RD,
This is what I posted:
Besides this there is a special call which, for the most part, God bestows on believers only, when by the internal illumination of the Spirit he causes the word preached to take deep root in their hearts.
Sometimes, however, he communicates it also to those whom he enlightens only for a time, and whom afterwards, in just punishment for their ingratitude, he abandons and smites with greater blindness.
Institutes of the Christian Religion
John Calvin
Book 3
Chapter 24
Paragraph 8
And above is your reply.
I believe calvinism has problems built-in the doctrine because it cannot be reconciled properly to what the N.T. teaches.
You said the above persons knew God and turned from God and God gave them over to reprobate mind.
A NON-calvinist could make that statement...but not a calvinist.
If you read what Calvin stated again, you'll find that it's GOD that made the person THINK they were saved...
and then God pulled the salvation away.
Doesn't sound like the God of the N.T., does it?
Then you say the person was being saved but was not being saved at all and then being saved by another Christ.
I've never even heard this before so the only comment I have is this:
The persons were doing exactly what God predestinated them to do.
They have NOTHING to do with their salvation...so your comments are mute.
If you read what Calvin stated again, you'll find that it's GOD that made the person THINK they were saved...
Another good one for the hopper of 'lies taught for doctrine of Christ'.
Which is why I don't read Calvin nor care one bit what He thinks, except to learn the lies of Calvin wrested from Scripture, and so more perfectly know the truth of the doctrine of Christ, by refuting them with Scripture.
And so, please continue on, since you are doing such a wonderful job, that I don't have to read Calvin's rubbish for myself: I have you instead. Thanks.
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God.
Think what you and Calvin want to think. No Scripture speaks of them that only
thought they believed.
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.
The foolish wisdom of OSAS is self evident: OSAS doesn't worship God as God, because they do not obey His law as God's law
indeed. Not only do they not
think they obey Him accordingly, they loudly proclaim how they don't...because they have been told they can't.
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
OSAS changes the incorruptible blood of the Lamb, that washes away all unrighteousness from the soul, into the corruptible blood of bulls and goats, that only covers sins, so that their souls can't be judged by God for
going on still in their unrighteous sins.
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
God lets self-confessed and willing sinners do exactly what they want, especially when they change the truth of the blood of the Lamb into the lie of a bull or goat, by worshipping creature Calvin's
thinking more than Creator Christ's Scriptures.
Then you say the person was being saved but was not being saved at all and then being saved by another Christ.
I've never even heard this before.
Of course not, because that would be heresy, since you think like Calvin more than like Scripture. And since you only believe Calvin for excuse to sin, which is not excused by God, then you reject the truth that warns you not to do what you like to think: being unconditionally eternally secure in your salvation, with sins and trespasses ongoing unto death.
The persons were doing exactly what God predestinated them to do.
Sinners are indeed robotic slaves to their sins, but not preprogrammed by God before conception. Only programmed by ministers of corruption, like Calvin: you are doing exactly what your christ Calvin predestinated you to do, not Jesus Christ the true God.
They have NOTHING to do with their salvation...
Then their salvation has nothing to do with their souls.
so your comments are mute.
When falling on deaf ears, certainly, thus condemning yourself by your own words:
And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
OSAS will not allow the truth of being washed clean of their sins, because they
don't want to be healed of them by the blood of the Lamb, but rather only
partially healed, with the daubing of the blood of a bull or goat.
OSAS is right at home with the OT relationship of carnal minded men with God. Too bad they have come too late to be OT sinners.
Now all men are commanded everywhere to repent, because there is no winking upon sin by God anymore, since the NT blood of Jesus wash shed for
all sins on the cross.
