowing for a universe that has evil within it. Grace would not exist if there was no darkness or sin.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Evil exists now because God is waiting for the last men to repent.
God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
So it’s God’s love that is being magnified out of the darkness.

 

[Behold]

Again, God permitted evil to exist in this world and we clearly see that men sinned by unjustly crucifying the Savior. But what looked like something horrible from the general observer (Christ’s trial, and crucification), it was the greatest loving act GOD was putting forth behind the scenes. .

Yes, im aware of the Gift of Salvation, who Hung on the Cross, for the sin of the world.

I was only responding to your odd idea that "its good that evil came, so that we can all go to the Cross".

Its NOT Good that evil came.
its NOT good that we are born into sin.
Its NOT Good that the world is EVIL.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Yes, im aware of the Gift of Salvation, who Hung on the Cross, for the sin of the world.

I was only responding to your odd idea that "its good that evil came, so that we can all go to the Cross".

Its NOT Good that evil came.
its NOT good that we are born into sin.
Its NOT Good that the world is EVIL.

I said, I quote:

“But we must walk by faith in what God’s Word says and not follow the dark, and evil ways of this world or those in the church who would have us believe that we can do evil so that good may come.” ~ Bible Highlighter.
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Notice carefully my words. I was saying those in the church who say that we can do evil that good may come. This is the “Sin and Still Be Saved Christians” that exist in the church in popularity in big numbers today (of which I do not agree with). They believe you don’t have to worry about sin, and you can even sin and be saved in your sins. But such a belief is turning God’s grace into a license for immorality (Jude 1:4).

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Yes, im aware of the Gift of Salvation, who Hung on the Cross, for the sin of the world.

I was only responding to your odd idea that "its good that evil came, so that we can all go to the Cross".

Its NOT Good that evil came.
its NOT good that we are born into sin.
Its NOT Good that the world is EVIL.

Nowhere am I suggesting that we as believers do evil so that good may come.
But God had a plan in the existence of evil and you should know that God did have the power to prevent evil from existing in our universe.
So God permitting evil in our universe was obviously a part of His greater plan for good. Permitting evil to exist does not mean God condoned such evil and neither does it mean God approved of it, either. God simply gave beings the free will to do either good or evil. So the responsibility falls on them for their choices (of which God will hold them accountable at a Judgment). But God is the One who ultimately must allow sin or evil to exist in our universe. Without sin or evil, the cross could not have happened. Do you not glory in the cross and it’s grace? If so… it would not be possible if God did not permit men to do that which is wrong. We cannot appreciate grace if we never messed up as a part of our old life (before coming to Christ). Jesus came to call sinners to repentance and not the righteous (like angels, etcetera). In the New Earth, sin and death will no longer exist anymore. Those who lived out their faith in a faithful manner throughout the history of the Earth will enjoy a place that is not tainted by sin or darkness. This will be a universe where no evil will exist anymore forever.

 

[Behold]

I said, I quote:

“But we must walk by faith in what God’s Word says and not follow the dark,​

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What you tried to prove is that its good that there is evil, as "this way we can find Jesus".

So, that is not very good reasoning.

What would be GOOD< is if Adam had not sinned, and then we are living in God's Eden, no sickness, no murder, no hatred. = NO EVIL in the world.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

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What you tried to prove is that its good that there is evil, as "this way we can find Jesus".

So, that is not very good reasoning.

What would be GOOD< is if Adam had not sinned, and then we are living in God's Eden, no sickness, no murder, no hatred. = NO EVIL in the world.

Okay. You gotta stop telling me what I believe. I know what I believe. You are merely guessing as to what I believe because you have not taken the time to truly listen or to ask questions. You have twisted what I said around to mean something else.

I mean, have you ever had somebody tell you what you believe before and that’s not what you believe? Do you know how that feels when somebody tells you what you believe?

To set the record straight:

Good would exist even if God never created a world where evil could happen or if Adam and Eve never sinned. We can deal with what ifs all you like but the fact of the matter is that GOD knew Adam and Eve were going to sin, and yet He allowed them to make their choice for evil. But that’s not the end of the story (obviously). God gave them grace as He gives freely to all of humanity. I am saying that your glorying in the cross would not be possible if it was not for sin or evil in the world. This does not mean I approve of evil or I wanted evil to happen. Nor does it mean I believe God wanted Adam and Eve to fall. Nowhere did I say anything like that. I am saying that since GOD knew Adam and Eve would fall and GOD permitted for evil to exist, GOD is capable of turning that evil around for a greater plan for good. Even the devil was used to get Judas to betray Jesus (Which helped put him on the cross) - which in turn is the salvation of all mankind.

What did I mean by the phrase do evil that good may come?
Well, it’s actually from Scripture, but I am using it a little differently.
I am using this phrase to refer to those Christians who think they can sin and still saved all because they have a belief alone in Jesus.

My statement that you took confusion over was geared towards those believers who do justify sin and evil in the church today. They believe they can do evil (they can sin) that good may come (so that they can enter Heaven). For they falsely think where sin abounds grace much more abounds. In other words, they twist this Scripture to think that the more they sin, grace will be all the more sufficient for them. They believe they can just trust in the finished work of the cross and it does not matter how you live. I do NOT agree with this false version of Christianity. That’s what I was talking about (that you don’t seem to grasp).

 

[Robert Gwin]

I would say that is not true. God used evil or sinful actions of men as a part of the cross. The cross is the most glorious point of the whole Bible. Without any evil, this event would not have happened, and yet the death of our Savior by the hands of sinful men is the most beautiful truth and most magnified by Christians. Even the evil that Joseph’s brothers did against Joseph, God had a greater plan for good for it in the end. I believe that without evil in this world, we would not truly appreciate the light or the goodness of God. God could have created a world whereby it was not possible for us to commit evil or sin, but God in His Wisdom allowed for it for greater plan for good in the end. God’s love, and goodness is magnified by our knowing about evil. God conquerors and or gains victory over evil and that is the great and majestic thing about our God. Granted, I am not condoning evil by any means. I believe Christians should overcome sin in this life. But the point here is that GOD permitted evil for no purpose or reason (as you post suggests).

Lets compare notes Bible, what do you discern happened in the Garden of Eden with the sin of Adam?

 

[Behold]

Okay. You gotta stop telling me what I believe. I know what I believe. You are merely guessing.

Listen up.
I dont "guess".
What i do, is just READ what you write.

here is what you wrote as the reason for evil to exist....

""""For unless we can make the wrong choice, we would never truly appreciate in making the correct choice.""""

So that is you point of view regarding the idea that its a good thing for evil to exist, as if it didnt then..... as you say..

""""" For unless we can make the wrong choice, we would never truly appreciate in making the correct choice.""

So, once again that is not sound reasoning.
That is bizarre reasoning.

And as i told you. Its BEST if there is NO EVIL....
Thats a fact.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Listen up.
I dont "guess".
What i do, is just READ what you write.

here is what you wrote as the reason for evil to exist....

""""For unless we can make the wrong choice, we would never truly appreciate in making the correct choice.""""

So that is you point of view regarding the idea that its a good thing for evil to exist, as if it didnt then..... as you say..

""""" For unless we can make the wrong choice, we would never truly appreciate in making the correct choice.""

So, once again that is not sound reasoning.
That is bizarre reasoning.

And as i told you. Its BEST if there is NO EVIL....
Thats a fact.

So you are an infallible human being who cannot take people’s words out of context?
Yeah, okay. I don’t believe you because you are twisting my words out of context to mean something that I did not intend.
Pop quiz: Did anyone ever tell you this before?
Can you read people’s thoughts?

Anyways, you are taking what I said out of context to the rest of what I said. I am telling you why GOD permitted evil in this universe. I am not saying God condoned evil or wanted evil to happen. I am not condoning evil or sin and nor do I desire anyone to sin or for them to make the wrong choice so they can appreciate the correct one. Neither am I saying that GOD wanted the fall to happen. I am saying that out of bad consequences, God can use that for a great plan for good. God has a way of turning things that are bad around for good. That’s what I was talking about in the quotes you have taken from me.

Believe it or not, its a fact of life that we humans learn by our mistakes in life. If things are as you say… then GOD would have prevented us from sinning since day one. GOD would have prevented Adam and Eve from sinning from day one. But obviously God allowed or permitted evil to happen. This does not mean that GOD cannot have a purpose or plan in turning the evil around for a greater plan for good. Again, do you not glory in God’s grace and the cross? You would not know about such things unless Adam and Eve had sinned. Again, I am not condoning Adam and Eve’s wrong choice. I am merely saying that in order to glory in the cross, you have to realize that men had to have fallen or do evil in order for the cross to happen and in order for us to glory in God’s grace. Again, I am not condoning evil here or approving of it. But I believe that we as humans can learn from our bad mistakes in life and appreciate the better way. For example: A drunk who destroyed his family with alcoholism can now see the better way and appreciate being sober free more and appreciate life more in a way that is better vs. if he never knew how destructive and hurtful alcoholism can be. For example: Paul was moved by God’s grace in that Jesus could forgive him for persecuting and killing the church (God’s people). Paul sinned greatly, but God was willing to forgive him based on His mercy and redemption that took place with His death, burial, and resurrection. This moved Paul in such a way to labor more than his brethren (1 Corinthians 15:10). For it was not his own labor that made him labor more but it was the grace of God. For example: The woman who could not stop kissing Jesus’ feet. The Pharisee said, “This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.” (Luke 7:39). Jesus replied:

“Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet. My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment. Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.” (Luke 7:45-47).

Again, the lesson here is that she loved more because she was forgiven of her many sins. Obviously she would not have loved on that level if it was not for her previous mistakes in life being forgiven. Again, I am not telling anyone or you to go out and sin more. Jesus said for us to sin no more (John 5:14) (John 8:11). So I am in agreement with Jesus. I am also against those believers who believe they can sin and still be saved (Which is what OSAS or Calvinism teaches).

Do you think Adam and Eve would have appreciated in not murdering, or stealing if they did not know about such things? They had no knowledge of good and evil before the Fall. But if a person’s life was destroyed by their wrong choices in life, and they sought forgiveness with GOD, they can truly value more the good life that they are leading more vs. their old life of sin that was destructive. Again, I am not telling you or anyone to go out and do evil to appreciate the good. That’s not what I am saying. Neither do I believe GOD wants us to do wrong so that we can appreciate the good more. I am saying that we can learn from our mistakes in life and value the light more because of how things currently are. It does not mean that the world of Adam and Eve would have been better if they obeyed. I am not saying that such a world would not have been better. But I am saying that we as humans can value the good more when we look and see how destructive evil can be in life. It is merely a side effect of the sin fallen world we are living in and GOD can use this in our life for our benefit just as God used Satan and sinful men to His benefit for the cross and salvation of all mankind to take place. Do you not get that? Do you not glory in the cross? Do you not glory in His grace? You could again not glory in His grace or the cross if there was no fall or if you never messed up in life. Again, I am not telling your or anyone to do wrong. I am not saying that GOD approved of anyone sinning. But you do know GOD has the power to stop anyone from sinning right? So the question is: Why does He let people sin before coming to Jesus? The question is simple. Grace. People are more prone to learn from their mistakes in life. Again, I am not saying GOD approved of anyone doing evil. I am not. Everyone is enticed and drawn away by their own lusts. So each person is responsible for their own destruction unless they change course with GOD and His grace. But you have to realize that we glory in the cross and His grace because we were fallen and sinful before, not because we were righteous before. Christ died for us while we were yet sinners. For GOD so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but shall have everlasting life.