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MatthewG

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Luke 9:49-50

We told him to stop, the disciple John told Jesus.

Even though I personally do not believe demons are running around anymore due to the victory of Christ Jesus over all of his enemies and things in heaven, in the earth, even under the earth.

There are people who are allowed to freely choose to teach as they are lead without having to worry about the judgement of others, and Jesus is the defense on this.

He told John and the disciples do not stop him, for anyone who is not against us is for us.

This is an amazing testimony from Jesus himself, though people may have difference in their theology from others and understanding in which is hopefully lead by the Holy Spirit, people can take what one has to share in consideration or rejection, this is good news.

Not everyone of the body has all the knowledge of the Bible despite what they may believe that includes me, even though someone may share something that is from there heart lead by the spirit and learned from the scriptures someone out here in this world is going to do just like John did, and tell them to stop.

The only thing we can ultimately agree on is the death, burial and resurrection. If you believe that the Lord Jesus Christ was raised from the dead in your heart, who has the right to judge you? Where do they get the authority?

The truth is the only authority that can make you stand or make you sit down and think about what you have done is God himself.

A good reminder, and insightful one, for anyone who believes in Jesus and his life, death, burial and resurrection and has experienced new life through him by the Father in heaven, will not so be quick to call Jesus accursed.
 

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I personally people are led by their own desires and lust, if those who don’t want to abide in Christ in which is a reflection of love which was expressed through Jesus himself, God will allow them to go that way.

You can see this in Romans 1:1-24
Also you can see this in James 1, Stunnedbygrace, if you are someone who believes that demons are still running around I respect you either way as a sister.

I truly believe in the totality and finished work of Christ. Hopefully you took time to read the whole post, God bless you and all on the forums.
 

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..personally do not believe demons are running around anymore due to the victory of Christ Jesus over all of his enemies and things in heaven, in the earth, even under the earth..

I'm sure satan wants you to believe that so you'll drop your guard against him..:)
Demons probe and sift our minds looking for flaws and weaknesses that they can pick up on to inflame and make us unhappy.
Satan even tried it with Peter, Jesus told him "Satan wanted to sift you" (Luke 22:31) so he'll certainly try it with us.
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"We're being probed captain, source and origin unknown"
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Teachers are under a more strict judgment:
James 3:1 NKJV
My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.
 

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I'm sure satan wants you to believe that so you'll drop your guard against him..:)
Demons probe and sift our minds looking for flaws and weaknesses that they can pick up on to inflame and make us unhappy.
Satan even tried it with Peter, Jesus told him "Satan wanted to sift you" (Luke 22:31) so he'll certainly try it with us.
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"We're being probed captain, source and origin unknown"
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Thankfully I do believe Satan and been defeated, the Bible talks about it being so, but most don’t believe it. They like to have someone around they can blame for others doing what they do, I don’t personally understand this. I trust what John wrote in the Revelation, and do not see the need to fear Satan, if anyone should be feared it is what I am personally able and capable of doing by my own lust and desires if focused on hear on earth.

From my background I have a long history of hate and disdain for God, Jesus and even my own family growing up, this was because of the dark earthly spiritual forces such as “spirit of greed”, “spirit of hate”, “spirit of lust” that had abided in me growing up from my teenage years, since focusing on God and my relationship with him at the age of 26 my hatred has went down to almost non-existence though it can arise, I do hate peoples approach to things but that is due to my inherit earthly nature of critical analysis, I don’t hate anyone anymore.

I love God and love the Lord Jesus Christ and love others, even if they don’t totally trust in the total victory of Christ which is founded in Revelation.

I don’t believe Satan or his demons are running around and probably will never again since coming to accept the victory of Christ over all things, Dropship.

Hope you understand, and can respect this.
 
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Also I have always enjoyed the adventures of the three old men on the spaceship, @Dropship watched all the original series before and it is a very neat little show, I miss the hum of the ship.
 

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There are people who are allowed to freely choose to teach as they are lead without having to worry about the judgement of others, and Jesus is the defense on this.

He told John and the disciples do not stop him, for anyone who is not against us is for us.

Mark 9:38-41 ESV
Anyone Not Against Us Is for Us
38 John said to him, “Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he was not following us.” 39 But Jesus said, “Do not stop him, for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able soon afterward to speak evil of me. 40 For the one who is not against us is for us. 41 For truly, I say to you, whoever gives you a cup of water to drink because you belong to Christ will by no means lose his reward.​

Thank you for reminding us of this.
 
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Peter declared this decades after Jesus Ascension below :

1 Peter 5:8
Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour

And James says this :

James 4:7
Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Why resist something that doesn’t exist. ?

This proves your view on satan is false .

hope this helps !!!
 

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Luke 9:49-50

We told him to stop, the disciple John told Jesus.

Even though I personally do not believe demons are running around anymore due to the victory of Christ Jesus over all of his enemies and things in heaven, in the earth, even under the earth.

There are people who are allowed to freely choose to teach as they are lead without having to worry about the judgement of others, and Jesus is the defense on this.

He told John and the disciples do not stop him, for anyone who is not against us is for us.

This is an amazing testimony from Jesus himself, though people may have difference in their theology from others and understanding in which is hopefully lead by the Holy Spirit, people can take what one has to share in consideration or rejection, this is good news.

Not everyone of the body has all the knowledge of the Bible despite what they may believe that includes me, even though someone may share something that is from there heart lead by the spirit and learned from the scriptures someone out here in this world is going to do just like John did, and tell them to stop.

The only thing we can ultimately agree on is the death, burial and resurrection. If you believe that the Lord Jesus Christ was raised from the dead in your heart, who has the right to judge you? Where do they get the authority?

The truth is the only authority that can make you stand or make you sit down and think about what you have done is God himself.

A good reminder, and insightful one, for anyone who believes in Jesus and his life, death, burial and resurrection and has experienced new life through him by the Father in heaven, will not so be quick to call Jesus accursed.

Rev 12:7-9, 12
 
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Okay. Thank you for sharing some scripture and verses.
 

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Even though I personally do not believe demons are running around anymore due to the victory of Christ Jesus over all of his enemies and things in heaven, in the earth, even under the earth.

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How do you reconcile the passages below with what you said above ?

Can you see the contradiction ?

Peter declared this decades after Jesus Ascension below :

1 Peter 5:8
Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour

And James says this :

James 4:7
Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Why resist something that doesn’t exist. ?

This proves your view on satan is false .

hope this helps !!!
 

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It's been said that Satan's greatest victory has been convincing people he doesn't exist.
Better keep your fingers crossed that he doesn't have you for breakfast..;)
Amen I guess Peter and Paul lied about him being like a roaring lion, and to resist the devil and that he is the present god of this world as per 2 Corinthians 4:4
 

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It's been said that Satan's greatest victory has been convincing people he doesn't exist.
Better keep your fingers crossed that he doesn't have you for breakfast..;)

I didn’t say he didn’t ever exist, he has been done away with according to scriptures.

However whatever people believe is up to them and if they are desperate enough to learn the truth, it is founded in the Bible.
 

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I didn’t say he didn’t ever exist, he has been done away with according to scriptures.

However whatever people believe is up to them and if they are desperate enough to learn the truth, it is founded in the Bible.
No he has not been done away with that is the false teachings of men/ heretics/false teachers etc......

I have provided scriptures that clearly refutes your ideas on satan.
 

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Demons influence people today. Just read the news.

People are influenced by their soul (mind/will/emotions), and we do wrestle with the dark forces of the heavenly places such as “spirit of greed”, “spirit of lust”, “spirit of malice”, “spirit of deception (to make lies)”, it is similar to that of “school spirit”, or in the “spirit of fighting”.

We are inflicted and enticed by our own selves, do you remember the scripture if God is for us, who can be against us? The answer is you, yourself because you are your own worst enemy.

Everyone here has thoughts, and you are the one who knows them, no one else. I remember always lying to my mother to get my way.

Satan didn’t influence me to lie to my mother, my enticements and lust to get my way, influenced by dark motives or powers or forces that effected my soul (mind/will/emotions).


Ephesians 6:12
English Standard Version

12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.


This above says nothing about wrestling with Satan.

“God blesses those who patiently endure testing and temptation. Afterward they will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him. And remember, when you are being tempted, do not say, “God is tempting me.” God is never tempted to do wrong, and he never tempts anyone else. Temptation comes from our own desires, which entice us and drag us away. These desires give birth to sinful actions. And when sin is allowed to grow, it gives birth to death.”
‭‭James‬ ‭1:12-15‬ ‭NLT‬‬

This also above doesn’t deal with wrestling with Satan.
 
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This is also what the John stated about the defeat of the devil.


“When the thousand years come to an end, Satan will be let out of his prison. He will go out to deceive the nations—called Gog and Magog—in every corner of the earth. He will gather them together for battle—a mighty army, as numberless as sand along the seashore. And I saw them as they went up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded God’s people and the beloved city. But fire from heaven came down on the attacking armies and consumed them. Then the devil, who had deceived them, was thrown into the fiery lake of burning sulfur, joining the beast and the false prophet. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:7-10‬ ‭NLT‬‬


“And I saw a great white throne and the one sitting on it. The earth and sky fled from his presence, but they found no place to hide. I saw the dead, both great and small, standing before God’s throne. And the books were opened, including the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to what they had done, as recorded in the books. The sea gave up its dead, and death and the grave gave up their dead. And all were judged according to their deeds. Then death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire. This lake of fire is the second death. And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:11-15‬ ‭NLT‬‬

Whatever ever you believe is up to you, normally a lot of people find the devil interesting, and things like that and still believe he on the loose.

I personally don’t anymore he was around but not anymore since his defeat.