Yes!!! Believe God's Word!! Jesus Christ Will Return To This Earth In A Physical Body.

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GISMYS_7

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Yes!!! Believe God's Word!! Jesus Christ Will Return To This Earth In A Physical Body, And Take A Physical Throne In Jerusalem, Starting A 1000 Year Millennial Kingdom. And they will see Him who the pierced!!
The very physical Jesus==
Zechariah 12:10
"I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn.
Revelation 1:7
Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him--even those who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. So shall it be! Amen.
 

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A Physical Spiritual Body. Not a Flesh body. He returns in the same person he was. We will also be changed in the twinkling of an eye.
 

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Jesus established that he came to the earth as a man of flesh and blood only once, telling his eleven faithful apostles: "In a little while the world will see me no more".(John 14:19) And the apostle Paul wrote concerning Jesus Christ: "For Christ did not enter into the holy place made with hands.......but into heaven itself, so that he now appears before God on our behalf. This was not done to offer himself often, as when the high priest enters into the holy place from year to year with blood not his own. Otherwise, he would have to suffer often from the founding of the world. But now he (Jesus) has manifested himself once for all time at the conclusion of the (Jewish) system of things (that ended in 70 C.E.) to do away with sin through the sacrifice of himself ".(Heb 9:24-26)

if Jesus were to take on a fleshly body again, this would invalidate his sacrifice he gave as the Messiah when he was on the earth (from the fall of 29 C.E. to Nisan 14, 33 C.E.). Paul now says that "the Christ was offered once for all time to bear the sins of many; and the second time he appears (or discerned by his genuine disciples) it will be apart from sin, and he will be seen (spiritually or by discernment) by those earnestly looking for him for their salvation".(Heb 9:28)

Just as Jesus installation as king of God's Kingdom in 1914 was not seen by human eyes (Dan 7:13, 14, in which the words "the clouds of heaven" denote invisibility), but was discerned by his genuine disciples, so likewise Jesus "second time he appears" will also be grasped only by his true disciples.

Revelation 1:7 says: "Look ! He is coming with the clouds (denoting being invisible to human eyes), and every eye will see him (or discerned through the cataclysmic events now happening that they are doomed to destruction (see Luke 21:25) or that their salvation is at hand, see Luke 21:28), and those who pierced him (those who are his enemies, symbolically having pierced him); and all the tribes of the earth (or the political nations and their supporters) will beat themselves in grief because of him".

(see Matt 24:30, whereby "all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man (discerning Jesus as a spirit, not as a human) coming on the clouds of heaven (or invisible, unseen to humans, see also Ex 19:9) with power and great glory" following "the (symbolic) sun (being) darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken", Matt 24:29, meaning governments and seemingly stable institutions that people have looked to direction and support will fail at this time (compare Isa 34:4), when Armageddon begins (Rev 16:14, 16), causing complete chaos to reign for the world, but rejoicing for Jesus true disciples; see Luke 21:28 and Rev 6:12-17)
 

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He wasn't a physical flesh man when He left..He was in a resurrected body..
one that could appear in the middle of a room.
 
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He wasn't a physical flesh man when He left..He was in a resurrected body..
one that could appear in the middle of a room.

you might want to rethink that bygrace:


Luk 24:37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. 38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet. 41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? 42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. 43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

also at the very resurrection:

Joh 20:16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.


how could she touch Him to any effect with her flesh unless He was in the physical presence, the flesh or body that was raised?

when He finally left the apostles at the Mt. of Olives He disappeared into the cloud, also one must remember the Lord came to Abraham on His way to see the conditions in Sodom and ate with Abraham, that requires flesh. also why is it mentioned by John that no one dare ask the Lord if it was Him or not, when He appeared on the beach when they were fishing?
 
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@DPMartin thanks for that...
I will for sure ponder these things. As you can tell from my mixed signals...I flip flop on this one...I don't have either " locked down" 100% .
One day I am convinced one way. Then the other.
So , of interest...which one are you expecting.??
." long hair and sandals", or "Golden girdle, hair white as wool ,eyes like flaming fire, feet as fine brass..?"
Do you believe He revealed Himself was Melchizedek? I do.
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So , of interest...which one are you expecting.??
." long hair and sandals", or "Golden girdle, hair white as wool ,eyes like flaming fire, feet as fine brass..?"

This is what people are expecting to see when Christ returns. Someone who resembles that image that we're all familiar with. Right down to the long hair and neatly trimmed beard. The devil knows this too, so when the Antichrist is revealed, what do you suppose his physical appearance will be?


Matthew 24
24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.



A counterfeit Jesus with his counterfeit disciples.

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This is what people are expecting to see when Christ returns. Someone who resembles that image that we're all familiar with. Right down to the long hair and neatly trimmed beard. The devil knows this too, so when the Antichrist is revealed, what do you suppose his physical appearance will be?


Matthew 24
24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.



A counterfeit Jesus with his counterfeit disciples.

o

He just might have long hair just like his army of "locusts" that follow him will.

(Revelation 9:7-8) "And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. {8} And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions."[/b]
 

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He just might have long hair just like his army of "locusts" that follow him will.
When I saw Him, He looked different than the few religious statues, paintings and photos I had seen of Him at that stage....I was 30 years old at the time, but when our eyes met, I KNEW instantly, who He was/is and that HE KNEW absolutely ALL there was to know about me....Don't ask me, how He did that, I have no clue.........Receive it or don't, won't make any difference to your salvation......Be He ever Praised !!! Pia :)
 
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When I saw Him, He looked different than the few religious statues, paintings and photos I had seen of Him at that stage....I was 30 years old at the time, but when our eyes met, I KNEW instantly, who He was/is and that HE KNEW absolutely ALL there was to know about me....Don't ask me, how He did that, I have no clue.........Receive it or don't, won't make any difference to your salvation......Be He ever Praised !!! Pia :)

Well, if some guy comes on the scene with all power of lying signs and wonders looking like the "Jesus" the world depicts him to be, then it certainly will make a difference. Images can be very powerful tools of manipulation, that's why Hollywood is Satan's favorite playground. He'll deceive the very elect if possible, which I personally believe it is.
 
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Well, if some guy comes on the scene with all power of lying signs and wonders looking like the "Jesus" the world depicts him to be, then it certainly will make a difference. Images can be very powerful tools of manipulation, that's why Hollywood is Satan's favorite playground. He'll deceive the very elect if possible, which I personally believe it is.

Absolutely. That's why it's mentioned several times in the Word that no one has ever seen God.

In Romans Paul mentions an image of Jesus. "Made in the image of corruptible man".

In 1 Corinthians Paul makes reference to the length of Jesus' hair. "Anyone praying or prophesying with their head covered dishonors his head".

In 1 john we are told that the physical appearance of Jesus is unknown. "It has not yet been revealed what we shall be......we shall be like Him.....we shall see Him as He is".


The bible doesn't tell us what Jesus looked like, but it tells us what He doesn't like. I think that's pretty slick.

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He'll deceive the very elect if possible, which I personally believe it is
Not a chance........It would NEVER be allowed, this is why it clearly states "IF it were possible."..........No way, no how, God is letting that happen to anyone who is ALREADY His...........He has ALL the power though Christ, who defeated both the flesh, and the darkness, the enemy and even death, to prevent that now !
 
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Absolutely. That's why it's mentioned several times in the Word that no one has ever seen God.

In Romans Paul mentions an image of Jesus. "Made in the image of corruptible man".

In 1 Corinthians Paul makes reference to the length of Jesus' hair. "Anyone praying or prophesying with their head covered dishonors his head".

In 1 john we are told that the physical appearance of Jesus is unknown. "It has not yet been revealed what we shall be......we shall be like Him.....we shall see Him as He is".


The bible doesn't tell us what Jesus looked like, but it tells us what He doesn't like. I think that's pretty slick.

o

Telling us what he doesn't look like could be God's indirect way in telling us what the beast from the pit will look like. If this be the case, then yes, it is very slick. I don't see a real purpose in not giving a detailed description of Christs appearance beyond that.

Not a chance........It would NEVER be allowed, this is why it clearly states "IF it were possible."..........No way, no how, God is letting that happen to anyone who is ALREADY His...........He has ALL the power though Christ, who defeated both the flesh, and the darkness, the enemy and even death, to prevent that now !

Oh it will be allowed, it just says that when it happens, it will deceive the elect if possible, which to me means not entirely impossible. The easiest to deceive are those who believe that they can't be deceived. Its not just Apollyon's appearance that I'm really concerned about, we are a long way away from that happening in my estimate of prophecy. As of right now, I'm concerned about the strong delusion that will set up the world to "believe a lie" that will come before he even appears. Scripture wasn't splitting hairs as to who and who won't believe it. How susceptible you are to deception depends on how well studied you are to show yourself approved vs how "in the world" you really are. You can't call yourself a "watchman" if you are steeped in the latter like many who claim to be believers. There are lots of 'believers' that are very worldly and wouldn't know a deception, a clever lie, or a false prophet for that matter even if he sucker punched their mother square in the uterus. Most of them have hardly even opened up a Bible to read for themselves.
 

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. You can't call yourself a "watchman" if you are steeped
I have called myself no such thing, nor would I..........I KNOW a handful of things, I got to ask, and thus far, 33 years later, not ONE has been shown to me as being false.......Why? Did you want a blow by blow description of Him? To what end? what does it matter? It what He says and does which matter........He made me believe that God was actually really true and real ( had been raised in an atheist household)......If that was the devil, that's a neat trick, to make ME believe, what he is trying to get everyone else to dis-believe........give it some thought :) Pia
 
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I have called myself no such thing, nor would I..........I KNOW a handful of things, I got to ask, and thus far, 33 years later, not ONE has been shown to me as being false.......Why? Did you want a blow by blow description of Him? To what end? what does it matter? It what He says and does which matter........He made me believe that God was actually really true and real ( had been raised in an atheist household)......If that was the devil, that's a neat trick, to make ME believe, what he is trying to get everyone else to dis-believe........give it some thought :) Pia

I don't necessarily care what he looked like, what the word has to say about it is all I need when it comes down to it. If the word isn't enough, and you don't have the faith to trust in it alone that you have to have an epiphany, then you are definitely open to suggestion. You're epiphany is all nice and fine, but I really don't need it. But just out of curiosity, your experience might acually mean something to someone if you bothered describing it in detail, and yes, that means Christ's appearence as you saw him.
 

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I don't necessarily care what he looked like, what the word has to say about it is all I need when it comes down to it. If the word isn't enough, and you don't have the faith to trust in it alone that you have to have an epiphany, then you are definitely open to suggestion. You're epiphany is all nice and fine, but I really don't need it. But just out of curiosity, your experience might acually mean something to someone if you bothered describing it in detail, and yes, that means Christ's appearence as you saw him.
Doesn't seem to do squat,among religious people, proving what Jesus quoted father Abraham saying, to the rich man :" Even if they see one risen from the dead, they will by no means believe." this I have found to be a true statement......
 

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hat the word has to say about it is all I need when it comes down to it
It is what the bible says, it is not the word of God. You really should look at where that book came from. Which version do you read which version of God do you worship?? The bible is not God, it is not Equal to God nor Jesus, neither does it replace them, but to many it is an Idol that replaces God.